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    I will come to LV and stand in front of you, then you will know who I am.
    Coach writes to MAxiPAd:


    Ditto. How ironic, didn't MAxiPAd just say that today? What goes around comes around!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SydKgkVUS7U

    So how come every time you feel trapped you pull out the opposite of homophobic card? Do you have any idea how much it's going to hurt when someone blasts you in the mug for that? It's going to make those kicks from camels you screw feel like a kiss. Now put your dress back down...no one want to see your MAxiPAd.

    Maxipad asks. Why do all the Tards have the same schtick?

    So ableism is your thing? I pretty sure anyone one would say "schtick it up your ass" on that one.
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    You have two sportsbooks A and B somewhat equal, and B decides to do a complete remodel, and when completed removes all the undesirables who now frequent A sportsbook. WHY THE FUCK DID THEY ALLOW MOSES TO STAY? Possibly because he periodically breaks up fights so he can be construed as a part time bouncer,"that works for free hotdogs" but, how many fights does he start himself? Is it because he looks like Errol Flynn and draws in the ladies? No, he most likely looks like Curley of the Three Stooges with no teeth. Maybe they like his sportbook betting? No to all of the above, it is because they are STUPID. I rest my case!

    Bosox writes:

    Man, you're a dumbass. I go into a sportsbook maybe twice a week to watch a game. I bet a large amount per game but very selective in the games I bet.
    The free hot dog/drink deal was 8 years ago. I have no idea if they still offer that or not. But there are always invites to big events with free food, drinks, giveaways, etc, etc. You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about because you've never been here. And if you ran your mouth the way you do on forums? You wouldn't last long.

    I've broken up 3 fights in 8 years. Those guys were outmatched. What would you have done? Stood by, watched them get their assed kicked, and go to the hospital? You'd probably jump in and help the guy who was winning. Hoping somehow, someday, somewhere you will find a friend.

    You're reaching to try to start something because you know you could never back up anything in the flesh. They pretty much ran you out of BJTF and now Bob is the only who will talk to you at VCT. LOSER!!!. You couldn't stand up to me the first time. You quit and made a tearful farewell, then reappeared.. What makes you think you can this time? You think Bob is the answer? Who you also trash talk? The only one you have left is KJ who has left the building. I guess Midwest Player and you can compare the amount of snow on your roof. But that's about it.

    You are writing about people you don't know, have never communicated with, in a thread that isn't even about me. Talk about a moron. And you're afraid to come on this site. Be a man. You pussy. What case are you resting? Clearly, no one gives a fuck about what you are saying.

    Try jumping in the middle of Coach Belly and see what happens. You won't because he lives too close to you and you really just want to start shit. Not finish it.
    Last edited by Moses; March 3rd, 2019 at 08:45 AM.

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    I deleted a bunch of troll posts and kicked coach, Rob, and blackhole from the thread.

    This is a good thread, don’t ruin it.

    Dan Druff writes:


    Good to see you actually do some work every now and then. So why not delete about 15 other useless threads that have absolutely nothing to do with Las Vegas? Then, you look like a legit forum. Btw, is wasn't Coach, Singer, and Blackhole who started the stuff. Someone started giving Alan crap after his hiatus. Odd you don't mention those names. You and Norm are birds of a feather.
    Last edited by Moses; March 5th, 2019 at 05:47 AM.

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    For all the whiners, crybabies, and such, go join zenzone. You can post anything and nobody will delete of censor you.

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    Good point. But Keystone best pack some bad ass in his luggage. Leave the wimp in you at VCT.

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    Bob 21: Dan, do you run zenzone too? I’m wondering if somehow a “wormhole” has developed between this site and Zenzone since Zenzone has basically become Moses’s site to communicate to us here. Even if you don’t run Zenzone this could be what’s happening.

    Wormholes are still not totally understood. For those that don’t know much about “Wormholes”, they connect things that are in different timespace dimensions. It could be that the energy between this site and Zenzone is so powerful (due to Moses presence over there and his fondness of posters over here) the two sites are starting to morph together.

