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    Default VCT, BJTF = The WWF and mental midgets

    WTF are you crying about, you're still here aren`t you?....I think what most normal people found weird is the incessant cyber-head one male continuously gave (and still does) to another male....I`m sure Moses enjoyed it tho....I seriously doubt that weirdo has been with a woman in decades

    Keystone writes to Bob 21:

    This is a perfect example of dumb ass quotes by mental midgets. Now, Blitzer you're a fiery sort of guy. So let me ask you. 1) What does this have to do with gambling...in Las Vegas? 2.) How does this not incite someone? I mean normal people don't go around talking like this. Sure, you get those guys rubbing poop in their hair and wearing their underwear outside their pants. The guy has never met me or will ever have the guts to meet me. I'd drop him like a bad habit.
    3.) So what is the point of these small minded people?

    Now, he was pulling this stuff with me when at VCT. So I PMed and he turned into a real pussy cat very quickly. So let me get this straight. On a forum, one can pretty much accuse or say whatever they want? That's right or okay. But if someone calls them out on it and challenges them to say it to their face? That's wrong and not okay.

    So IF I say Blitzer you're a real pussy and a lousy poker player? I'm cool. But if you respond, fuck you Moses, you don't know me and I'll kick your ass if you got the nuts to say it to my face? That's not cool.

    IT doesn't work that way in the real world KJ and his clown clones! Not that it matters, but unlike Keystone, the very idea of a man giving me head as never entered my mind. As for my lady? Yes, she is very attractive. As to how often? Not that is any of your business. But let's put in this way. If the light turns green I'm driving through the intersection.
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    Btw, Moses is a very compassionate human being. How many people do you know who lends their phone to a homeless person (I think that’s who Moses said tater is) so they can make posts on the internet?

    Bob 21 writes ^?

    I'm curious Bob. Why not just get on this site and ask me? You guys have been rambling on about me for 4 days. What is the matter? You've got nothing better to do with your time or nothing else to talk about?

    It's becoming clear that VCT is simply a branch of BJTF.

    Anyway, Bobby (Tater) is what one might call a homeless AP. He simply doesn't want the costs of ownership or renting. He prefers to sleep under the stars. He is sort of a throwback to the old Midwest cowboy generation. The guys I get together with a couple of times a week to watch games come from all walks of life. Lou is a multi millionaire who lost his wife. Most others fall in between those two guys. I could care less about peoples status in life which seems to be so vital to those on a forum.

    For example, these guys were watching the Central Michigan Chippewas. The conversation evolves from someone asking the name of the mascot to a group discussion about various Indian tribes for the duration of the game. So I would read them forum posts sometimes for entertainment. Zee would have us all rolling.

    When I got banned they still wanted to know what was going on. BJTF format is different is you're search as a lurker vs being signed up. So we signed up Bobby (Tater) to use my cell and gmail. Then they could get on either with my phone, Bobby's phone, are someone else's. I can't explain how Bob does it, but he gets a lot of free stuff. His phone number is constantly changing.

    It became a he said this, how should I respond group discussion. Not good for me because I wanted to go watch the games a couple of times a week to get away from the forum and blackjack. I started to get overwhelmed by it all. So I took some of it back over. Lesson learned.

    Eventually, they forgot about, like I'm sure the Keystone Cop will as well.
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    When Moses was a member at the BJTF he often spoke about his lady friend who people mistake for Sandra Bullock.

    Bosox writes:

    Well, that is not totally correct. I thought she must have been like a News lady or something when we met. There was one time we'd got on this escalator the goes the goes 3 floors. We were going down. A group of young ladies were coming up. They were staring at her. As passed, one said "one said OMG, you're may favorite actress." My lady friend "smiled, and said Thank you." I'm like so you're an actress? She said "no, but what else was I going to say as we passed"?

    Shortly thereafter, we were having drinks in a casino listening to live music. A couple of young ladies come up and ask her for her autograph. Now, with loud music it was hard for her to explain to them she was a regular person. However, stupid me, has to ask the girls who they thought she was? They said Sandra Bullock.
    My lady got sorta pissed at me. So I ask why. She replied "I wanted them to say Carrie Underwood."
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    Lol...I think Reggie Bullock is more likely than Sandra for that loudmouth hobbit

    Keystone writes ^:

    See what I mean? Always trying to incite. Never the balls to back up. What a pathetic contribution to a forum...and society. Truly a Key Stoned cop.

    Time for me to go compete. I hope the mental midget loser can get along without me for few hours. Try your hand instead of humping your laptop.
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    Whoa. Y'all took Moses to the 100 post mark today. Very Impressive.

