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    Here it is! The Mark of the Beast! (well, maybe)

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    So anyone have an educated guess as to when the world will end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adt_33 View Post
    Here it is! The Mark of the Beast! (well, maybe)

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    So anyone have an educated guess as to when the world will end?
    All signs point to 2012. But if you can find a line good enough to overcome the time value of money, make a HUGE bet on the OVER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottH View Post
    All signs point to 2012. But if you can find a line good enough to overcome the time value of money, make a HUGE bet on the OVER!
    Say YEA-YES! Amen Brother Scott! zg

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    Plans are Underway to Microchip every Newborn in U.S. and Europe...

    Regarding plans to microchip newborns, Dr. Kilde said the U.S. has been moving in this direction "in secrecy."

    She added that in Sweden, Prime Minister Olof Palme gave permission in 1973 to implant prisoners, and Data Inspection's ex-Director General Jan Freese revealed that nursing-home patients were implanted in the mid-1980s. The technology is revealed in the 1972:47 Swedish state report, Statens Officiella Utradninger

    Are you prepared to live in a world in which every newborn baby is micro-chipped? And finally are you ready to have your every move tracked, recorded and placed in Big Brother's data bank? According to the Finnish article, distributed to doctors and medical students, time is running out for changing the direction of military medicine and mind control technology, ensuring the future of human freedom.

    ...more - http://www.tldm.org/News4/MarkoftheBeast.htm
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    This will take a while to catch on, as few would willingly accept the chip, especially Christians. And it's already FDA-approved! I don't know much, but for a government that has no atheists in Congress, it's surprising that this would be so easily (and quietly) accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adt_33 View Post
    This will take a while to catch on, as few would willingly accept the chip, especially Christians. And it's already FDA-approved! I don't know much, but for a government that has no atheists in Congress, it's surprising that this would be so easily (and quietly) accepted.
    Have Christians Already Accepted
    The Mark Of The Beast?


    By Chuck Baldwin
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    Christians throughout church history have debated the nuances of Eschatology. These debates will doubtless last until Jesus Himself decides to end them. Until then, the theological battles extolling or condemning premillennialism or postmillennialism, pre-tribulation Rapture or post-tribulation Rapture, etc., will continue. To be sure, this column is not an attempt to resolve or even argue these interpretations of Scripture. Let every man be persuaded in his own heart. Personally, I don't think it's worth arguing about.

    Whether a Christian is premillennial or postmillennial, whether he or she believes in the pre-tribulation Rapture or not is immaterial to our responsibilities. We Christians have a duty to be the "salt" and "light" of society until Jesus returns--whenever that is. And, frankly, the time of His return is His business, not ours. If we would concentrate on those matters that truly belong to us, we would be much more effective. Arguing and battling between Christians over the nuances of Eschatology only serves to advance the cause of the Enemy. It is counterproductive and fruitless to anything worthwhile.
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    Regardless of how one interprets the Book of Revelation, I think most all believers will accept the Apostle John's warning that the spirit of antichrist is already in the world. (I John 2:18; 4:3) Can we not readily agree that anything that resembles antichrist is a form of antichrist?

    Accordingly, did not the German church have an obligation to resist Adolph Hitler? Of course they did. However, at the end of the day, out of over 14,000 pastors and church congregations in Germany at the time, only 800 properly discerned the evil Hitler for who he was and openly opposed him. The rest not only tolerated him, but openly praised him, promoted him, and punished anyone who failed to do the same.

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    See also -
    And -
    Monday, August 13th, 2007
    Bush Wants Microchipped Society

    The Bush administration tells us the main reason for warrantless wiretapping and searches is, warrantless searches and spying are necessary in order to keep us safe from the terrorist. They imply if we don’t have anything to hide it should not matter if they conduct warrantless searches and that no mater what political party happens to be in power, now or in the future, that this newly granted authority will not be misused. This same line of thinking is parroted mainly by the conservative, bootlicking pundits, bloggers and by what has become known as the graduates of the Joseph Goebbels School of Broadcasting and Propaganda on talk radio.

    The intelligence communities involvement in warrantless searches by intercepting and monitoring generated signals (energy) such as email, faxes, etc., has a long history that is steeped in ongoing fraud and conspiracy.

