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    Good post Bosox. Not sure where people get the idea Im a red chip player. My daughter went to UNR back in 2008 on an athletic scholarship. That is when I started playing again. Yes, I played in the mid 80's and got banned at many places. But not in Reno.

    I played red chip but spread like a mad man. I thought the idea was to win.

    The financial downfall/divorce was like a perfect storm. The house we owned less than 2 years was purchased for $555k. At the time, it was worth $750k. So a 10 year plan was the idea. Neither of us wanted to buy the other out. Nor did I want to be partners with my ex on anything. I'd do all the work for 1/2 the money. We sold for $400k and split. So I walked away with $200k and bought a house here for $170k. We split a $100k CD and I wanted $20k from each of us reserved for my daughters college. We had several rentals and deed of trust to sell and that took time. So yes, I was somewhat cash poor in 2010 to 2013 or so. I was getting banned eveywhere until I stumbled across Norm in 2013. That is when I could my game needed to be modified considerably or soon I wouldn't have a game to play. Soonafter, investments started to payoff although at a significant loss. I quickly jumped to green chip because it allowed me to play straight up for longer periods of time.

    Ive talked with Frank Galvin quite a bit about the idea of jumping to black. He didn't think I'd last 6 month if I did. So I've toyed with the idea. I may jump to $50 soon. But Im not sure what Id do with my time if I got banned. Im bored stiff as it is. Blackjack has a calming effect on me.

    2010 was, without a doubt, the worst year of my life. The 25 prior were really great. They just were never real. So when reality sets in it can be quite a jolt. A buddy kept saying"you've got to stop thinking about it." But that was difficult because he and everyone would constantly brought it up. We were the All-American family. So it was shocking.

    Well, to put my mind on something else, I dug deep into blackjack. Really deep. It seems to work. I remember a lady came up to me in church to express sorrow about the divorce. She had recently lost her husband. I said "what I'm going through is nothing compared to you." She said, "oh no, death is final but divorce lasts forever." Boy was she right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Good post Bosox. Not sure where people get the idea Im a red chip player. My daughter went to UNR back in 2008 on an athletic scholarship. That is when I started playing again. Yes, I played in the mid 80's and got banned at many places. But not in Reno.

    I played red chip but spread like a mad man. I thought the idea was to win.

    The financial downfall/divorce was like a perfect storm. The house we owned less than 2 years was purchased for $555k. At the time, it was worth $750k. So a 10 year plan was the idea. Neither of us wanted to buy the other out. Nor did I want to be partners with my ex on anything. I'd do all the work for 1/2 the money. We sold for $400k and split. So I walked away with $200k and bought a house here for $170k. We split a $100k CD and I wanted $20k from each of us reserved for my daughters college. We had several rentals and deed of trust to sell and that took time. So yes, I was somewhat cash poor in 2010 to 2013 or so. I was getting banned eveywhere until I stumbled across Norm in 2013. That is when I could my game needed to be modified considerably or soon I wouldn't have a game to play. Soonafter, investments started to payoff although at a significant loss. I quickly jumped to green chip because it allowed me to play straight up for longer periods of time.

    Ive talked with Frank Galvin quite a bit about the idea of jumping to black. He didn't think I'd last 6 month if I did. So I've toyed with the idea. I may jump to $50 soon. But Im not sure what Id do with my time if I got banned. Im bored stiff as it is. Blackjack has a calming effect on me.

    2010 was, without a doubt, the worst year of my life. The 25 prior were really great. They just were never real. So when reality sets in it can be quite a jolt. A buddy kept saying"you've got to stop thinking about it." But that was difficult because he and everyone would constantly brought it up. We were the All-American family. So it was shocking.

    Well, to put my mind on something else, I dug deep into blackjack. Really deep. It seems to work. I remember a lady came up to me in church to express sorrow about the divorce. She had recently lost her husband. I said "what I'm going through is nothing compared to you." She said, "oh no, death is final but divorce lasts forever." Boy was she right.
    In the spirit of the season, I will offer you an olive branch of opening a respectful dialogue. I have done this before, like when you joined VCT and you refused.

    Moses, I am sorry for your divorce. I really am. It seems to have hit you very hard and I guess made for a bad decade for you. If blackjack was able to distract you from that, that's pretty cool or as I like to say kewl.

    But that said, can you explain why you have gone after me for most of that decade. And don't give me any crap about you think I am misleading newer players because I know you don't believe that. You know that I know what I am talking about when it comes to blackjack, particularly the shoe game and Las Vegas.