    It’s not as crazy as it sounds. Remember Moses also parted the Red Sea. Now he’s creating wormholes. What’s next? I can’t wait.

    Hmmm. Sounds to me like Bob might be the one burning a little bush.

    Or it could be Normholes. HE probably isn't happy about my post yesterday. Just copy and paste it. That should fix the problem.

    Speaking of Worms: Is the monitor flashing Ban Key? Ban Key? There is your answer.

    Tasha writes; WOV is also doing something weird.

    Happy Birthday Tasha.



    Last edited by Moses; March 5th, 2019 at 08:00 AM.

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    And why are people still obsessing over Moses?

    People got their wish and now he is gone. For those who wanted him gone, why still talk about him? How many more threads should we dedicate to him? If we are going to keep talking about him we should just bring him back. It seems as if that's what people want if they are still bringing his name up.

    Axel writes:

    Smart man. I couldn't have said it better myself. But Moses is not coming back.

    Hmmm. Let's go with Dan needs more posts to carry his forum for $300 Alex. I mean Axel.

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    Blackhole writes: Just read these posts between BoBo, Bob21, and KewlJ. Can it get any more ridicules coming here to argue about other forums?

    Dan, please take all this garbage which is no different then trolling posts and dedicate a spot for them. Maybe something like “rejects from other forums trash talk.” After all you’ve done it several times already.

    I'm inclined to agree with Blackhole. However, VCT has the WOV thread (3,253 posts). Only UstonZen would read them all. In addition, constant interruptions about WOV in many other threads. Perhaps Dan needs to take a que from Norm and see that he has some work to do in order to clean up his forum. The one thing even more ridiculous is to continue to bait someone who cannot reply because a moderator felt someone else's words were better and banned them. It is sort of like hanging someone twice.

    Thus we have Zen Zone. Hence, freedom of speech or bring it the fuck on. It gives someone an opportunity to fight back against those who choose to run and hide.

    Seriously, if Dan bans KJ and Keystone, 90% of his problems would be solved. Norm banned KJ and his forum never skip a beat in spite of KJ's gay rants on any forum that would give him a platform. He also finally banned his other problem child Zen Master Flash and silenced T3 a great deal. So Norm's overall workload has now diminished considerably.

    That is why I've brought up and will continue to bring up old threads. So the cyber police can read for themselves KJ is far worse than the others he accuses. Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.

    Bosox. Since you worship KJ so much. Why don't you ask him to post the case number, detective, and phone numbers of the cyber police he alleges to be in such close contact with? Probably because KJ is a monstrous liar.

    Seriously, I do not understand why Bob21 and Bobo will not come here and address me directly. Afraid of Norm maybe? It appears both have worn out their welcome at BJTF. KJ has been banned or worn out his welcome on every forum except VCT and blackjackinfo. If he starts ranting at blackjack info like he does at VCT. HE won't last long in a forum that is practically dead anyway.

    Maybe Bosox should take his own advice and bring his problems with Bob 21 to Zen Zone. No?

    So a question Blackhole, a bit tongue in cheek. Suppose all this happens. What are you going to do with all your spare time?
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    Bob 21 writes to Blackhole: Agreed! We need our own place to go play in the mud. We shouldn’t pollute this realtive decent discussion on an interesting topic with our meaniless drival about handles.

    Ahem. Zen Zone. Consider it like taking forum talk to the parking lot.

    This shows how warped people become who’ve been APs too long. Kj and BOBO thought the biggest crime in the world is having a different handle on different forums.

    Create confusion to confound the understanding. KJ is 2nd only to Flash when it comes to handles.

    BOBO, the clown, took it so far as to attack me on a thread he started on BJTF. He needs help if he thinks anybody but him and KJ care.

    I Agree.

    I don’t even think his idol, Freightman, cares.

    I not only agree. I'd bet on it. However, speaking of handles. Only two posters in my recollection had issues with Freighter. DBS and UstonZen. So are you one in the same?
    Last edited by Moses; March 14th, 2019 at 08:45 AM.

