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    I'm glad I still have your attention Keystone. I admit you wouldn't find me at all funny in person. You'd find Tater downright disgusting when he rips off your head and then shits in the hole and then wipes with your toupee. Relax, cyber police, that is a joke. Tater wouldn't actually DO that! But then, Keystone, you are a NOTHING. Words on a forum is like your crush on KJ. They are worthless if you don't have the guts to do anything about them.

    Bulb writes to Bosox: Btw, you somewhat contradicted yourself here and in your recent post about me on BJTF. You also called me “cagey”. Thank you! I’ve never been called cagey before.

    Great now we have cagey (bulb) vs ragey (KJ). You can call me Moses, or you can call me Bob. or you can call me Tater. or you can call me DBS. But you doesn't have to call me Cagey.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n9YX1Xfw4

    And btw, thank you reposting some of my posts I made on blackjackinfo. Those are some of my better ones. They should probably be nominated for some top ten posting award. Do any forums do that anymore?

    First prize on VCT is to get banned. Sorry, cagey, I already won...it wasn't even close. However, 2nd prize is an all expense paid date with KJ to visit the cyber police. 3rd prize was something about a date with Keystone's pet pig Miss Piggy. Arnold Ziffel won and now Keystone is all but hurt. So, he really wants a date with KJ.

    Bosox writes: I will say something about you Bob21, it is people like you that are responsible for silencing the more knowledgeable posters and subsequently driving them off the boards. Of course, it is always the new players starting out who pay the price.

    That's a very large stroke you've painted with your brush. Name 5 knowledgeable posters that cagey has driven away. Freighter, simply doesn't like him. But I hardly think "cagey" drove him away. Again, with the newbies. WTF. IF they can't surf a forum. Lord help them when they arrive in a casino. Huh, well I was doing okay and then I went on a BJ forum and cagey fucked up my mind with Mindplay and I lost $29K in a week. Legions = 2 guys with 4 sock puppets each.

    Cagey replies; Btw, I saw you got a lot of unhelpfuls when you made that attack against me on BJTF. It appears I have some fans over there (NO) or nobody cares for you(probably). Either way, it doesn’t make you look good, but I’m pretty sure you’re used to it by now (doubt it).

    Whoa! Talk about your lightning rounds. Let's go with No, Probably, doubt it for $200 Alex. I mean Axel.

    Cagey replies. If I’m really doing that, that’s a good thing. Thank you for your compliment! You continue to praise me. Please stop! My heads about ready to explode. Lol.

    Well, don't feel like the Lone Ranger. Poor Blackhole and Karl just busted a spring. Even Mr. Tucker is a might put out...and nothing usually bother him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEjP3UC8zfE



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    Bosox and his nerds with words they will never back up.

    Firstly, the saying goes. "You don't understand money until you've earned and saved your first million after starting with 0. You don't understand life until you've lost your first two million." Now, as for losing $29K in a week? KJ idiot did it sitting at a blackjack table hand by hand for a week in the prime of his life when his earning power is at the highest potential. And then spend the next 5 months trying to get back to even. The former is likely. The latter is not. Why? Because he spends most of his time on forums. When does he have time to play 100k hands a year if game selection is a priority?

    Let me know when you've put 3 kids through college, bought them cars while in high school, houses while in college, and they are all making 6 figures "working" for a living. Not ranting around on some blackjack forum like some queer halfwit dipshit tough guy, that calls out Coach Belly and doesn't show. Then runs from me to the cyber police like your boy toy KJ.

    Translation Bob 21 from Bosox ramble-ation at VCT: Bosox needs to lay off the sauce. No?
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    Default Freighter Speaks:

    Bosox
    I see you’ve generated your own negative fan club. Of course, the naysayers deny your most accurate analysis by means of their negative votes, almost akin to holocaust deniers.

    In any event, the ongoing saga continues, and one must keep abreast of differing commentary within the trilogy of forum sites, reporting to the masses from different perspectives. Further, though not a fan of the ZZ, Moses, from my unbiased perspective, should certainly be recignized on his somewhat unusual, though unique perspectives. My comments should not be construed as endorsement of his commentary. His posts certainly provide humor value.

    Freighter: I learned from the best my friend. Meaning you. Probably the most important lesson I learned is not to take the game too serious. IT's supposed to be fun. These guys take forums so serious. Imagine what they must be like with cards and money in front of them? No wonder the boy toy has had two heart attacks before his mid-30's.

