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    KJ clearly does not have a clue about the single deck game. Since when is green chip considered such a high level? I will gladly play you at the black chip level.

    The main difference is shoe requires an offensive attack. Single deck straight up requires a defensive approach.
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    Bosox. Don S touched on the value having the Ace or 10 as the first card of a hand in a thread a couple of years ago. If you ever get a chance, I'd like to read more about what he has to say on that subject. I've ran the TRUE percentages by algebra teachers and even college math professors. None can provide me with a formula to figure out this value.

    Im not going into my game because it isn't even close to the conventional style. Don S was correct. You can't beat today's single deck...I add with a conventional method. I wish it were possible because it would be so much easier. If there was anyone who has ever done the homework, it's me. Im happy to play KJ, Xen, or 21forme at the black chip level.

    At green chip, I'm playing far below my bankroll. Ive thought about jumping to $50 and then $100 tables upon request. But Im afraid of getting banned and I don't have many places left to play as it is. I think about a game plan for this often but have yet to come up with a concrete idea.

    My old coach still has the highest win percentage in that states history after several years before he stopped coaching. It took me a year to buy into his philosophy AND I did everything in my power to transfer. But it wasn't easy in those days. It wasn't until after I graduated that I could see he was doing something special as he would continue to win with far less talent.

    So I adopted his style in blackjack and other ventures. Ive corrosponded with Gronbog from time to time. In a short game, Im trying to win each deck. It's not always about the hand. The strength comes from knowing what is played and what still remains. His sims are based on hand to hand thresholds. Im looking at deck to deck advantages.

    One example of reducing variance. A 100 hands is 16 decks or a session. Now, suppose I can turn the last hand of a deck from a loser into a winner 25% of the time. That's a $200 turn around. But you can't do it with 50% pen. You need deep pen to win. The average out of towner isn't going know where to find it or who the mechanics are or the difference.

    Most of what I write here is notes to myself. Writing is remembering. For instance, the other day I read where KJ exits at a TC -3. Quite frankly, I'm surprised he hangs in that long. But the deck definately goes haywire for a conventional method at that point. It's a strength for me. So I looked deeper and developed some more plays of losing hands into winners.
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    Bosox. Of course the main difference between the green and black is the buy in is 4 times more. Then it's just a chip.

    I've played some $50 min games at my request and $100 tables when available.

    Id be interested in reading how players like you, Don S, Freighter graduated up in min bet tables. Was profit the main consideration? number of hands played? A point in time?

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    Bosox. I appreciate you taking the time to offer words of advice...and Happy New Year Greetings. Back at you.

    Going back to before your time there was Flash. He could be a bully, have several puppets, and Norm would look the other way. Why should this bother me? Because I, like many who read forums, was searching for ways to improve my game within the confines of casino tolerance. It's like when my lady goes shopping. "I don't know what I'm looking for, but I'll let you know when I find it."

    KJ made some interesting observations at Gamblers Forum. Norm would've deleted in a NY second. Now, I'm able to realize Flash's agenda, create confusion to confound to his understanding. He was pirating Norm's software and pushing Hi Opt II for personal gain. The media circus on JFK, Flash was doing at BJTF. Don S was/is the voice of reason and logic. But sometimes it's hard to see the forest through the trees. We've only scratched the surface of his knowledge. I may or may not try to prod more out of him. But he definately offers streamlined efficiency at it's best. It takes alot of study to fully comprehend this statement.

    Norm has tamed his site down considerably. There was a time when he did not have a level playing field. As you quoted a common Norm saying today, "I'm too busy, I don't have time for this." I would add, "it's your fucking job, FIND time."

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    Bosox. I appreciate you taking the time to offer words of advice...and Happy New Year Greetings. Back at you.

    Going back to before your time there was Flash. He could be a bully, have several puppets, and Norm would look the other way. Why should this bother me? Because I, like many who read forums, was searching for ways to improve my game within the confines of casino tolerance. It's like when my lady goes shopping. "I don't know what I'm looking for, but I'll let you know when I find it."

    KJ made some interesting observations at Gamblers Forum. Norm would've deleted in a NY second. Now, I'm able to realize Flash's agenda, create confusion to confound to his understanding. He was pirating Norm's software and pushing Hi Opt II for personal gain. The media circus on JFK, Flash was doing at BJTF. Don S was/is the voice of reason and logic. But sometimes it's hard to see the forest through the trees. We've only scratched the surface of his knowledge. I may or may not try to ptod more out of him. But he definately offers steeamlined efficiency at it's best. It takes alot of study to fully comprehend this statement.

    Norm has tamed his site down considerably. There was a time when he did not have a level playing field. As you quoted a common Norm saying today, "I'm too busy, I don't have time for this." I would add, "it's your fucking job, FIND time."
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    Well Bosox. It's easy to identify the gutless queer. The beating he is giving himself on the inside full of fear is far more than anyone could inflict on the outside.