    Furthermore it is pretty damn clear that your real issue with me has zero to do with blackjack. So you don't like gays. Big deal. That doesn't give you the right to attack my credibility and achievements as you have done for the better part of a decade.

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    Funny story. My daughter recently bought a truck. We went into my Ins. agents office to get her set up. He was a nice young man and very helpful. They had dogs and I took my grandson out to see them and visited with the other guy. I learned a great deal but do not judge.

    Anyway, we got back in the truck and she commented how nice and helpful he was and wondered for a moment if he was single. I said "no, I think he is married." She paused for a moment, then said "well, the other guy was good looking." I said "that is his husband." She replied "damn, why are all the good ones taken." Anyway they are great guys and provide excellent service. So, no Im not against gay people.

    There is another guy around the sportsbook rumored to be light in the loafers. But he is very knowledgeable about sports betting. I always would visit with him and wave, say hello and be friendly. Now the accusers do the same.

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    The problem I have with you is the need to tell everyone you're gay. Your lies. Your dramatic responses. Your bragging. You put out info that hurts you which I don't care. But you also put out info that hurts other players and I do care. Your condescending attitude when someone disagrees. The way you drag out the Norm and Shack thing.

    Beating this game requires concentration, focus, determination, and calmness. It's the closest thing to any sport Ive ever played. Therefore, I do not see how you can be one way on a forum and then suddenly change. The time you spend on forums doesn't leave much time to play. Especially, with your style which invites wild swings in variance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    The problem I have with you is the need to tell everyone you're gay. Your lies. Your dramatic responses. Your bragging. You put out info that hurts you which I don't care. But you also put out info that hurts other players and I do care. Your condescending attitude when someone disagrees. The way you drag out the Norm and Shack thing.
    I have lied about exactly 1 thing in this community and it was a doozy, my death. It involved a robbery outside my home and I was fearful there would be repeat incidents. I am sorry I did it. I am sorry that some members of the community felt and still feel betrayed. BUT, I never ran from it. I still accept responsibility for it. One forum member advised me to lay low for a couple months and then create a new handle. I wouldn't do that.

    I share my experiences and that includes my results. It's not bragging. It's not a lot of money. It's not like I am claiming to have made 250-300k like some of the higher end players did for a couple years until they got banned everywhere. I try to show what a lower end, mid-level grinder can make in this day and age. It's funny, back when I was making low 5 figures, no one thought I was bragging. In 2013 when I finished way below expectation (30% of expectation and made 27k for the year, no one thought I was bragging. But when I hit expectation at 75-80 grand or finish above expectation close to 100k, I am accused of bragging.

    It is never me that first mentions that I am gay on a forum. I am always "outed" by someone else. But I won't run from that either. I decided that when I was 15. It is who I am. And it has played a part in my AP life, especially when my partner was alive. Other AP talk about their personal lives and spouses, why can't I, if it is relevant to the discussion? I am sorry if some people are uncomfortable with that. It is 2019, soon to be 2020 for god sakes.

    The Norm and Shack situation is obviously related. Norm should be called out for his behavior in this community. He protected a guy who was a fraud and intentionally misleading players with his super duper count. 500% increase. Mathematically impossible. Norm shut down anyone challenging this bullshit, simply because the guy was the leading poster on his forum. It took years before Don finally completely debunked T3 because he had that protection. And then T3 changed his story to that he wasn't even talking about blackjack and all that crap.

    And really Norm did almost the same thing with Flash. Flash was allowed to repeat two statements probably 1000 times. "That no professional or serious players play hi-lo" and that "no one can make any money playing hi-lo". These are lies. MOST professional players throughout the years have played a level one count, including almost all the known teams. Flash repeated these lies because he wanted to tutor and mentor players to play Hi-opt2, for a fee of course.

    So Norm should answer for protecting these two people who Norm as a math guy knew were full of shit and misleading players. Forum owners have a different agenda....it is forum traffic.
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    Now I am not going to post here anymore because I want to encourage Zengrifter to keep hisword and shut down this hellhole. Maybe if you can stop acting like the craziest bastard on the face of the earth and threatening everyone and threating to out everyone, we could figure out a way to get you back in the community somewhere, since Bosox thinks you have something worthwhile to offer, but it has to start with you.

    Happy holidays.

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    You lied about me. No way am I homeless or have ever been. No way have I ever received one penny from the government or a benefit. The only time I even ask for a red chip is to tip the dealer after a losing session. Yes, I bet large in sports. But am still under betting based on my financial portfolio.

    I called Norm 3 times in succession and went off on him - no I went the fuck off on him. But he kept hanging up so I figured he'd rather hide than confront. So I pretty much forgot about because he is not my agenda which is winning.