    Here is the 2nd most important thing I learned from Freighter. When you've got game, there is no reason to be so serious. Hence, the game is won at the table not on the forum.

    "The game is won on the court not in the locker room. However, locker room humor is essential to get ready for a game. Hard to find humor when one is not prepared. Hence, preparation is key." Now watch Bosox fuck this up.
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    Great post Bosox! It’s good to see I’ve made it to the big time, getting my handle on a title of a BJTF thread. Boy, what an honor! Thank you! I thought all your comments were spot on. You called me “consistent” and “cagey”. Never been called “cagey” before, but I’ll take it. Thank you!

    Ahem. Slow down there Scooter. One home run does not put you in the Hall of Fame.

    As people know, I’m putting together my own bootcamp to make some spare money on the side. We all know how APs love those expensive bootcamps. One of things I’ll be covering in my bootcamp is how to ignore someone. I can see this is a major weakness with some APs. They get obsessed with someone they want to ignore but can’t find the power to go through with it. They’re drawn to these people like moths to light.

    Might want to try getting the boot a few times before you start a camp, there Cage. But you have point. The game is at the table. But too may AP's focus on trying to get in other peoples heads on these forums. You are not excluded from this statement. My purpose is really about pushing back so as not to let anyone in my head. Hence, I will run the fuck out of a muck with you.

    21forme is a classic example.
    Just as he was obsessed with Zee, he’s become obsessed with me, and pretty much makes a post every time he sees my name. 21forme, if you decide to come to my bootcamp, I’m going to give you a 50% discount because you really need help in this area. Instead of $5,000, you’ll only have to pay $2,500. I think you’ll find it well worth your time and money. You’ll be the first to know when I have the date nailed down. And by the way, you’re welcome for the discount.


    21 forme is the ultimate pussy. Might even be Keystone in disguise. Who knows? Who cares?


    I’m also going to have a section in my bootcamp for Bosox on how not to worship other people.
    It’s scary to see how infatuated he is with Freightman. And Bosox, I'm extending the same 50% discount to you. No need to thank me.

    Freighter is a learning tool. Don't miss that. Or do. Hell, I don't give a shit! lol All you got was a degree from F.U.C.K. Very commendable. You get my applause for that. Now, use it! Seriously, let me ask you Tater Tot. Do you want to be a blackjack player? Or an honorary member of the Debate Club? You're very good at debate. One of the best IMO.
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    Freighter, I'll tell you what it does having a slick troll on a board disrupting threads, it makes you want to throw your hands up in the air and say fuck the new players, let them learn the game on their own, as it is just not worth it.

    Bosox writes:

    Geezous Bosox. What is this? Another KJ rant? I do agree with "fuck the new players." If they can't learn on their own? They are in some serious shit. This game ain't for pussies. Running to LAs Vegas and turning queer in your mid 30s to play shoes is not the answer. Counting two tables and other monstrous lies I guess provide the warm fuzzy feeling for the Keystones of the world. Studying, using your tools to play a game of people with cards is the ONLY answer. Otherwise, everyone is just pissing into the wind.

    You can't fix stupid and you can't teach someone with entitlement issues. But on forums you have teachers with entitlement issues. How fucked up is that? Stop trying to save the blackjack world ya self righteous fuckhead's. Just play the damn game.

    Whoa... Norm closed the thread at 6 posts. The over/under was 50. That should send a message loud and clear to the way Norm now runs HIS forum. I'll applaud him for that. But future lines in Vegas will be adjusted considerably. No?

    Nice Bosox. Norm was clearly impressed.

    Maybe start a new thread with an apology. "I'm sorry Norm but DBS is a dick." That should fix the problem.
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    You know Pete if you were a more compassionate man you could have informed him that he could find a like-minded friend on the Zen Zone forum site to share lifes ups and downs.

    Bosox. IF you're referring to Tater? I'm glad it's been all sunshine and lollipops for you. But perhaps you've never lived or stood up for yourself in your life. Just wasted away in a cave. Personally, I've witnessed, first hand, you've got a whole lot of quit in you. Hmmm. Still yakking, right after you got a dose of reality and your ass literally handed to you at BJTF yesterday. OR are you just too stupid to realize it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    The ZenZoneForum is for the few and the proud Moses. People don't post a lot here because a lot of people don't know about the ZenZone, they run to mainstream websites thinking they will find an answer. The ZenZone is only known by the few. Most people who have never been here simply don't have an open mind and only see the world in black and white. That is why Moses.
    IF you're referring to Blitzer? Trust me, you don't want any part of that guy. Fat Bumble Bee? He'd make quick work of you as well.

