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    Interestingly enough, what Axel said about members learning just enough to appear credible is my whole issue with the former member here (who plays Reno). He knows "just enough" but oddly has no clue about the variance really involved with blackjack AP play.

    Normally I don't care or say anything in that situation but when someone tries to discredit me and exposes their lack of knowledge in doing do...i am going to say something.

    You're an idiot. I doubt you even have time to play considering all the topics you involve yourself with on forums. Describe variance. You can't because your too hung up on math. Your GED education limits you from taking a deeper look. Advising others like John Corver to hang in there because variance will turn is ludicrous.

    Don S writes to KJ: You have a different understanding of my comments than you ought to. You read a single article, which you now take as the Holy Grail, and have decided that, because someone wrote something that you've interpreted as you see fit, it applies to every human being on the face of the earth, and THAT's just plain ignorant.

    Someday I WILL find you. Quite frankly, I admit your not as easy as others. But I'm sure I've got your first name, you email, and fairly certain I got your last name. All without spending a dime. Just from YOU running your mouth on these forums. When I do, you will wish you'd never crossed my path in your life.
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    Default Rob Singer nails KJ the squirrel

    This post depicts kew in a nutshell. It is HIGHLY probable that he is an avid reader of professional blackjack books, he dreams of it almost every night, and he gleans a large amount of information from being a regular in the online gaming forum circuit.

    Don S writes to KJ: You have a different understanding of my comments than you ought to. You read a single article, which you now take as the Holy Grail, and have decided that, because someone wrote something that you've interpreted as you see fit, it applies to every human being on the face of the earth, and THAT's just plain ignorant.

    a/k/a The act of a flaming queertard.

    He then created his anonymous online personality and life. He wraps it all up with typical, predictable frustration whenever he tells his tales, some people express doubts, so he goes anywhere from nuts to ballistic--and all because he is unable to do what he says he can do and handle criticism gracefully.

    I have never seen any anonymous poster anywhere so deeply invested in themself that, if anyone challenges of does not accept his position, it seems to affect him like there's no tomorrow.

    Queertard is nuttier than squirrel turds. But you nailed him.

    But I enjoy watching him perform

    Naw, I have to disagree. HE can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Thus he is a pathetic sight to any site. Throw him a ball under handed and real soft? He'd miss and it would still knock him out. What a klutz!

    UCFX also nailed him from a professionals standpoint in post #24 above.
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    Jupiter 88 writes:
    are you playing a s17 and late surrender 8 deck or 6 deck? is your min bet 10$ and top bet 100$? so your down 30ish max bets? man thats a drop in the bucket compared to Kewljason who blows through 3 grand hourly but yea i couldn't stand to lose 7 grand as you did and claw back my way to just down 3k its more remarkable the house didn't block your action if they are counting along with you on norm site Sands pa claims to be a sweaty shop as is Parx and i heard Smallcap got banned in sugarhouse in philly

    Interesting.

    sidthesquid i remember reading how he was homeless in center city or south philadelphia, and how he quit his job making minium wage which was 6.50$ an hr at the time of philadelphia early 2000, so then he gambled it up at borgata with their six deckers 10$ min table or 5 and started with a crap bank roll of a 4,500$ and manage to make it grow infinity like a burning candle that he keeps adding wax too and still complains how he lost LOL hes either a fictional character created by the gaming houses or is real
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    KJ on another girlish rant:

    In typical Larry fashion, he is giving a blow-by-blow description on another site.

    O no. There are so many blow-by-blow descriptions regarding the queertard. a/k/a J-29K

    Larry, stop being such a little bitch and talking about me on a site that I don't participate on, can't respond if I wanted to

    Oh. You mean like what you do on VCT? And then run to the cyber police when I call your bluff.

    You are about the biggest "sissy" I know and in my community, I have known a few sissies.


    No argument. I bet you do know a lot of sissies. You mean there is actually a sissy bigger than you?

    If you have something to say about me and this site, then come here and say it. Instead you run away and talk behind our back, you big ball-washing pansy.

    Ditto. What goes around comes around fruit loop. Tough talk. Wanna back it up? I will fill in for Larry S. Put your money where you mouth is gay boy.
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    Default Verite shuffles are different?