    Back in 1981 I was involved in a secret government black budget program to intercept and monitor (without a warrant) people’s thoughts. Basically what they were doing was they were intercepting and monitoring the signal (energy) that is generated by the brain, when a person has thoughts. That was documented to some degree through ABC News 20/20, when they stumbled onto their black budget project.
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    In official documents such as Air Force 2025, they admit they want a micro chipped society. The cutting edge of this technology now appears to have evolved toward smart dust devices that are tiny wireless microelectromechanical sensors (MEMS) that can detect everything from light to vibrations. Thanks to recent breakthroughs in silicon and fabrication techniques, these “motes” could eventually be the size of a grain of sand, though each would contain sensors, computing circuits, bidirectional wireless communications technology and a power supply. If their telling us about all that, what else aren’t they telling us about and hiding behind a cloak of national security?
    ...more - http://rinf.com/alt-news/surveillanc...-society/1012/
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    I'll give you an inside scoop as to what the mark of the beast is. It is given on the forehead and the hand, right? What it means is that there will arise a worldwide philosophy that will appear okay on the surface, but to subscribe to it will mean denying God. It could be putting the brotherhood of man above any one specific religion (i.e., above Christianity as do the Masons--don't forget, the NT is for Christians) or even above belief in God (I try to be inclusive), or it could be submitting to an economic system that also makes moral choices for you (like the EU requiring abortion as a social measure). Whatever it is, the meaning is that if a person gives his allegiance (his mind, and therefore the mark on his forehead) and works for its success (work equates to the mark on his hand), then he is marked (figuratively) for destruction. It's all symbolic. It does not mean that there cannot be an actual mark, but that would be incidental. This prophecy can come without you even knowing it, because the mark is not a literal mark, it is symbolic. The actual physical mark grows out of fundamentalist thinking that was more prominent before the last century, but still has a large following even today.

    Anyway, if you are one of the elect so to speak, I think you will know it when you see it.

    I personally tend to think of it as a worldwide economic system that requires a certain allegiance. We already have for all intents and purposes a worldwide economic system. But so far it does not appear that we have to act in any given way that makes God secondary in our moral decisions. But once a money system becomes our god, people will be giving allegiance right and left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    ....The actual physical mark grows out of fundamentalist thinking that was more prominent before the last century, but still has a large following even today.

    Anyway, if you are one of the elect so to speak, I think you will know it when you see it.

    I personally tend to think of it as a worldwide economic system that requires a certain allegiance. We already have for all intents and purposes a worldwide economic system. But so far it does not appear that we have to act in any given way that makes God secondary in our moral decisions. But once a money system becomes our god, people will be giving allegiance right and left.
    OK, but what about the microchips? zg
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    If I recall correctly, the mark of the beast is associated with a one-world government, and that hasn't happened yet. It's also something that everyone in the world is forced to accept, not citizens of a few countries. But the book of Revelation does make it very clear that Christians aren't supposed to accept this mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    But the book of Revelation does make it very clear that Christians aren't supposed to accept this mark.
    They weren't supposed to accept Hitler or the slaughter of Iraqi civilians either. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    They weren't supposed to accept Hitler or the slaughter of Iraqi civilians either. zg
    Or the Crusades, for that matter! zg
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    Well, yeah. But us Christians are certainly capable of being dumbasses, just like everyone else. The real dumbasses are the ones that won't admit they could be wrong, or sinful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    I'll give you an inside scoop as to what the mark of the beast is. It is given on the forehead and the hand, right? What it means is that there will arise a worldwide philosophy that will appear okay on the surface, but to subscribe to it will mean denying God. It could be putting the brotherhood of man above any one specific religion (i.e., above Christianity as do the Masons--don't forget, the NT is for Christians) or even above belief in God (I try to be inclusive), or it could be submitting to an economic system that also makes moral choices for you (like the EU requiring abortion as a social measure). Whatever it is, the meaning is that if a person gives his allegiance (his mind, and therefore the mark on his forehead) and works for its success (work equates to the mark on his hand), then he is marked (figuratively) for destruction. It's all symbolic. It does not mean that there cannot be an actual mark, but that would be incidental. This prophecy can come without you even knowing it, because the mark is not a literal mark, it is symbolic. The actual physical mark grows out of fundamentalist thinking that was more prominent before the last century, but still has a large following even today.

    Anyway, if you are one of the elect so to speak, I think you will know it when you see it.

    I personally tend to think of it as a worldwide economic system that requires a certain allegiance. We already have for all intents and purposes a worldwide economic system. But so far it does not appear that we have to act in any given way that makes God secondary in our moral decisions. But once a money system becomes our god, people will be giving allegiance right and left.
    No, the bible specifically states that one cannot buy or sell without this mark. It isn't a metaphor. BTW, the KJV is the only bible that says that this mark is IN your forehead or IN your hand. Not on. Although the actual greek word can denote either on or in. All of the other bible versions state "on."

    Rev. 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads:"
    note: see also Rev. 7:3, Rev. 9:4, Rev. 14:1, Rev. 14:9 and Rev. 22:4

    Another amazing thing about the bible, a mark ON your forehead or ON your hand isn't that amazing since tatoos or marks can easily be put on human skin. But not IN. That technology didn't exist hundreds of years ago with the supporting technology to be able to ascertain whether one has this mark or not. Think about it. Unless someone had xray vision or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEDITANK View Post
    No, the bible specifically states that one cannot buy or sell without this mark. It isn't a metaphor. BTW, the KJV is the only bible that says that this mark is IN your forehead or IN your hand. Not on. Although the actual greek word can denote either on or in. All of the other bible versions state "on."
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