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    Papal Secrets...
    What You Didn't Know About
    The Popes Of Rome




    By Mark Owen
    Las Vegas Tribune | April 14, 2005


    On the evening of Saturday April 2, 2005, after receiving the Rite of Extreme Unction, Pope John Paul II passed away. At this time his chamberlain would have gone to the papal hospital bed and asked the Bishop of Rome a question, "Are you dead?" There would be no reply from the Pope. The chamberlain would then pick up a silver hammer and strike the Pope on the head and repeat his question, "Are you dead?" Again there would be no reply. The chamberlain would then thrice call out the Pope's baptismal name. He would then declare the Pope to be dead.

    This is the way the Church has determined papal deaths for centuries. This is the way of the world's oldest monarchy.

    Since 1763 the august Almanach de Gotha has been the ultimate authority on the royal houses of Europe. Listed under 'Reigning Sovereign Houses' is the Holy See. Therein is stated, "the incumbent of the Holy See is considered by Christian sovereign families as the 'Father of the Family of Kings,' [and] his Holiness represents the OLDEST MONARCHY on earth"

    The triple sovereignty of the Pope-Person, Holy See & Vatican City--is distinct in fact and in law. Internationally, he is not subject to any authority on earth. His Cardinals are considered to be Princes of the Church and peers of the sons of reigning monarchs. Each diocese is considered to be a royal fiefdom. The word 'diocese' originally signified an administrative unit devised by the Emperor Diocletian, a tyrant noted for his persecution of Christians.

    Following are brief sketches of some of the more interesting holders of the title 'Vicar of Christ' (it should be noted that the Latin equivalent of the Greek 'anti' is 'vicarius,' from whence is derived the word 'vicar').

    Without a doubt, there was one Pope who was completely mad. In 896 Stephen VII set in motion the trial of his rival, the late Pope Formosus who had been dead for 9 months at the time. Formosus' corpse was dragged from its tomb and arrayed on a throne in the council chamber. The corpse, wrapped in a hair shirt, was provided with council, who wisely remained silent while Pope Stephen raved and screamed at it. The crime of Formosus was that he had crowned emperor one of the numerous illegitimate heirs of Charlemagne after first having performed the same office for a candidate favored by Stephen. After Stephen's rant, the corpse was stripped of its clothes and its fingers were chopped off. It was then dragged through the palace and hurled from a balcony to a howling mob below who threw it into the Tiber. The body was later rescued by people sympathetic to Formosus and given a quiet burial. Stephen was strangled to death a few years later.

    In 964 Pope Benedict V raped a young girl and absconded to Constantinople with the papal treasury only to reappear when the money ran out. Church historian Gerbert called Benedict 'the most iniquitous of all the monsters of ungodliness.' The pontiff was eventually slain by a jealous husband. His corpse, bearing a hundred dagger wounds, was dragged through the streets before being tossed into a cesspit.

    In October 1032 the papal miter was purchased for the 11-year old Benedict IX. Upon reaching his 14th year, a chronicler wrote that Benedict had already surpassed in wantonness and profligacy all who had preceded him. He often had to leave Rome in a hurry.

    Gregory VII was a master forger, surpassing even the great fraud known as the 'Donation of Constantine,' the document that created the Papal States. Gregory had an entire school of forgers turning out document after document bearing the papal seal of approval. These documents were later systematized in the mid-1100s in Bologna by Gratian, a Benedictine monk. He called his work the Decretum, or Code of Canon Law. It was peppered throughout with several centuries of forgeries along with Gratian's own fictional additions. Gregory also formalized the celibacy doctrine in order to curtail the many gifts of church lands being given away to all of the illegitimate children of priests and bishops. According to Catholic historian Peter de Rosa in his book Vicars of Christ:

    "Popes had mistresses as young as fifteen years of age, were guilty of incest and sexual perversions of every sort, had innumerable children, were murdered in the very act of adultery. In the old Catholic phrase, why be holier than the Pope?"

    Another interesting figure was Alexander VI (formerly Rodrigo Borgia). He reigned from 1492-1503. Alexander committed his first murder at the age of 12. Upon assuming the Papal miter he cried, "I am Pope, Vicar of Christ!" In his Decline and Fall Gibbon referred to Alexander as the Tiberius of Rome. Like his predecessor Innocent VIII, Alexander sired many children, baptized them personally and officiated at their weddings in the Vatican. He had ten known illegitimate children (including the notorious Cesare and Lucrezia), by his favorite mistress Vannoza Catanei. When she faded, Borgia took the 15-year old Giulia Farnese. Farnese obtained a Cardinal's red hat for her brother who later became Paul III.