    Jupiter88:
    Casino verite engine shuffles don't mimic real life shuffles id be a millionaire if they did

    KJ; See what happens with your stupid little reports and make believe fan club? Just play the fuckin game. I would put my time invested on Verite up against anyone. I've never noticed any difference in the shuffles from real life to Verite. IF anything, the casino is less difficult for the most part. However, just the other day, I experienced a casino dealer getting a blackjack (with Ace in the hole) on the first hand of 3 consecutive single decks AND 7 blackjacks in just two decks and the first hand of the 3rd deck before I said WTF?
    The most she could've have got was 9. THAT has never happened on Verite.

    So I'm curious. What is it you're seeing on Verite that makes the shuffles different from a casino? And how is it so easy that you'd become a millionaire?

    FWIW, my play is far better on Verite with my defensive strategy than the offensive approach SCORE suggests on CV Data. AND I am far better at the casino in terms of session results at the casino than I am on Verite. The reason is I give myself no breaks on Verite and I know how to see and take advantage of the breaks in a casino.

    KJ and his stupid rah rah math proclamations? Knowledge reduces risk and it's a game of people played with cards. Those are FACTS no matter how you slice it.




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    JohnCorver writes:
    I have found peace. I'm quitting BJ when I hit the 1,000-hour session mark after not showing a profit.
    There's only so much abuse a human can take and I have decided this is my threshold. I can't lose like this for the rest of my life. Even if it's just bad luck. I just can't keep killing myself like this.

    I have a question for Mr Corver and Mr. Jupiter. Why did you play unprepared? CV Data and Verite were not on the market when I started playing. So it was the old "learn at the kitchen table" method. If I had Don S money, I'd burn mine. Quite frankly, I wouldn't touch a multi deck, multi player game if Don S gave me his money to play with. My point, Mr. Corver is this. You read a book or acquired some notion that you could easily beat the game of blackjack. Perhaps from KJs endless supply of chronicles and useless drivel.

    So, now you've invested time and money to learn this game isn't for you. I agree. But you could've invested no money and far less time to come to that conclusion with Verite. Time is money. Think, what you could've earned during this time had you not been sitting at a table chasing EV that KJ claims to attain so easily.

    My guess is if you would've played out 10k hands on Verite. That's 10 hours a day, 100 hands an hour, you would have made this determination in about 10 days. Instead you let some halfwit queers utter nonsense sway your way of thinking. No?

    The one thing I HATE to learn is a lesson. You sir, have just learned a lesson in the game of blackjack, and more importantly, the game of life. Now use it to your advantage. Trust me, there will be bigger fish to catch and challenges in your lifetime.

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    KJ writes:

    There simply is no way to avoid variance and swings with blackjack card counting! Either understand this and be prepared, or move on to something else.

    Bullshit GED. I would agree you can't beat a shoe. But that isn't variance. That is called stupidity. Far easier ways to make money.

    There have been a couple guys in this community claiming they can win without variance. They are full of shit! One was the "super duper count guy" at BJTF. He claimed his super duper count allowed him to win with very little variance. This was just part of his claim that was complete bullshit. And eventually he was completely debunked and slinked away.

    I was assume you are referring to T3 and/or Tarzan or if they are one in the same. Tarzan would certainly reduce variance because he is turning losing hands into winning hands with the addition of counting the middle cards. It's obvious this would be even more successful in a double deck game than a shoe.

    The second is the lunatic up in Reno, who claims he plays Single deck with little or no variance.

    Nah. Just someone you've managed to piss off with your lies and garbage enough to kick the ever livin shit out of you. So keep hiding. My game is fairly tame by design. It's the end result that matters. And I don't need the aggravation of big swings. Time, consistency, knowing, and finding your game are vital. Otherwise, don't play. Simple. No?

    At least there is some basis to this claim, as decent single decks game with reasonable penetration will result in a reduction of these big swings. Problem is these games are all but extinct. You can play them in Reno and that's about all and for very low stakes, making peanuts. And even then, you are going to be able to get away with it for days, maybe a couple weeks at best.

    I've been doing it since 2011. Play me for black chips or STFU. But yes, no need for others to come here. You'd get the boot in short order. Everything you read or are taught is about playing offensively. Here, you have to play defensively.