    Bosox: That was 8 years ago. Mr Happy still comes out to put a smile on our face.

    Bob: Glad you had a good weekend on the tables. FWIW. I wouldn't use column count in your game either. Best used for deep pen straight up.

    MaxiPad and Keystoned Cop. You guys look like Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam going up against Singer.
    Thooo. Why don't we kick Moses' ass? Hmmm. Because you're both a couple of pussies?

    RS: You have the right to "Remain Silent" but you won't have the ability. Instead you'll say something "Really Stupid." That's why they call you RS. No?


    MaxiPAd writes; Why don't you leave VCT and go suck his dick over there? Hmmm: Raise your hand if you think MAxiPad has got a lot of quit and queer in him.

    So MaxiPAd, do you ever watch porn?

    Ya, I watch porn.
    Do you like to watch two guys?
    No, I only watch a guy and a gal.
    So do you want the guy to have a little teenie weenie?
    No, I like it when the guy has a great big co
    See... I told you MaxiPAd was queer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post

    RS: You have the right to "Remain Silent" but you won't have the ability. Instead you'll say something "Really Stupid." That's why they call you RS. No?

    Moses is a certified nutjob, just rambling on and on, writing to himself.

    If I were Dan, I’d unban Moses for a few hours in the morning & let him make like 50 posts, get his hopes up, then delete all his posts and re-ban him. He’d be absolutely devastated, moreso than he is right now.

    RS writes ^:

    I knew you wouldn't let me down. Moses is a prophet. He can even predict now when you're about to say something stupid. Yes, that would really screw up my life.

    You're an absolute moron. I notice you always post late at night after you get home from you job of being a pole dancer at the bar KJ and his clowns hang out. Trouble is you look like Norm. The one on cheers.
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    Whoa! What is this about trying to stir the pot? I have no interest in seeing anyone get in trouble. I believe in second chances. Many times I went to bat for you to try to get Norm to lift your ban. The last time I tried I got a one week suspension from Norm. So yes, I believe Moses should be given a second chance also.

    Moses doesn't need or want any 2nd chances at either site.

    This site is a little different than Norm's as Dan has said it is pretty hard to get banned here. Norm has always run a tight ship. Norm would never put up with all the shit that goes on here. I have tried to help Moses many times and warned him what would happen if he continued his threats. I don't know why Moses thinks fisticuffs is the answer to anything especially something posted on an internet forum. A real man would walk away from trouble.

    My issue at BJTF was clearly with Flash who is an arrogant drunk son of a .... He even brags about it. He threatened me first with T3, the great motorcycle gang ass kicker. Now, in real life, you can't run. IF you do, they will chance. In business, if you're soft then people will take advantage of you. This doesn't mean a person has to go around being an ass hole all the time like Flash. But one must have that capability in them unless you choose to spend your life hiding out in a cave.

    Now I do think you over reacted by going to the police with this, but certainly that is you right if you felt threatened. However, you situation is a lot different than Norm's who I feel had every right to ban Moses. Moses was not only threatening him on the internet, but actually called him up 3 times and threatened him.

    Norm deleted those posts which is why I called him. I wanted to know more about what the hell was going on with Flash and the email he was sounding out to several members as a blanket to all. It easily identified certain members...which allowed me to contact T3 directly. T3 wanted no part of the whole threatening thing. I seriously doubt he ever beat up any bikers. Norm claims he doesn't know Flash and has never even met him. I find that hard to believe because Flash said they were great buddies and had known each other for years.

    Hmmm. Maybe I should go to the Cyber police.

    You're spending way to much time snowed in. I never threatened Norm on his forum. I got just as mean and nasty with Flash as he wanted to be with others and me. Y'all are getting way over dramatic. In short, "if you can't/won't back your words then don't say anything." That is the way of the world. "But prepared for the worse even when you say nothing." That is the way of here.


    Norm has posted under his real name and has made no secret where he lives. Your have never disclosed your real name and there are millions of people who come and go each year from Vegas. The odds of Moses ever finding you are extremely small, and really why would he ever want to for some silly thing posted on the internet unless he is completely nuts.

    KJ isn't smart enough to know when to shut up. He not only puts so much out there, then leaves a trail, and constantly tells others where to find and follow his trail.

    For me to drive Vegas and find KJ, I'd have to be really motivated. However, I am somewhat curious to watch from a distance and see if KJ can really count two tables and navigate under radar with all his wild swings. Your friend describes him as a monstrous liar. I tend to take his word for it.