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    Dan. KJ displayed about the worst tantrum possible today. I passed my phone around so others could see what he says on your sight. The biggest comment was that VCT didn't even read like a gambling forum. But rather some sick gay porn forum.

    It was good to get the input from others. KJ not only insulted heterosexuals but gays as well with his public display of absolute nonsense.

    Anyone who knew how to reach him direct would mess him up. Cyber police, if there is what your protecting against? Then there is certainly wrong in your service somewhere. The FCC or someone should intervene and TAKE ACTION against such a deplorable public display.

    Perhaps seek advice from Norm as to how to clean up your forum. He has done a good job of cleaning up his forum.


    KJ writes to Blackhole: You are free to not read. Even more preferably would be if you stopped breathing and just died already. You are basically dead already. A ghost. No one gives a shit about you or anything you say except a few other irrelevant, bitter Haters.

    Thank you for your interest in my sex life. I don't need to "find a big cock". Since you have expressed your interest, I have a fairly new "boyfriend" for lack of a better label. He doesn't have a big cock, but it is nice. Very cute. Very suckable, which generally is something I don't do all that much. I usually am more about received oral, but being that he is young and cute, I return the favor more that I usually do. Never for hours though. I am pretty talented when I put my mind to it, so it is more like a 10 minute exercise.

    Again, thanks for your interest. Anything else you want to know? Staring down the truth that one has been denying their whole life sometimes does that to people.

    Although in your case, it probably is just a symptom of cancer eating away at your decrepit old, failing body.

    Wow. Glad I'm not part of the cyber team. Next time he walked in to complain, I'd kick ass for saying such a thing to an elderly man.
    Last edited by Moses; March 14th, 2019 at 09:19 PM.

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    Bob 21 writes:
    Hey, I never said Moses was my hero, but there is a quality about him I like and respect. I can tell he’s a man who lives his beliefs and he doesn’t care what others think. And he’s from the Midwest, played sports, has a great sense of humor, has homeless friends, and he plays bj. What’s not to like?

    Let's be clear. I have a homeless friend. His name is Tater. As I have explained many times, Tater is a unique individual. There are many homeless I avoid because I'm a target as a result of my friendship with Tater. I had a helluva fight with a homeless drug dealer. I know, it's didn't make sense to me either.

    I do think Moses should tone down the threats, but his insults are some of the best material on the internet.

    VCT has reached far beyond the playing field of legitimacy. What have I said that someone else hasn't said already? Now, if KJ is a 120 lb queer wimp, like Redietz and Keystone say he is, then of course I'm not going to hurt him. But I may go to see a local friend who is in charge of pit crews and see what it would take to look deeper into this El Cortez thing. I will continue to try to find him so I can see if he can count two tables. I may even be sitting beside him at a table someday. KJ has made and will continue to make a lot of enemies. Those enemies often turn into informants. We will see what his mouth does to his "career."

    If people don’t laugh at some of his posts, they have no sense of humor. In a way, the bannings have been good for Moses since he’s become a legend in his post-banning life. Kj can says what he wants, but I think most of the views on Zenzone are legimate. And if other sites would allow Moses discussions to continue, he would dominate their forums too.

    I prefer to be the nice guy who likes to have fun and tell jokes. But sometimes it doesn't always work out that way. So that other person takes over. It is shocking because it's a complete 360 to others. But it's very rare. I look far beyond what pisses the average guy off. I don't worry about what someone else is doing or what they look like. But if someone chooses to get in my face. I will NOT run. And I will chase. So Keystone made the choice to get on me the way he has so many others on the forum and others forums. That shit isn't going to fly with me. HE may think he owns me. But actually I own him because running does more damage to your insides that fighting does to your outsides.

    Norm had to shut down Moses talk on BJTF, because Moses popularity was overtaking his site.
    I don't know about that. I was having some fun but really holding back. I took Flash crap for two years until I decided to turn it around on him. Then everyone was like WTF? But look at Norm's forum today as opposed to a couple of years ago. I think Norm might have taken a que from me and got some RED ASS in him.