    If it were me, and it once was with T3, I'd want to meet asap to settle it. I wouldn't want to be looking over my shoulder wondering which day he might show up. It's funny as hell to me. I can only wish I knew where he lived. Evidently, someone he pissed off does now. But if/when it's me? You'll know it.

    The quicker KJ learns to man up and stop being a drama queen the better off he will be. Or spend your life stirred up in your own pot of shit you've made for yourself. No one cares. Including 21Forme.

    Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.
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    LC Larry. Spot on post. Ive been trying to shut KJ up for a long time. Whether his mission is to save the newbie, brag about profits, or cry about losses. He is pissing off casinos and making life difficult for those who compete.

    Exactly who is KJ helping? Nice to see someone else jump on board to shut down KJ express.

    Al Rogers needs to give a full ride to STFU.

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    Bosox. I haven't posted in a few days. When others talk shit on a forum where I can't respond, then I will respond here and at Gamblers forum.
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    Bosox. In regards to your latest post at blackjackinfo. I can summarize in 1 word. WOW

    make that 2 words. Standing O

    make that 3 words. You amazed me.

    make thar 4 words. I'm not easily amazed.


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    Bosox. KJ can talk but his reading comprehension skills are limited as is his education. The only posters who felt the need to post trip reports were Zee, KJ, MWP, and BJAnalyst.

    Frankly, I do not see the point and it does not help my game one iota. If it pisses off just one pit boss or dealer, then it has hurt OUR game.

    I started playing in the mid 80s. Got banned everywhere I played. But I also had a full time and part time job as I began raising my family. AP? Pro? Those are KJ words. Not mine. But the last check I received from a corporation was in 1984. From that point on, if I didn't perform, I didn't get paid.

    I remember a stretch where I went 3 weeks without a sale. I was starting to panic on the inside but couldn't let it show on the outside because not only my fam but several people depended on my success at that time. So I went out the day after Thankgiving and bam wrote 8 big sales. That would be like winning a game 56-0.

    In 2010, I retired for the most part at age 51. It wasn't something I planned on doing. Blackjack is a part of my overall plan. It pays some bills and I can't complain. The game has been very good to me. But I also work very hard at it to improve. Like the Bosox 40, for instance. I thought and thought about what you wrote but couldn't figure out how to make that a more vital part of my game.

    Then one day, it just came to me out of the blue while I was on my 60 minute nature walk. I couldn't wait to get home and write down the formula.

    I guess for me, it's insulting to read how easy the money comes for these trip writers. Man , I feel like I earn every dollar in perhaps the most difficult job of my life.

    But the benefits and hours are great.
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    Ironic, how the KJ and 21Forme think the forums they post on are great. And the ones they don't post or can't on are dog shit. KJ didn't seem to think ZZ or Gamblers forum was so bad when he was doing all his posting/ranting.

    The business I was in and athletics don't lend themselves to being intimidated. I can take and give a punch. But I must admit Im perplexed at what kind of a human hides behind a keyboard.

    But, there is one thing that does scare me. It's those little old ladies at church. They can deliver a verbal blow with the tongue. It's like getting punched on the inside. Then you do it to yourself over and over again.

    I was hit by the perverbial bus in 2010. The fact I was even in church was a testimate to my kids. I wanted to stay down. But I knew if I didn't get back up, fight, and move on with my life that would send the wrong message to my kids. Up to that point, I was on a 25 or 30 year win streak. But that year, I watched 2/3rds of wealth diminish piece by piece.

    But a verbal blow from this one lady was I deserved everything I got because I devoted so much time to work and didn't love my family. From HER prespective, I didn't spend enough time in church. Sooo, the Lord was punishing me. That one took years to overcome and numerous self punches in gut. Well sister, according to your Bible, it states the man is suppose to go out and provide while the woman takes care of the kids. THAT is exactly what I did. In addition, I made sure they always got to practice on time and NEVER had to wait to be picked up. THIS included getting up at 4am 3 days a week and Saturday at 6am to drive them for 5 straight years.

    Furthermore, just who in the hell are you to sit in judgement of me? Okay, you've never missed a Sunday, rarely miss a Bible study, make cookies for the church bizarre, shoes drives, and pour soup to homeless. That is all fine and dandy. In fact, I will be the first one to rise and give you a standing O. But maybe, JUST maybe, the reason I worked so hard was because I cared so much for my family. Did you ever once consider that? I would imagine being a saint 24/7 must be demanding.

    Sorry Bosox. I've rolled with that punch for nearly a decade. I had to get it out. You get my drift. No?
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    LC Larry writes: Games have been deteriorating since the 80's because people cant keep their mouth shut.

    Moses writes: Do you know how to identify a devout Christrian woman? Just stand around. Sooner or later they will come up and tell you "I'm a devout Christian woman."