    Alexander was followed by Julius II who purchased the papacy with his own private fortune. He didn't even pretend to be a Christian. A notorious womanizer who sired any number of bastards, Julius was so eaten away with syphilis that he couldn't even expose his foot to be kissed.

    Under Leo X (1513-21)--who cursed and excommunicated Martin Luther-specific prices were enumerated by the Roman Chancery for every imaginable crime. For instance, a deacon accused of murder could be absolved for 20 crowns. Once pardoned, he could not be prosecuted by civil authorities. Two hundred years earlier, John XXII had done much the same thing, setting prices for crimes ranging from incest to sodomy.

    During his pontificate Innocent VIII (1484-92) granted a 20-year Butterbriefe indulgence to persons who met his price. For a sum, one could purchase the privilege of eating favorite dishes during Lent.

    Leo X (Giovanni de Medici) commissioned the Dominican friar Tetzel to sell indulgences which released one from purgatory. Tetzel's famous refrain went, "As soon as the coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs!"

    Pope Sixtus IV charged Roman brothels a Church tax. According to historian Will Durant, in 1490 there were 6800 registered prostitutes in Rome. Pius II declared that Rome was the only city run by bastards (the sons of Popes and Cardinals).

    The iniquity of the various Popes has filled many books, and one has to wonder if the Church has been cursed from the very beginning. After all, Constantine leveled the Stadium of Caligula and the Temple of Apollo and used the stones and marble from them to erect the original basilica of Peter. Could he have been engaging in an act of sympathetic magic, as some have alleged? Constantine's choice of building materials might account for the observation made in Rome by Martin Luther centuries later who declared, "If there is a Hell, Rome is built over it. It is an abyss from whence issues every kind of sin."

    Very brief mention should be made of the staggering scale of the Inquisition. In his History of the Inquisition, Canon Llorente, who was Secretary of the Inquistion in Madrid from 1790-92 estimated the number of condemned in Spain alone to have exceeded 3 million, with 300,000 burned at the stake. A Catholic historian comments on the events leading up to the suppression of the Spanish Inquisition:

    "When Napoleon conquered Spain in 1808, a Polish officer in his army, Col. Lemanouski, reported that the Dominicans (in charge of the Inquisition) blockaded themselves in their monastery in Madrid. When Lemanouski's troops forced an entry, the inquisitors denied the existence of any torture chambers. The soldiers searched the monastery and discovered them under the floors. The chambers were full of prisoners, all naked, many insane. The French troops, used to cruelty and blood, could not stomach the sight. They emptied the torture chambers, laid gunpowder to the monastery and blew the place up"

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    Rome was truly drunk with the Martyr's blood.

    And the Papacy isn't fairing much better in our modern age, and would appear to be in serious decline, if not in outright defeat.

    In November 2000 Italian headlines screamed, "Devil Defeats Pope!" Il Messaggero reported that the Pope had been confronted by a teenage girl in the Vatican who screamed insults in a cavernous voice during an audience. John Paul attempted an exorcism but his ministrations had no effect on the girl.

    Devils in the Vatican would come as no surprise to Msgr. Luigi Marinelli. His book Gone With the Wind at the Vatican fairly flew off the shelves in Italy, revealing as it did stories of money-laundering prelates, sex abuse and Satanic rituals performed within the walls of the Holy See.

    Marinelli's comments echo those of the late Fr. Malachi Martin, a former Jesuit and exorcist, whose 1990 book The Keys of this Blood contains the following disturbing information:

    "Most frighteningly for John Paul, he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishop's chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the 'superforce.' Rumors, difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Paul VIs reign in 1963. Indeed, Paul had alluded somberly to "the smoke of Satan which has entered the Sanctuary"-an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony performed by Satanists in the Vatican. Besides, the incidence of Satanic pedophilia-rites and practices-was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin in Italy and South Carolina in the United States. The cultic acts of Satanic pedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel's rites."

    Adding fuel to the fire is ex-Jesuit Robert Kaiser with his recent book Clerical Error. Kaiser states that Malachi Martin was something of a confabulist who lived for 30 years as a kept man under the roof of Manhattan socialite Kakia Livanos, the ex-wife of Greek shipping magnate Stavros Niarchos. Kaiser goes on to say that Martin also stole his wife Mary from him at one point in the 60s when all three were quartered in Rome. Kaiser also surmises that Martin may have been a paid lobbyist for the American Jewish Committee.