    I like that Dan is more lenient here and has allowed Moses discussion to continue. In fact, the more I’m on this site, the more I like the way Dan runs it.

    I'm cool with Dan even after ban. But if he is going to allow those to continue to incite then he must allow the fight. No matter where it goes. The one who started it could have always shut up. No?
    Last edited by Moses; March 16th, 2019 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    After I poured my first cup of coffee, I pulled up VT to see that I was banned. I'd already realized I'd dominated the posts the few days prior. Thus had already decided it was time for me to return to my island. But I didn't get the chance to say to Rob, Monet, Blackhole, Mick, Coach, Redietz, Bob 21, Bosox, that I needed at least a day or two off and was handing the baton back to you guys.

    So I never got the chance to say how much I enjoyed my time at this forum and it certainly was a learning experience.

    No hard feelings Dan on my part. But I would like to point out I never complained to you about anything or demanded any changes be made or said you have a shitty forum. In fact I compliment you for having a unique, one of a kind, forum. But I've seen how guys fold like a cheap suit when a "woman like" figure is ranting before us. We'd do just about anything for a little peace and quiet. I also PMed you earlier in the day to ask if I was coming on too strong but I never received a response so I literally put the hammer down. Also, it was my understanding that if you deemed posts off topic or too cryptic that you simply deleted them as you'd done to Keystone before.

    The colorful personalities were truly a hoot for me and something I won't forget. If you're in the area? First beer or soft drink is on me. I also wanted specifically apologize to Redietz, Singer, and Monet for interrupting your threads. Also to Coach, Monet, and Blackhole if I took away some of your thunder. That wasn't my intent. I noticed your posts had slowed considerably. If it was because my over exuberance, my regrets are submitted to you.
    KJ writes:
    There is some truth to that, and I did post things about Moses here that he could not respond to. I will accept criticism for that, even though I was mostly responding to attacks from him.

    There were no personal attacks until you started making posts and starting threads when I could not respond. You could have simply accepted your victory humbly. But no, you had to boast even more and tell Dan how you thought he should run his forum. Or you could have came to Zen Zone and addressed me personally here. But I could not return to VCT to answer your numerous of false allegations.

    But he actually did and still does have a "choice" MaxPen. He could have accepted his wrong doing, apologized for the behavior, promised to change his ways and requested to be re-instated. That doesn't mean he has to like me....many don't. It doesn't mean he has to believe anything I say or claim....many don't. It does mean, he would have to behave like a normal adult human being and stop making physical threats to everyone than he doesn't agree with or like.

    I did accept the consequences and I did apologize to those who deserved an apology. Please post where I have made an actual physical threat against you. IF enticement and fale allegations were eliminated there would be no need for physical threats. But that is not how the real world works.

    But he didn't do that, instead he has doubled down. Tasha posted that Moses was sorry. I have no idea where that came from, because minutes later, Moses rebutted that and said he was not.

    The apology above was posted by Tasha. I have no desire to return to VCT. I do not know why she would say that I did. I'd never corresponded with her up until that time.

    His behavior was WAY over the line MaxPen. If wasn't just me that complained. Dan said numerous people, including some that doesn't like me all that much found his threats way over the line and complained. And not only the physical threats, but he threatened to come to Las Vegas find me and out me to all the pit bosses. Who does that? Especially someone claiming to be an AP themselves.

    KJ "behavior" has been off the charts for years. As for as I'm concerned, my blackjack career is over. My purpose in life now is ending KJs lies and playing career. You could've simply shut up. There are worse things than an ass kicking which someone else will do. KJ has made a mockery to others in both the AP and gay community.
    Someone needs to silence you once and for all. I guess that is me.

    He could still do that apologize and promise to act more "normal" going forward and I would accept that and throw my support behind a re-instatement. I would have a decision to make about whether I wanted to continue at a forum where someone has threatened me repeatedly dating back years and I have twice had to contact the police about, but that is my issue. Either way, I would recommend Dan re-instate him.