    So there is an option for you. Go to Reno and play blackjack spreading $5-$15 for a week or two at best. OR learn to handle and deal with the swings and variance that is part of real blackjack card counting.

    I can't remember the last time I played with a $5-$15 spread. But those are the places that will ban you the quickest. Many of those casinos are now gone. I agree. Stay away.

    So that is your choice, but stop attacking players that understand the game, are prepared for and deal with the variance. And stop attacking Don Schlesinger. For all he has done for so many in the community, he shouldn't have to endure that nonsense from a couple crybabies that just aren't prepared for what they are doing and are bitter at the world.

    I would suggest finding some double deck games with at least 60% pen and find Tarzan. At least Tarzan has the wisdom to blaze his own path and not be, a rah rah sis boom bah, like KJ. But his columns are slightly out of whack and he should be able to remember a double deck column count without the reduction to zero. With that, he'd be almost unstoppable.

    No need to attack to Don S. He sees things from a certain perspective. It would be wise to learn that perspective and apply it to your game. This game is NOT easy. It's WORK. I don't think anyone could question Don S wisdom, and more importantly, his work ethics. But I could be wrong. I've never met him. Just my opinion.
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    Jupiter writes:
    you hear that John? being ahead 25 grand is horrible when your suppose to be ahead 87grand! oh well can't win em all! did you lose all John and ended up
    replenishing your BR?

    Think about for a moment. IF all you had to do was learn HiLO, play shoes with multiple players and make $100K a year? 1.) People would be lined up out to the street waiting for a table spot to open up for them. 2.) The casinos are not in the biz to give away money. IF item 1 were true for just one day? They'd stop offering the game permanently.

    THAT is enough to make a person wonder if these self professed pros on forums are not actually casino trappers.

    KJ writes to JohnCorver and Jupiter:
    I think the problem is you guys are looking at very short-term results and drawing whatever conclusions from them, because I see numbers like 10,000 rounds, 20, 000 rounds being thrown around.

    You're the one crying about losing $29k in a week and the a miraculous recovery while spending most of your time on forums.

    Again, I have had 5 different losing periods lasting 40,000 to 50,000 rounds! I don't even want to guess how many 10,000 round losing periods I have had. You guys freaking out over this kind of a sample size, just proves you don't understand the basics principals of the game needed to succeed. I don't know how many times I can say, blackjack card counting is a long-term deal. Many, MANY hills and valleys.

    Wrong! This is WORK! Losing is costly. Winning too much too fast gets you banned. Shoes belong on your feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    I can't remember the last time I played with a $5-$15 spread.
    Sure you can. It was last week on the 1st of the month when your welfare check came.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KewlJ View Post
    Sure you can. It was last week on the 1st of the month when your welfare check came.
    Them's fighting words. Never been on welfare in my life. Never ask a dime from anyone. Anytime you think you can step to my league just bring it on.

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    "An empty can makes a lot of noise."

    KJ in a nutshell.

    SplitFace Disaster writes:
    I think that anyone who has met ZK in person and/or talked to him in depth knows that he wouldn`t ever do anything crazy. I know that doesn`t excuse whatever it is that he said and he has to stop doing it, but I just wanted to chime in my opinion. It`s probably really hard to believe from some of his behavior on the internet, but in person he`s a relaxed and likable guy. Anyway, as he suggested, he needs to stay off of forums completely and I have said that to him before. He needs a healthier way of venting because obviously he has a quirk where he starts rage-typing when he`s pissed and goes off the deep end. ZK, the next hot shoe you win, go out and buy a punching bag!

    There is old saying in sports "walk it off." These forums create far more issues than they solve with KJ running his mouth and telling his lies. I suppose young people are gullible enough to buy into his crap. Big talkers run rampant throughout casinos. Few ever back it up. So ZK punishes himself because his perception is he should be doing better and the money should be coming easy. It takes WORK lots of WORK in order to be successful in any endeavor. Especially, this one.

    People see a player stand calmly at the free throw line and sink two to win the game. Easy peasy. What they don't see is the thousands he shot at the park or in a cold empty gym. Not so easy now is it? For instance, I'd be at the park battling the wind, rain, and even snow. I put backspin on the ball so it would not only go through the hoop but back bounce to me. I'd shoot 25 right handed and then 25 left handed. Then go best out of 7. I'd have to go chase the ball down after a miss. Thus I hated missing.