    In his new book Glimpses of the Devil, psychiatrist M. Scott Peck weighs in with many interesting comments on possession and exorcism. He also declares Martin to have been most scrupulous in his histories of the exorcisms recounted in Hostage to the Devil. However, according to Peck, although a formidable scholar and gifted polyglot (17 languages), Martin could by turns be a 'pathological liar' and a 'leprechaun.' Needless to say, the jury is still out on the legacy of Malachi Martin.

    On the other hand, the verdict on the pederasty that is endemic to the Roman priesthood, is in. The Church paid out more than $1 billion in claims to victims of sex abuse by clergy in the 1990s alone. And the American branch offers a very disturbing treatment method to offenders. One startling example should suffice:

    Fr. Jay Mullin was accused of molesting a boy more than 20 years ago in Boston. Then Cardinal Bernard Law commanded Mullin to be evaluated at St. Luke's Institute. The Institute is a Washington clinic that was profiled in a Boston Globe article of February 24, 2002:

    "Mullin was flown south in 1992 to a clinic outside Washington, D.C. The church-run clinic had a huge collection of child pornography of varying degrees, which ranged from soft porn to hardcore S&M images, all featuring pre-teen boys and girls"

    This would have to rate as the most devilish form of aversion therapy ever known. It would be akin to treating alcoholics with copious quantities of vintage wine or bombarding junkies with free packets of China White heroin. Truly degenerate and depraved lunatics were running the asylum known as St. Lukes.

    Notwithstanding the scandal and shock of the aforementioned, Rome carries on quietly with her program of world dominion. They lead the competition to establish the first one-world system that has ever existed. Their ultimate goal is global religious syncretism, and to eventually wield control and authority over every individual on earth. The human solidarity goals of the Roman Church are identical to the goals and objectives of the United Nations. This is why they are such an perfect fit. Rome only gives the appearance of objecting to the UN agenda. At the 1996 World Food Summit in Rome Cardinal Angelo Sodana pledged the Holy See's support for the UNs humanistic 'Programs of Action.'

    Rome also has designs on Jerusalem.

    For 46 years after Israel's rebirth the Vatican refused to acknowledge Israel's right to exist. But Rome wants to exert premier influence over Jerusalem, which will one day function as the capital of her World Church.

    In a 1993 letter to the Pope, Shimon Peres promised to internationalize Jerusalem, granting the UN political control of the Old City and the Vatican hegemony over the holy sites within. This was confirmed by the Italian newspaper La Stampa. In March 1995 the Israeli radio station Arutz Sheva was leaked a cable from the Israeli Embassy in Rome, confirming the hand over of Jerusalem to the Vatican.

    The future Pope will establish his throne one day within the walls of the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. It is from here that he will rule his World Church.

    And this day may not be as far off as many believe. The cornerstones for the Third Temple have already been quarried by the Jewish group known as the Temple Mount Faithful. They are extremely well financed and organized. They have also produced priestly vestments in accordance with scriptural outlines and are presently attempting to breed a perfect red heifer in anticipation of the coming dedication ceremonies. Obviously, Rome and the Temple Mount Faithful are headed for a showdown.

    In a letter sent to the Vatican in January 2004, the TMF demanded that Pope John Paul return the Temple Menorah and other vessels and treasures removed in 70AD by Titus and taken to Rome, where they are presently held within the Secret Vatican Archives.

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    Mark Owen is a freelance writer living in Toronto, Canada.
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    Some things are best kept secret. zg

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    Lawsuit Reveals Late Pope Had Gambling Habit

    by Con Chapman

    ROME, Italy. A lawsuit filed in an Italian civil court yesterday made public what Las Vegas insiders have been whispering for decades--Pope John Paul II had a serious gambling habit, often betting large sums on the outcome of college games.

    "He was a big player, all right," said Morris "Mo" Epstein, director of security for Harold's Casino, an out-of-the-way gaming operation off the Las Vegas "Strip" where the pontiff could play in relative privacy. "He'd come in with his big hat on and do that thing with the hand--not really waving, just kinda holding two fingers up. He couldn't play blackjack because of it--the dealer'd be hitting him all the time."

    The Pope's preference, according to Epstein, was college basketball. "Anything with a Catholic school. Notre Dame, Boston College, Georgetown, even the Golden Griffins of Canisius fer Chrissake." Canisius College is a Jesuit institution in Buffalo, New York.

    The suit alleges that the Pope failed to honor a marker he laid down for a wager on the NCAA's 2004 March Madness basketball tournament. "He had Gonzaga going all the way," said the Pope's close friend and confidante Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria. "I tell him, 'There are many bumps on the Road to the Final Four--do not put everything on the 'Zags just because they are a Catholic school'."