    I'm not the guy KJ should worry about. It's the local lurkers that read forums he has probably screwed over in Vegas with all his ranting about unfair casinos and bragging about his game prowess and financial rewards. All anyone would have to do is walk into El Cortez management and show them copies of his posts on 3 different forums. There is a connection throughout and between casinos. Then he might get introduced to unfriendly sorts behind the scenes from casinos. They DO exist and ARE capable of shutting someone up.

    I don't see how KJ has done his blackjack playing buddies any favors.

    KJ wanted to be a star
    Well, now you are
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    Speaking of talking to himself, I wonder if Freddy and Moses are cousins.
    JBJB writes ^:


    You guys do realize you've now resorted to talking about me on the "Weather" thread. What a group of clowns!

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    ..Just more of Moses tall tales and BS....I have no doubt he may spend alot of time in casinos, but not gambling....25% of his time is spent scouring the floor for discount food coupons, and the other 75% is him and his boyfriend Tater giving eachother hobo hand-jobs under the table
    Keystone writes ^;

    Dan Druff; You're very inconsistent. How is this okay to say? And you put a restriction on me? Hmmm. Speaking of hand jobs. Take out the trash Dan. Ban Keystone and MaxPen. Then, you'd have a good forum.

    The Keystoned cop is not very brave. But you make up for it with stupidity. So you think you're a better man than Tater? I will take that bet in a heartbeat. You think you can afford to be the house against me in blackjack? I will take that bet in a heartbeat. You've got sick assed thoughts running through your demented mind. None of which you have any intention of ever backing up. Anytime - anywhere mouth. Keep hiding rabbit ass.

    You folded like a cheap suit in the PM. Remember? Now you have a lot to say when you know I can't respond? Take it away Bob. Keystone cop has to be the most gutless person on the face of the earth. Prove me wrong?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SydKgkVUS7U
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    The other 195 remaining hits are from Tater. Although every time he hits one he reads it again and again and thinks they are all different. Later when he sees Moses he says to him Moses you sure have a way with words.

    Bosox writes ^:

    Yep, you got me. You got the Tater. Now go stick up for your little queer friends. Whatever you need to face life in masking your true self on a forum.

    MaxPen and Keystone; I don't know if your invalids, flat out queer, or simply chicken shits on a forum afraid of your own shadow. Evidently it gives you some kind of something to feel a purpose. If you ever get tired of looking in the mirror at one of the weakest persons on earth and want to test yourself? I will not be hard to find. Unlike you squirrels. Until then....

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    As far as I'm concerned Tater is Moses. Maybe there is someone named Tater, but Moses does all the posting for him or tells him what to post. In fact, Tater described over at blackjackinfo an incident where he helped someone with tools falling out of a van. Moses claimed it was him in that same incident over at BJTF. Might as well just un-ban Moses now that KJ is gone.
    Midwest Player writes to Bob21:

    You have to post both quotes. Tater doesn't drive. I've given him a lift from time to time. Why in the blue fuck is it you think I'd want to come back to either VCT or BJTF? If something starts it I'm going to return it. Not worry about eggshells. Some stuff still goes on with me gone.

    This thread is even about all that. What is wrong with you two?

    MWP, you better not go around saying that there is no Tater. Before you know it you will be challenged to play Tater for black chips with Moses backing. Be forewarned, now this is just a rumor, but, I hear that Tater is the second best single deck blackjack player in Nevada. The only reason they challenge posters to play them is because they are flat bet for $10 everywhere in Reno
    Oh yes, I think I remember an old post from Tater where he said, Win today. Play Tomorrow. So I'm not sure who deserves the credit, or not for the saying, or its full meaning. All I know is whether or not they won or lost yesterday they still are getting free hot dogs today in the sports book.

    Ain't you dumb shits got nothin better to do than sit around knocking a homeless guy? Tater, is an excellent handicapper. Practically a walking google in sports. If you ask him who won the Stanley Cup in 1982 and 1988, it's likely he will tell you, and tell you what he was doing on that day. He has a great mind for sports logic, so yes, I have ran my theories by him. His eyes don't begin to circle into the back of his head like yours would. So he is able to provide some feed back.

    Unlike me, he places no value on money whatsoever. He will have enough for coffee at McD this morning and always has a bus pass. He will probably peak at $200 to $300 for the day and end up broke at the end.