    Flash set the stardard for assholism on forums. I received emails from him early on. His agenda was not blackjack. What a prick! I put up with his little tricks, puppets, and condesceding remarks from Aug 2013 to Sept 2016. Obviously, I can be an asshole as well. The problem I had with Norm was he deleted my posts but did not delete Flash's. So I looked like the villan.
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    It's never a good idea to speak to income or profits. Especially, when you claim to make far more in far less time than "our" opponent. There is only one guy I know of that remotely cares about newbies. Winning isn't enough for him. When he wins he complains that others don't bet his picks. When he loses he disappears for awhile. He's annoying as hell and most people avoid him.

    Newbies can fend for themselves. Why in the world would I train someone to do what I do? For free - no less. Eventually, they would be another ass in my seat.
    Can you not see that your quest to help the newbie is hurting savvy players?

    Forums are not a congenialty contest. Blackjack is about winning and doing so in a humble way. No one wants to read T3's pages of complexity. But in reading some of it, I discovered ways to improve my own game.
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    Since 2010, I have never seen so many people run their mouth and not back up their words or actions. Maybe it's always been that way and I was too busy too notice. I guess that is what forums are about because they wouldn't say directly to someone face what they write on forums. I would and do...and don't stop.

    Ive read where you've threatened several guys in their 70s. I will never back down because the beating one gives themself on the inside is far worse than could be delivered to the outside. And I will stand up for those who can't defend themselves.
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    21flashme writes to Bosox: You should never incite someone who is mentally ill. No good can come from it.

    Moses writes: No one should ever incite anyone. You never know what is on the inside. Especially, a coward such as 21Flash who has no intention of ever backing up his words. You followed Zee to other sites to incite him. You're still afraid to confront me here. Because you're a coward. YOU have an account.

    You sit in judgement like you are something. Flash is a non believer. You're nothin. A big zero. Total goose egg. Empty shell of a man. The most boring dumb asshole on earth.

    The only card you are playing in the Moses is crazy card. It can't compensate for the 21whatthefuck is a coward card. That is obvious. But keep burying yourself.

    IF KJ has a problem he can respond here. He is a big boy. He doesn't need you to stick up for him on another forum with 2 sentence generalities.
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    Wow KJ. i am really in your head. But to help you out. Nope, it wasn't me who wrote on WOV. It wasn't me who came to your home this summer. If someone was encouraged then you are giving me far too much credit since no one ever reads this site. Somehow, you fail to realize you've pissed off tons of people.

    I cant remember the last time I left Reno. I have tried to find you by following the trail you leave behind. But you're good. I haven't been able to do it. You'll know if I ever do. Quite frankly, you're not worth the 8 hour drive.

    You and 21forme are going off the charts with lies to cover up the fact you are both cowards.

    You 2 idiots are trying to win a forum congeniality contest again. When are you going to get it? No one cares.

    The name Moses has already been used at blackjack info. Can you imagine the commotion if I signed up with a different handle? You 2 wimps would go nuts.
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    Bosox. Let me get this straight. KJ and 21forme want me to come to a site where the playing field is not level. But both can drop the gloves with me here where the playing field is level and both are already set up. But they'd rather encourage Zengrifter to close the site than face me?

    How about Gamblers Forum? You 2 want to meet me over there? Oh, that's right, neither of you like that one either.

    Zengrifter. How about letting Bosox and Freighter come on board? THEN, you have a forum.
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    Agreed Bosox:

    Who qoutes Shakespear/Enstein
    on a blackjack forum
    21 forme and blue ink flash
    Spot on placement - up his ass.


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    Default The T3 Story

    Bosox makes some interesting points. I could never figure out exactly what is was T3 was doing. Tarzan, I get. But T3 seems like he is getting the sounds of an orchestra by blowing into a whistle.

    I prefer the term, don't "insult" the EITS as opposed to "fool" the house. SP21 is a completely different game than the blackjack shoe game? The single deck straight up also has it's own agenda.

    From the lyrics, As Time Goes By, "A smile is just a smile" - "A chip is just a chip." Stepping up in color equates to less time at the tables and a smaller spread. But also less interrupted sessions. Discipline, knowledge, patience, and not being greedy are the keys to profit along with longevity. AND smile when you don't feel like smiling.

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    CiF asks Bosox: It this qoute suppose to make sense to blackjack players?

    Moses writes: Yes. Keywords being "blackjack players."

    You may be reading my posts at Gambling Forums soon?

    Seems like everyone wants this site shut down. Fine by me. Bosox probably knows more about the administrator than I do. Care to share?
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