    Arinze picked the University of Connecticut Huskies, the ultimate national champion that year, on his "sentimental" bracket sheet because they were led by his young countryman Emeka Okafor. "I won the Vatican pool," he recalled happily, "and received ten thousand lira." At current exchange rates, a thousand Italian lira is worth $.63 in US currency.

    The Pope's wagers were so large they would often move the "line" on a particular game, which worsened the odds that were offered him. "He thought he had divine insight," said Epstein, shaking his head. "They all do."

    Some Catholic schools such as Boston College have had gambling scandals in the past, while others, particularly Notre Dame, have escaped any hint of point shaving. "It's not a problem for us," said a Fighting Irish alumnus who preferred to remain anonymous. "We can afford to pay our players more."

    Copyright 2006, Con Chapman

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    The total population of Spain in the 1700s was under 2,000,000.
    Be pretty difficult for the Inquistion to have killed 3,000,000.
    When people who claim to be historians make such blatant errors,it casts doubts on the rest of their body of work.Obviously,this man was tooting his own horn,going for an impressive body-count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadroch View Post
    The total population of Spain in the 1700s was under 2,000,000.
    Be pretty difficult for the Inquistion to have killed 3,000,000.
    When people who claim to be historians make such blatant errors,it casts doubts on the rest of their body of work.Obviously,this man was tooting his own horn,going for an impressive body-count.
    This could be researched BUT the article says "3M condemmed, 300K killed (burned at stake)" so its not a gem of clarity. zg

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    I thought the first Pope was the last Caesar? zg
    St Peter was not the first Pope and never went to Rome, claims Channel 4

    By Jonathan Wynne-Jones,
    Religious Affairs Correspondent
    Last Updated: 1:31am GMT 24/03/2008


    St Peter's journey to Rome led to the spread of Christianity in the West and the foundation of Roman Catholicism, so the Church has always taught.

    But a new documentary will challenge the link as nothing more than a "conspiracy of faith". In it, prominent academics accuse the Vatican of misleading the world over the fate of the man regarded as Jesus Christ's closest disciple. In allegations likely to spark controversy, they accuse the Church of fabricating a connection with the apostle to validate giving ultimate power to the papacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadroch View Post
    The total population of Spain in the 1700s was under 2,000,000.
    Be pretty difficult for the Inquistion to have killed 3,000,000.
    When people who claim to be historians make such blatant errors,it casts doubts on the rest of their body of work.Obviously,this man was tooting his own horn,going for an impressive body-count.
    Sort of like the 6,000,000 Jews of Shoa number. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadroch View Post
    The total population of Spain in the 1700s was under 2,000,000.
    Be pretty difficult for the Inquistion to have killed 3,000,000.
    When people who claim to be historians make such blatant errors,it casts doubts on the rest of their body of work.Obviously,this man was tooting his own horn,going for an impressive body-count.
    The Catholic Inquisitions went on for 600 years. Killing of heretics went on for 600 years. The Vatican's own bean counter wrote his estimation of Inquisition deaths in Spain alone as 300,000, and it went on for long after he wrote that to Rome. The Vatican estimated the death toll at only 6000, of which they blamed "a few bad popes." (the vast majority of the killings are today, blamed - by the Vatican - on the secular authorities.) French philosopher Victor Hugo estimated Inquisition deaths at five million. Spread over 600 years, the average figure for that is quite believable.

    Torture was considered to be essential because the church felt duty-bound to identify from the lips of the victims themselves any deviance from sound doctrine. Presumably, the more excruciating the torture, the more likely that the truth could be wrung from reluctant lips. The inquisitors were determined that it was "better for a hundred innocent people to die than for one heretic to go free".


    "Heretics" were committed to the flames because the popes believed the Bible forbade Christians to shed blood. The victims of the Inquisition exceeded by hundreds of thousands the number of Christians and Jews who had suffered under pagan Roman emperors.J

    This wanton slaughter of innocent people was justified by Catholic theologians such as "Saint". Thomas Aquinas, who said, "If forgers and other malefactors are put to death by the secular power, there is much more reason for putting to death one convicted of heresy."
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    Does the new Pope believe in evolution?




    The answer is actually yes. And in fact, the Roman Catholic Church has recognized Darwinian evolution for the past 60 years. It openly rejects Intelligent Design and Young Earth Creationism saying that it "pretends to be a science."

    But the Church’s unique take on the theory, what it calls theistic evolution, still shows that Catholics have largely missed the point.