    I want the phone number of the cyber police, the detective, and case number. I will call them. Especially, to inquire about the false information you say they gave to you regarding my personal status.
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    Default What the HEll's going on our there

    Ahem, Dan. You got 3 posts today. Two were about Moses and it's a month later. One was from the guy you almost banned for laughing. The other was from the pinball wizard called Bosox.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyRSV9eqTUY
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    Default MaxPEn writes

    VCT forum has become almost unreadable. Bob21 has filled every thread with the most boring responses and nonsense. I skip over so much that the whole place just seems pointless. Checked in here and now checking back out. Later. Wondering if it is just me?

    At least Alan and Singer's dumb shit is entertaining.

    Max, congrats on your first started thread. With all due respect, you seem to have a Jekyll and Hyde personality. I've read many of your posts on WOV. You're know idiot, that's for sure. But on VCT, you seem to thrive on being a poo poo head. SO your thread leaves me curious as to why you started it.

    What would you like to see at VCT that you don't already have at WOV? Bob makes 4 out of 20 posts. Is that really excessive? I suppose everyone could just not post which sort of defeats the purpose of having a forum. No? Pardon me for asking. But is the point of your thread to intimidate people into not posting? VCT goes away. WOV increases volume. Just curious. Maybe a dumb question from someone who doesn't understand the forum biz. If so, my apologies in advance.




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    And I agree with KJ, why does Alan get that right or protection when others not a member here do not?

    Boz writes:

    Life is not fair. Alan said, "no mas." So you want to kick him while he is down? C'mon man. KJ starts new threads about members getting banned and now he complains? Poor poor KJ. Always the victim. Go have a nice Strawberry Daquiri and forget about it!

    Alan was the founder of this site. It is a great loss that Alan is gone and that it has come to this. It's too bad that this site is losing an asset like Alan due to other assets with out the "ET" on the end. If all the good people leave then what will this site be left with? What good will this site be? what will this site become?

    KJB6 writes;

    Hmmm. A sight? Bosox dog? A bunch of pussies? Fish of out water? KJ lovers? Going going gone?

    More than Dan can handle? And that;s all I have to say about that!
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    Default Blakchole words worth noting;

    I know I self-excluded in that Alan thread yet, after listening to Mickeys interview, I just couldn’t resist a personal response. Promise this is the last you’ll hear from me.

    I haven’t any idea what it’s like to have gambling and traveling endlessly to do it being a full-time part of my everyday life. But after listening to three full time gamblers having a conversation about it, I could only take 30 minutes of the interview. I was expecting something different and did give it a full 30 minutes to be fair.

    I find it interesting how Mickeys fans and friends here give praise for what they think was a gifted opportunity to earn the privilege to be interviewed by these two men who sound like two fucking weirdos. What is the main purpose for this show?

    No doubt, Mickey after finding AP gambling was able to pull himself out of the gutter and take care of himself. That should have been the main topic of the conversation about how that all evolved from where he started into today.

    After listening to him talk and hearing his passion for it, I want to admit I made a bad judgement call on his character and his resolve. Good for you Mickey and I hope it works out for you the whole ride.

    Just to compare the differences in priorities, for me at this stage of my life, I consider it a gift to spend almost all my waking hours sharing it with my wife, kids, grandkids, sisters, brother, and all their children, relatives, friends, vacations, boating, etc., which made me unable to view gambling anymore then entertainment which it’s always been my whole life.

    My life has been blessed in many ways and I wonder how I would have turned out having to live through the same conditions Mickey did.

    Mickeys story is an interesting one, but not worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize like Reditz is treating the interview as.

    God bless you Mickey.

    Excellent post Blackhole. Interesting contrast of lifestyles. Funny the wind blows a certain way and some of our lives could have been different at a certain point in time. I think the thing I've learned is to be thankful for what I do have, and not, or least try not to stress on what I now longer have or lost. I'm not talking money either. I mean after so much, the rest is just for showing off. It's TIME you can't get back.

    Blackhole and Mickey. Two first class, top notch guys IMO.


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