    For me, money is the core and everything else rotates around it. Tater has offered to be the dealer if one of you numbskulls ever decide to put your money where you mouth is. But I get it. You like it SAFE where no one can respond. Win today Play tomorrow is a very common phrase. Maybe I invented it. Of course, play 3 days this summer, and shovel my roof all winter doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

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    Win Today - Play tomorrow; In sports bets, it means don't bet a game unless you'd be willing to bet those same circumstances tomorrow even IF you lost today. A perfect example is the guy who had the college bowl pick of the season. Yes, it was a good pick and very logical. The problem is he'd blown his money on earlier games and only had $80 left to bet.

    In blackjack it means to play within casino tolerance. Don't worry about all that happy high school camouflage bullshit. Some days the EITS isn't even watching and the pit boss is contemplating their sports picks. KNOW this information. How do you find out? Shut up and listen. They will tell you. Always compete to win. One will still lose even at that.
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    It's like coach belly says -- if you're going to insult people from an anonymous internet position, and refuse to meet them in person, then you're not a real man. Right, coach? I completely agree with coach belly on this. Kudos to coach for pointing this out.

    Redietz writes:


    If one doesn't incite. There is no fight. Dan seems to ignore the incite and rule on fights. Fix the pipe. Stop the drip.
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    That’s the $64,000 question. There’s a lot of debate on this forum on who he is. Moses says he’s his homeless friend who uses his phone to post. This makes sense to me since most homeless people don’t have their own phone.

    There are some cynical people here who believe Tater is Moses. They have pointed out similarities of some of the phases both Moses and Tater use.

    Long story short, Tater has not been banned here, but Moses has. Here’s the problem. For Tater to post here, he’d probably have to use Moses phone, which obviously wouldn’t allow him to post here.

    As far as me, I believe. I believe Tater is Moses friend who could contribute here. When Tater posted on BJTF, he made a lot of quality posts...and he’s quite a character on top of that.

    So there you have it. That’s all I know about the Tater. I know it’s not much, so I’d like to get to know him better. Thus, my question. Can we find a way to allow Tater to post here?

    Okay Bob. Let me try to give you the $64k answer.

    There was a group of us that would sit together in A sportsbook. Downtown is a mess. Best to be avoided. They enjoyed some of the reading at BJTF. They watch a football game with the Central Michigan Chippawas playing and end up spending the entire game looking up on their cell phones and discussing Indian tribes.
    Hence, short attention spans. Loads of bull shit.

    So when I was banned at BJTF I used my cell phone gmail to set up an account for Tater or Bob which isn't actually his real name either. It's a nickname I gave him. Stands for Big Ole Boy. Now, everyone calls him Rob, Robert, Bob, Bobby, Boberino etc etc. B sports book remodeled and decided to take out the trash. The trash then went to A sportsbook. I went to B. So I rarely see Bob anymore because one can now get in all kinds of shit at A. The last time I saw him was around Christmas time when I took him a gift card for McD, Found myself in all sorts of shit in about 30 minutes. Haven't been back since because, even though I like Bob, the worst of both sportsbooks are now clustered at A and B is ultra nice...and peaceful. Bob is no longer allowed in B. He cleaned house one night a few years ago and was banned.

    Now, I learned that by giving Bob that account, it began to take up way too much of my time. Every time I went in to A, there would be a discussion. One time Freighter drilled his ass which was funny. So I'm not going to put myself in that position again. Hence, "he said this, what should I say back" and then get input from 6 different guys.

    Steve, for instance, would be a good contributor at VCT. But he will have to find out about it on his own. Otherwise, he will be coming after me for Q and A sessions. I will end up telling him what to say to dip shit morons like MAxiPAd. And then the roof shovel guy from Wisconsin will think it's me all over again. In the words of Norm, "I don't have time for that."

    Locker room humor. Bob played football in HS and JC. So yes, our humor is probably similar. I can't remember who came up with what, but it's usually an "on the fly' sort of thing.
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    Tater, started making fewer and fewer post at the forum and was enjoying longer, and longer phone conversations with Sandra. One day she met him for a beer in sportsbook A, and like anything else in Reno news travels fast, and the inevitable confrontation insued. First they went out back to square off and both men grabbed a two by four out of a dumpster and looked each other in the eyes waiting. Rather than both getting pummeled they decided instead to play house and player blackjack. Moses won $23. and went to Mc D and purchased a $25 gift card and ended up giving it to Tater with the understanding that he would not be buying burgers for his buddys girlfriend.

    Bosox writes:

    What a dumbass! It wouldn't take much to drop your silly ass. Leave you for 82 year old Lou. What you're afraid Norm will get pissed if you post over here? Why is everyone so afraid of Norm?

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