    Back in 1950, Pope Pius XII laid out his papal encyclical, “Humani Generis,” in which the Church’s official position on natural selection was laid out. The statement said that there's no intrinsic conflict between Christianity and evolution.

    The theory, as articulated by Charles Darwin in On the Origin of Species, has withstood scientific scrutiny since its publication in 1859 — and the Church does not dispute this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Does the new Pope believe in evolution?


    The answer is actually yes. And in fact, the Roman Catholic Church has recognized Darwinian evolution for the past 60 years. It openly rejects Intelligent Design and Young Earth Creationism saying that it "pretends to be a science."

    But the Church’s unique take on the theory, what it calls theistic evolution, still shows that Catholics have largely missed the point.

    You don't say?

    Theistic evolution holds that religious teachings about God are compatible with modern scientific understanding about biological evolution. Theistic evolution is not a scientific theory, but a range of views about how the science of evolution relates to religious beliefs. Supporters of theistic evolution generally try to harmonize evolutionary thought with the belief in God, rejecting the conflict thesis regarding the relationship between religion and science – that is, they hold that religious teachings about creation and scientific theories of evolution need not contradict each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Sort of like the 6,000,000 Jews of Shoa number. zg


    Excerpt from "Time Traveling with Science and the Saints"
    " At the close of the 15th century, when Pope Innocent VIII condemned Germans who had been accused of being possessed by Satan, he set in motion a witch hunt that would spread across Europe to England, Scotland and Ireland, and then to American shores. In Catholic countries, belief in witches became mandatory, and to dispute their existence carried the risk of being charged of heresy. Belief in werewolves was also fostered by the Inquisition; in 1484 the same Pope Innocent VIII ordered that cats belonging to witches must be burned along with their owners. Unfortunately, the atrocities committed by Protestants during the Witch Hunts and the inter-religious wars were every bit as inventive and savage as those devised by the Catholics.

    Guided by the church's "how-to" manual, the Malleus Maleficarum (The Witch Hammer) and using the excuse that torturing women suspects helped prepare the accused for the rigors of hell, Catholic and Protestant churchmen served up a reign of horror that tortured, maimed and murdered hundreds of thousands, including children as young as nine, using instruments of torture inscribed with "Glory be only to God."

    On discovering that lightly pricking various parts of the accused's skin always detected areas that felt no pain (areas that science has revealed we all possess) a productive and "infallible" method of detecting witches came into use. As with the Inquisition, to be accused was tantamount to being found guilty.

    The horrors of the Inquisition and the Witch hunts often became part of the public record. The Tariff for Torture, for example, which was published in Bonn on January, 1757, even listed a gruesomely detailed schedule of maximum fees to be paid to executioners so as to conserve the purse of the archbishop of Trinsic:

    For tearing apart and quartering by four horses - 526 Gold
    For beheading and burning - 526 Gold
    For beheading only - 252 Gold
    For beheading and tying the body on the wheel - 400 Gold
    For strangling and burning - 400 Gold


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    For cutting off a hand and beheading - 326 Gold
    For burning with a hot iron - 126 Gold
    For beheading and sticking the head on a pole - 326 Gold
    For beheading, tying on wheel, and mounting the head - 500 Gold
    For each squeezing with red-hot tongs - 26 Gold
    For cutting out tongue and burning wound - 500 Gold
    For nailing cut off tongue or hand to the gallows -126 Gold

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    Da Vinci fervently believed that someday humans would fly, writing passionately "There shall be wings! If the accomplishment be not for me, 'tis for some other. The spirit shall not die; and man... shall have wings..." For producing more than five thousand pages of sketches and notes, and arguing that the sun does not orbit the earth, Leonardo da Vinci is regarded by many as the first exemplar of the budding Renaissance.

    But in an era saturated with spirits and demons, Leonardo's genius and his habit of writing in reversed script, which could only be read with a mirror, eventually led to suspicions of collusion with Satan. Pope Leo X, on hearing the rumors, restricted da Vinci's work, so da Vinci moved to France, where, for the remainder of his life he served as the first painter and engineer to the king.

    Imagine what the world could have been * and might be like today if the glimmerings of enlightenment that were evident in Aristarchus, Archimedes, Hippocrates or da Vinci had been encouraged rather than displaced by the tidal wave of anti-science that Christianity unleashed upon the Western world, creating men like St. Gregory I, who, despite being one of the least ignorant popes, believed that a nun who had eaten a piece of lettuce without first making the sign of the cross had consumed a devil who was sitting on it, and that the demon, when commanded by a holy man to come forth had replied: 'How am I to blame? I was sitting on the lettuce, and this woman, not having made the sign of the cross, ate me along with it.'"

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