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    21 Forme writes:
    Anyone whose life revolves around BJ forums and gets himself banned from every single one of them is stupid.

    Hey drama queen. I've been banned from exactly two forums. BJTF and VCT. There is no need to network with idiots, cowards, and drama queens such as you. The Freighters, Gronbogs, Don S, Tarzans, T3, and others have helped me to improve my game considerably, in spite of losers like you. Winning at blackjack is key. Not winning some congeniality contest on a forum. I guess that ruffles the feathers of losers like yourself.

    As Blitzer said, "this forum is for the few who are winners. Not whiners". You're a coward and a whiner. Care to prove me wrong? Smart move, because I'd kick your fucking ass on any level except for being a chain smoking, fat ass, dipshit who spends his whole life chasing variance.

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    Parpaluck writes:

    A guy named 21forme writes in the same thread:
    • “Suppose you find out it's that mental midget on Z(en)Z(one).”
    That guy is most likely the real “mental midget”, the owner and patient-in-chief of “The Asylum” (BJTF), one of the most seriously sick peopleNorman Wattenberger Shkiottorban himself. The two are one and the same as they express themselves (in writing) as one and the same.

    Interesting. Norm deleted the post I C & P'ed in post 14 of this thread. In trying to be tricky by taking a swipe a me, he insulted the many fine Americans who serve this country.

    IF, Norm really is 21Forme, then many posters that support his forum (like Frieghter, Midwest Player, and Zee) are indirectly ask to leave by 21Forme and The Refinery. The old saying, "don't bite the hand that feeds you" is looking to be the case here. Just like the post he deleted that insulted Veterans of War.

    IF, Norm is not 21Forme, then he should be banned immediately and permantly for making such an assnine statement about those who proudly serve our country and have paid the price. You're a piece of shit 21Forme and I'd be more than happy to say it to your face. IF you'd only take your head out of the sand.

    ...And now he closed the thread. Shrewd move. Head back in sand.

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    Originally Posted by mopakarim2100 My answer to you: Stop obsessing over short term results. If one day or one trip makes such a difference to you, either play more or quit altogether.

    The Refinery:
    What in the heck goes on here? That's what 21forme posted. This place is weird. (The Internet, I mean.)

    Just another puppet name change. 2nd post. Bye Bye 21foridiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by mopakarim2100 My answer to you: Stop obsessing over short term results. If one day or one trip makes such a difference to you, either play more or quit altogether.

    The Refinery:
    What in the heck goes on here? That's what 21forme posted. This place is weird. (The Internet, I mean.)

    Just another puppet name change. 2nd post. Bye Bye 21foridiots.
    Let's hope Procol Harum isn't a Whiter Shade of Pale.

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    21 Forme writes:

    Part-time recreational players don't need no stinkin' software!

    What an ass nine comment! Maybe you're not Norm. But it's for certain you're not normal. That's like saying JV players or benchwarmers don't need to spend more time at the gym or the park shooting hoops and working to improve their game. Those are the ones that need it more than ever.

    I'm telling you Norm. You should ban this miserable two faced fuck. He does your forum no good service whatsoever! Have a smoke and a doughnut and go back to chasing variance.

    IF the Zee's of the world had the software and actually used it? They'd stop filling up the forum with dumb ass questions. Then you could get on with deeper discussion which also you hate and put on ignore. You're a piece of work!


    Freighter writes; Bingo. The overall ramp should be greater, divide the overall by 2, each half should be its own individual ramp, and mix them up. The bankroll should be strong. A few other tricks, but that’s the general idea.

    You lost me on the word overall. Divide the TC by 2? Your normal bet for that TC? The number of hands played? Or a rotation of all 3? Also, what constitutes this move? Heat? Screwing with the dealer? Or others at the table?

    Maybe you want to keep it private. But here is where players could actually learn something of vital importance. Just saying it's a far more interesting topic of discussion than 50 posts on how to get from the Denver airport to Central City.
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    21Forme writes:

    Yes. I've been doing this a long time and can count and carry on a coherent conversation at the same time. I can count down 2 tables simultaneously. It gets difficult for me to count 2 tables simultaneously while maintaining a side count.

    O crap. Here you go with this old yarn again. I will defer to Freighter. Even if counting two tables could be done. It can't be simmed. But I'm curious. Which carries more logic with shoes. 1.) Playing with Wong Halves and side counting the Ace or keeping perfect insurance. That can be simmed. 2.) Looking between bodies and jumping back and forth between tables with Hilo. Hell, I can't even see that cards at another table with no bodies in between. How is this going to look to the EITS? Whoa I'm RC +6 here but RC +14 next door. I think I'll move. Two rounds later. Crap I'm even here and still RC +6 over there. I think I'll move back.

    On the flip side. 21Forme cannot carry on a coherent conversation on a forum. Two lines at best. How the hell is he going to do it in a casino while counting cards, chain smoking, and slamming down jelly donuts?

    Talk about multi tasking!










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    21Bosox:
    Bosox - you're referring to someone who is seriously mentally ill and has no life other than his fantasy forum life, as evidenced by the short time span from original post to his copying it to the site where he talks to himself. Hard to believe he's really an adult with all the junior high style name calling. If he is an adult, he probably has all his worldly possessions in a shopping cart under an overpass in that biggest little dump in the world, so there really is no financial recourse. Best thing to do is just ignore the loser. He thinks he has an audience, but the post count is elevated by bots, not people.

    Actually, I have a good life. You have a lot to say when you think no one can respond. Like most, I don't like cock suckers, and cock sucker lovers, like you, are even worse. Seems to me, since you do have an account here at Zen Zone, that you have a issue of being a big pussy.

    I could care less about bots. That's your little deal. Not mine. However, I have noticed several lurkers join BJTF and are not afraid to stand up to you anymore. Flash is gone. Or is that you? Another puppet?

    You don't know me. Trust me, you don't want to know me. So stop trying to act like you do. But it would be my pleasure to go nose to nose with you whenever you find any guts. I WILL prove your accusations wrong. You've got something to say? Stop being a coward and come on over and say it. When I was at BJTF, you put me on ignore. Now, NOW you want to talk your shit? Bring it on dumb fuck.

    Like you're an adult with all you junior high hiding. I call you whatever I can to get you to face up to your words. Tell me, have you been a pussy your whole life? OR did that just start when you got fat and old?
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    Xengrifter. Fine by me if you want to close up shop. I would hope you don't simply because 21Forme told you to. He is the biggest pussy in NYC. Anytime you're feelin a little froggy 21forgay just jump right on the Moses Express. I will beat you so bad that your ancestors will claim they don't know you.

    Have another doughnut, you're in training.

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    So you've got more to say? You have an account right here. Speak up coward. The only thing "running" is your mouth and you from me.

    That fear you refuse to face will gnaw away at you until there is nothing left. And you never had much to begin with.

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