    Point is, this is KJ in a nutshell. He has to tell everyone who he is and what he does. The results. etc. etc.

    What is worse? KJ and 21Forme go to extremes to stiffle any conversations they don't like or want to hear. They are on a crusade. But these are suppose to be blackjack forums. No?
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    Bosox. Oh my my...the drama at blackjack info. Will KJ stay or leave? Will 21Forme piss or shit himself over little ole me. One poster on an island.

    I can either be a nice guy or an asshole. I prefer the nice guy route. By the asshole route is familiar ground.

    By in the ealy 90's. I was working a State Champoinship game. They chose officials from various conferences. So I had never met my partner before. In our pregame discussion he informed me the coach on one team was from his conference banned him from officiating his games. He was clearly upset. Kept going to the bathroom, pacing etc etc. So I said, "when we go out, walk right him to him and say let's let bygones be bygones and stick out your hand." I went to the other teams coach and he was supposed to tell me how the discussion went. But he didn't.

    So as they are playing the National Anthem I wispered, "so how did it go"? He replied, "he refused my hand shake...and he still HATES me." So guess who gets to be the asshole.

    My partner makes the first call about two minutes into the game. The coach flies off the bench and is hollering and waving his arms. During the free throws we switch positions so I could have a "chat" with this coach. I said "look you don't know me. But I am the meanest mother fucker on this planet. Do that to my partner again? I guarantee you will be watching this game from a monitor in the locker room. From this point on? If you have a problem you talk to me." I gave my partner a wink. He ran by the coach later, and he said, "man, your partner is really an asshole." Music to my ears. The game went fine from that point on.
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    Part of KJs problem is he is a drama queen. The other part is he is a liar. 21forme is just an on old chicken shit.

    Yep, I called Norm 3 times. I was peeesed off. He hung up. I've repeated the Flash email story many times.

    Nope, it wasn't me who went to KJs building. Personally, I think he is a liar and he is trying to squeeze every drop of sympathy he can get...drama queen.

    But IF Im wrong? KJ has a major problem. He has pissed off many posters AND moderators. Plus he has accused casinos of cheating and listed same. Hell, it could be the unemployed husband of a lady blackjack dealer who may have to find a job is she loses hers? Who knows? Who cares? No one really. But KJ chose to put himself out there. So deal with it.

    Me? Im used to taking the fight to the dog not the dog to the fight. Im not sure what Id do because I dont know where you live. A one on one encounter has been the case before.

    I HAVE NEVER been contacted by any cyber police, detectives, or anyone in a position of legal authority. Well, I did get a ticket for driving 39 in 35 on my way to a Deep Purple concert. Man...those guys are still great. Smoke on the waaaterrr. Don S, Norm, and Bosox knows what Im talkin bout.
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    Excellent summary and replies to DonS/others at Bjifo.

    Skipper, 21Forme is pounding the table speaking about the long run. Hence, live your life away chasing variance at a blackjack table. Then you have his little buddy Gilligan posting short term results.

    Amnesia is a big part for me. Nothing I do today has anything to do with yesterday etc, etc. So forgive me for boring you with a couple days results. Frank Galvin is one of the most intelligent players Ive ever met. Hard for me to believe he was a novice. He could speak about various games and on so many levels.

    I play green chip. I get a decent spread allowance. But the frequency of large(r) bets is minimal by comparison. So deck composition is key.

    I play about 5 sessions, 300 hands a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year. Or 75k hands annually. I track it by decks. Straight up is 6 or 7 hands per deck. Depending on dealer.

    Last Friday, Im in a max bet situation at the end of the day. I get a 20 and 10,2 vs 2. I know 2 Aces remain, 2 (5-8s) 1 (3-5s) no more than 2 dueces. I am secure about my 20. But face a borderline decision on 12. I hit and get an Ace. Dealer flips an 8. Im thinking, whew, I took the Ace which would've beat both hands. The she hits a 4 followed by a 7. Damn. Still beat both hands. What are the odds of exhausting both columns AND having them come out in that order? I just laugh to myself because I know it was a freakish thing.

    The profit for the day was gone. I played one more session and called it a week up about $250. Yesterday I got to play against some of my favorite dealers. I was down $465 going into my last session. In the 10th deck, I got to 1-6-4. Dealer was dealer dealing deep so I went 6-0 large bets on that deck to recoup the losses for the day.

    IF I was playing black, my swings might be $2500 each way on rare occasions.

    KJ writes about losing $12.5 in a morning session and then making it all back in the afternoon. Whether I render this as bullshit (I do) or not, isnt the point. I suppose his purpose is to make his Skipper proud. The point is the casino READS a $12.5 recovery. They don't like that shoved in their face. It makes them look stupid. No? So how does that benefit fellow APs? It doesn't. It ONLY makes the game more difficult for us all.
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