    You're too chicken to come on this Island Bosox. Stay where it's safe. This place is no place for quitters and/or losers. You are both.
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    Moses, I was referring to you alone no one else, the reason being your constant shots at everyone, myself included. I like Fat Bubble Bee, and John Doe as I have enjoyed engaging them both in threads on other boards. Blitzkrieg, his posts are enjoyable to read, but I have no desire to join another board, and I do not care what reason that you think I will not.

    Well then say so you friggin wimp. That is exactly how shit gets started from generalizations. You confused the shit out of poor Tasha. Now, you have to go apologize to her again. and insulted Parhump Pete. Just saying your comments are not well received at VCT and you're confusing the shit out of everyone by being a wimp. You've clearly crapped in your own corn flakes at BJTF. NFL at VCT IMO. No?

    My life? I couldn't be any happier. So how does a halfwit moron from Boston think he knows so much about me? Have you been using Norm's crystal ball again?

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    Default Norm writes

    Who cares what happens on other forums?

    You, above all people, should care Norm. For one thing, people post some vile stuff about you. For another, certain posters give forums a bad name in general.

    Ask the average person who has read a forum? The response is "oh, I stay the hell away from them, they are all nonsense." It's no different in another business. IF your competitors are ripping off the public with lies and deception, then it makes the honest guys job just that much harder. Soooo, send in your best cats to get rid of the rats. No?


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    Default Mickey Crimm writes:

    Some of you might find this strange but I never hated Rob Singer. I trolled him because he trolled me. I can take it and dish it. I was in a lot of street fights/bar room brawls in my younger days. But win, lose or draw, I never held a grudge. When a man called a ceasefire I honored and respected it. I became friends with a lot of men where when we first met we got in a fight. If Rob is calling a ceasefire then I respect that.

    Probably most are not going to understand what you're saying. Typically, street/bar fights occur because one person is running their mouth and another decides to close it. Many times, all is forgotten shortly thereafter. I had an ugly situation with a guy a few months ago for picking on elderly gents for money. He later apologized. I still see him around. No harm. No foul.

    But on a forum, one can run their mouth forever and never face the consequences. Thus why a forum moderator must be the ref and not put his head in the sand.

    Reading between the lines is a sign of discernment. I never had a problem with either MickeyCrimm, Rob Singer, Redietz, Bob21, or Blackhole even though they were on separate sides of the ledger. Even though I don't know a thing about machine play, I'm familiar with competition and winning. I thought they all carried knowledge in the most important aspect, which is LIFE. Plus a great sense of humor.

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    Default Rob writes:

    To dispel all the hot air nonsense flowing out of kew's twisted mind, after you understand the play you will also understand why I waited until now to talk about it. The reason is valid and solid and you will agree. It it not something like kew wants it to be and for his usual biased and dumb reasons.

    BTW kew....are you aware that what you call my "mathematically impossible vp strategy claims" is wrong on two counts? First, I used it for (again) for 4 years straight enabling a $375k net profit. Is that not your precious "long term". 150-200 sessions? And....if you had any mathematical acumen in that wimpy body of yours at all, you'd understand that my strategy IS mathematically possible of producing a consistent profit. Go ahead, get with redietz. Go visit as many university math professors as you can find, ask them, then report back. Then wise up dopey.

    Hey, if you can do it, then more power to you Rob. You do realize you're debating something you know can be done with a Queertard and with a HS level education. Don S summed KJ and his "math" up best recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    As Don S put it:
    You have a different understanding of my comments than you ought to. You read a single article, which you now take as the Holy Grail, and have decided that, because someone wrote something that you've interpreted as you see fit, it applies to every human being on the face of the earth, and THAT's just plain ignorant.
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    KJ writes:
    Mr. Argentino/Singer, I did not attack you personally. I didn't know who you were when I came here, despite that we both were at WoV at some point (I don't think the same point, but I could be wrong as I didn't read all topics at that time). When I came to this forum, and Axel made a joke about my sexuality, you began attacking me on day 1. Not joking, but viciously attacking. And that had nothing to do with any AP/gambling discussion.