    Now, at the end of a game, you're tired, sweaty, but there is the feeling of power with the ball in your hands to end the game. THAT feeling is worth the WORK. There is no wind, no rain, no snow, and the official hands the ball to you. Now, most are feeling the pressure of OMG it's up to me to win the game. For me, it was you just fouled the wrong guy and this game is over. I wasn't thinking about the game, I was thinking about the ease, by comparison, at the line. So what I mean about perception?

    It's the same thing in blackjack. You have the tools to really become a competitive player. But you'd rather believe some half wit queer is running around chasing variance making 100k a year with little effort exerted. Why? Because it sounds EASY!
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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf more than a few people have said the same thing about your claims of making 60 to 90,000 a year for umpteen years.
    Ya know what Axelwolf, you have finally figured me out.

    I started posting on blackjack forums 15 years ago. Picked the lowest and easiest form of AP, card counting. I figured THAT groundbreaking stuff would REALLY impress people, since almost everyone in the AP community looks down on card counters.

    I shared my experiences, most of them not very impressive for a number of years. Things like how I earned less than 10k a year for 3 years, barely scraping by on a shoestring BR. Living below the poverty line. I figured THAT would impress people.

    I shared how I failed in Atlantic City, wearing out my welcome as soon as I was finally (after years) able to move up in stakes. Yeah, this failure was sure to impress people.

    I shared how I was forced to pick up and move 2500 miles across country to get a second chance at my dream, leaving friends behind.

    And then once I got to Vegas I have shared the ups and downs. Early backoffs. Struggling through 5 different losing 6 month periods, some of which I vented almost as bad as Zenking (well not THAT bad).

    I shared a year that I made 27k for the year, vs expectation of 85k. I am sure that impressed everyone.

    I shared how my posting on forums lead to my being robbed right outside my residence. Who wouldn't be impressed by that.

    Yeah, you are on to me Axel. I have wasted 15 years of my life, with this charade.

    If sound looks and smells like bullshit. Don't eat it. It's bullshit.

    Let's go with, More Forum nonsense from a Drama Queen for $500 Alex. I mean Axel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    KJ writes:
    Really? KJ "slaughtered" the casinos in AC with BR less than 10k when I started? Slaughtered? I'd call that a bit of revisionist history.
    That is why they call him Little Boy Blew. He needs the money.

    Twinkie twinkie KJ thinks he's a star
    many wonder where you are
    shine your light bright in the parking lot
    So All can see KJ is just a little twat.
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    KJ writes:
    This is how you know when these guys are completely full of shit. You make a post on topic, of blackjack, critical or questioning things they say or claim (as I did aabove) and they can only respond with completely unrelated Hate attacks. They can't respond to valid criticism. I mean this is supposed to be a mature 60 year old man, writing the shit Moses writes. Just sad....really sad!

    I don't answer to anyone, dogs, or ducks.
    Especially, you two weak little fucks.

    I wonder why Don S wrote all those books.
    KJ makes him seem like one of many crooks

    Just learn HiLO and turn gay
    Rant on forums is the KJ way.


    So there is some queer in Vegas
    who is afraid to face or play me
    And some bandwagon jumper
    in Boston who cannot see.

    You're both just talk with worthless stuff
    KJ is a tender ninny when I call his bluff
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    Kj writes to his alter ego ZenKing:
    I am sure you have heard one of my favorite sayings "it isn't that hard to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking."

    I seriously doubt KJ can walk and chew gum at the same time.

    Jason and Jill
    went up the hill
    To play the game of blackjack
    Each a grand in their fanny pack

    Jill came down
    She beat the clown

    Broke and alone was the self professed “pro”
    Easy money for Jill from the forum homo.

    KJ sat dejected with dark clouds in
    OF course he'll claim, he lost twenty nine thousin.


    Now Freighter took Jill back up that hill
    Cleaned her out as he always will

    Wong Halves he used, no side count needed
    to leave Jill alone broke and beated

    They bowed in Freight's honor and hailed
    Many have tried him. All have failed

    He's a far better man, some say with brass balls
    than the drama queen queer who wobbles and falls.

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