    Poor poor KJ. Always the victim. Is there anyone in your AP world that doesn't know you're Flame-Boy-Nat? Get a grip queertard.

    THE SINGER PLAY.

    7 one or two line sentence posts and then here comes queertard to write his little ranting booklets. At the end of his rant he writes.

    I mean really, we are to believe this went on for 10 years? Am I missing something?

    Queertard is missing a lot of things. His sanity, his manhood, wisdom, class, education, courage, girls...I could go on and on.

    Dan this is an embarrassment to your forum. You might as well change the forum name to Queertard Rides Again. New nonsense everyday.

    Rob, repeat these words. "I apologize to everyone at VCT who swallowed my line of bullshit and were offended. Except for queertard." Maybe that will shut boytoy up.

    Rob replies: Kew, mickey put that up as a joke.

    Geezous, queertard. Is there no depth to your stupidity?
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    Default Revisiting the Singer claim & timeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post

    Rob replies: Kew, mickey put that up as a joke.

    Geezous, queertard. Is there no depth to your stupidity?
    Evidently not. C'mon Dan. Even ruthless hunters put sick animals out of their misery. KJ is making a mockery of your forum. Ridiculous boy toy rants.

    KJ, you went to all that work of putting up a timeline and no one cares in the first place. It's a joke...and you're a joke. Don't you have some variance to go chase or something?

    How do you make $100k when 90% of your day is spent on a forum? What in the world types that much into a cell phone in a casino? A queertard. That's who.

    After KJ writes;
    I am going to say a few things and then I am done with the subject.

    He made 6 long posts in a hour today. 9 yesterday. 5 Sunday. and 8 leading up to it on Saturday. You must be so proud of how queertard is running your forum Dan.

    Now which of the Rob Singers / Harry Argentino is this talking? The Guy afraid he will be attacked so he lashes out first or the "real" Rob Singer / Harry Argentino that is really the complete opposite a kind loving person? Admittedly I seem to have a lot of trouble with these multiple personality people, which seems to be a trait of certain negative members of the gambling community. I gotta go to work.

    Make that 7 and counting. KJ only has one personality. A full blown moron queertard. It's the other things he lacks. Education, courage, sanity, class. Not knowing how to shut up and stop looking like a complete dumbass. Work? I thought you were a PRO chasing variance. Who would hire you?

    Until then, you have a lot to learn, which is a common problem among your generation. And you won't find it at any blackjack table. You have trouble kew because to the majority of forum members you are only one person, and that is the anonymous person you've chosen to form, shape, and detail for all your own reasons.

    Well said Rob. It's getting hard to watch you continue to beat this little twerp senseless with every one of his stupid rants and nonsense replies. Almost sad really. Maybe he will fall down at work today and break his mouth.
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    Smurgerburger writes:
    Supposedly Axel knows the correct sequence because he knows someone who used it. (Or something like that, apologies if I got the details wrong).
    I do think Rob's description of the sequence is quite believable. It makes sense, although it's simple enough that I would have expected knowledge of the bug to go viral. As to the issue of whether Rob is telling the truth, I don't know and honestly don't care. The bug is interesting, the legalities are interesting, the best way of exploiting the bug is interesting.

    Whether some guy on the internet is telling tales or not is not interesting except to people that have some kind of personal rivalry with him.

    Take note of Smurg's words Dan Druff. You have some interesting topics such as your pro picks for instance. Unfortuantely, you have readers who constantly tune into KJs rants with whomever he has a personal rivalry going. Norm and Shack were smart enough to realize getting rid of all the people wasn't the answer. But getting rid of KJ was the ONLY answer. KJ will ALWAYS have a personal rivalry and IT will always be about HIS feelings which get hurt. NO ONE WANTS TO READ THAT SHIT!

    Rob Singer writes: Bob21: as I've said, I waited a full 10 years because I'm a very cautious person.

    Most people in their 70s are cautious. That's how they got to be in their 70's.

    KJ writes: But it is kind of funny that Rob is using this "everyone is against me" defense as to why some people aren't convinced, when he went out of his way for 20 years to make sure members of this community and the various forums disliked him. Just weird.

    KJ. You're life evolves in fantasy world. At least Rob has some personality and humor. You have neither. Just a sad queertard on a rant trying to find a purpose. THAT's weird. Even MickeyCrimm and Axel are sick of your nonsense. You've completed step one which is admitting you have an addiction.

    Now GO get some help and STOP making a fool of yourself.
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    Default Rob Singer and MickeyCrimm

    You guys are proof the cream always rises to the top. But the cheese is sliding completely off Queertards cracker. Just put him on ignore. I think you two are the only ones reading and replying to his nonsense.

    Rob writes to KJ: This is even funnier! You got nothing right in your last set of lies.....and you got even less right this time. Even after I made a half dozen corrections for you! Now I know--Im dealing with a stupid person!!

    1.) HE is like a child starving for attention. Evidently, his mom must have gave his brother all the attention. You are only enabling a junior high queertard.

    MickeyCrimm writes to KJ: WRONG AGAIN!

    Make that idiot. What else is new! When was he ever right about anything?

    It looks like kew is prone to spinning and re-arranging words in an effort to make others LOOK bad to the readers, and so he FEELS better about things himself. Or maybe he just gets out of his mind when I'm involved. If he would settle down and make sense, he'd see all my earlier interactions, insults and bad mouthing I did with him were not actually real. But he is waaay too sensitive.

    It only gets worse. Right Norrm?

    He may just need a safe space for a while.
    Have him come visit me. I'll make sure he is safe.
    2.) You two do realize your trying to reason with queer who throws out logic. Hence, the word queertard.

    MickeyCrimm writes to KJ; You've literally gone off the deep end. Why?

    Ahem. See items 1 and 2 above.
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    Default More of Rob and the The Mickster

    Mick writes:
    KJ, your zeal to punish Rob is causing you to misrepresent to many facts. He never said he made more than 3 million and you can't, repeat, can't find a quote of that. And he said five and a half. Quit making up your own facts. You are literally clutching at straws.

    First, you throw out reason and logic.

    KJ writes: What the fuck is wrong with you mickey?

    Then you throw in monstrous lies and feminisms.

    You fucking little nit. When you get it in for someone you don't give a fuck who you insult. You're a crybaby little punk. This is exactly what I said in post #52 of the "Request for Mickey Crimm" thread, not "Question for Mickey Crimm." Do you even know you make mistakes like that?

    "It will be one of the biggest stories to ever hit the professional video poker world." You changed that to "Biggest story ever." There's a big difference between the two statements. Then you quoted me saying "bombshell" which I never said. In your lust to get Singer you don't give a rat's ass who you fuck over to do it. Kiss off, bitch.

    ...And what do you get?

    KJ writes: I am not going to waste any more time on this. post 409; He posts throughout. This is all I have to say and then I'll stop. Let me be brief, followed by 100+ lengthy diatribes and rants.

    Queertard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA1xgTTw9w

    Who the fuck cares?
    Let's go with almost no one for $500 Alex. I mean Axel.

    Could the - Dan, you run a shitty forum full of trolls, I'm leaving and never coming back, speech #29 be next,? If nature follows it's course? YES, just as soon as Queertard find a place to go. No one likes him or allows him except his mommy. Even his brother plays video games and hides from his stupid ass!

    Rob writes: Sure you can use all of the Government's regulations and casino rules as your own personal twisted logic to whine about me.
    BUT YOU LOOK STOOPID DOING IT

    Face it--you're sour and beside yourself over this. You're unable to make this all about you, you're super worried that your Internet life is taking a hit, so you're flailing.

    Quuertard rants post #412; And let me tell you one more thing about credibility. When someone chooses a handle, they build up credibility or lack of credibility on that handle. That is why most AP's use the same handle throughout the community. And why people that aren't credible or develop a reputation for trolling and being a game player create sock puppets and alternative handles. So they can hide. To Singer's credit he uses the Rob Singer handle (most of the time).

    Right on Spiderman!

    Know what I am talking about unowme? I wonder where coach belly is?

    Hmmm. I wonder who Unowme could be? Last I heard Coach Belly is waiting in Philly where you'd promised to kick his ass. Of course, Dan, that wasn't a threat of violence. KJ screamed when you saw a mouse so it kicked his ass for being too noisy.

    Goodbye. I am off to work. Thank goodness, Bus boy. Ever notice he has to announce it everyday? Like anyone gives a fuck.


    Not going to waste time with this crap today.

    Make those shitters shine. Insert head. Pull handle. Enjoy your swirly, Q-Tard!

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