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    You are, of course, missing the point. Mine was that I anticipated the downturn and wanted to hedge before it occurred. Do you understand the difference? And, of course, you are also completely wrong when you state, "I didn't lose a dime because I didn't sell." What a naive way to look at things. When you're winning $1,000 during a session, do you now consider that's "house money" and not really yours until you cash in? If you lose it back, did you not really lose anything? If you get a month-end statement that says your account is worth $100,000 at the end of July but $50,000 at the end of August, do you really consider that you didn't lose anything? Shame on you for thinking that way.

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    Excellent post. I've been sitting on the sidelines since the Dow hit 20k waiting to get back in. Spinning Wheel lyrics What goes up Must come down.

    So Don, do think there has been just a wee bit of irrational exuberance during this unparalleled market run to the upside?

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    if you can anticipate downturns you are better than me - I can't - and I don't doubt that others are better at this than me - but I also believe a great many have made the wrong
    call

    It's not a matter of anticipating. It IS a matter of putting yourself in a position to take advantage of the downturns. History proves they WILL happen. The worst feeling in the world is being fully invested in a market free fall. So the question is, how long can you hang in before you panic. Histoy proves NOT long for most. When everyone else is running out, you've got to have the wherewithal to run in.
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    Don S writes to Xengrifter:


    Just try harder “not” to lose. Utter horse shit.


    Don, Don, wait- hold it. I've got one more. DON. What are you thinking? Are you saying we shouldn't read and try to comprehend 3 volumes of your books?


    All we really need to do is move to Vegas, learn HiLO, acquire a pile of money, turn into a gay child molester, and we all will make $100K a year. There is just one problem with that picture. Turn into KJ and you'll be taking it up the ass AT and AWAY from the tables. Of course, there would be little need for forums and no need for all these damn books. Don't practice. Don't improve. Just show up and leave you're money? You'll get it all back and more in the long run. Shrewd.


    How about for your next book you simply write “individual players should stay the hell away from shoes.” PERIOD! The rest is utter horse shit. Or “losers can't endure the manure.” Author Mr. Ed


    THE END
    If you goal is really to make casinos suffer, that should do it. No?
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    Don S writes:

    You're not interpreting the index correctly. When you see zero for 12 v. 4, it means STAND if the TC>=0. If you must express it as when to hit, then it's hit if TC<0.

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    Don, if I'm running a CV DATA sim based on the Running Count. I would stand on 12v4 at 0,1,2 ect. and Hit 12v4 at -1,-2,-3. But if I'm running a CV Data Sim based on True count, I'm stand at TC 0, but hitting at TC -1. Therefore, the actual running count index would fluctuate considerably. Correct?

    Maybe someone can confirm with an email.

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    Don S writes. The problem is people do not know what is valuable and what is not. This is true in life.

    Excellent qoute.This should go on your next book cover or a placque under your picture. In life, most people do not understand how money works. Few view it as a tool - combined with time - to make more money with less time invested.

    In blackjack, few understand the difference between an advantage which is of high value and a threshold which has little value. Forums are notorious for pages upon pages of threshold talk which confuses the understanding even more. But the gem's of any real value are few and far between.
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    One of the things I like about Don S is he comes up with some excellent thought provoking questions. The one I read at blackjack info was which is worse. A breaking even after huge gains on a one week trip. Or being down the entire week and making a comeback to be even.

    I do not travel to play blackjack. The game is fun for me. I do not experience the volatily of shoe players. But then, I work very hard at my game which is also stimulating for me. So, in order for me to answer, I would have to defer to my sports bets. If I bet a game and lose the money is gone and will be made up with future bets. If I don't bet a game and win. It sucks. But the money wasn't lost but still remains in my pocket.

    However, my desire to compete intensifies when I'm down vs when I'm up. For instance, a 6pm session vs watching Monday night football with the guys. An exciting game combined with a profitable day? I'm giving myself the night off. But a dull game combined with a losing day? I'm going to want to compete.

    Now, if some bullshitter jerkwad, sits at our table I'm exiting to go play blackjack. Like you Don. I don't "need" the money. But I still like making it.
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    BJ Genius writes: If you can't burn a 100 dollar bill then you shouldn't be gambling - Phil Ivey

    Moses writes: No one should gamble or burn money. Everyone who invests time and money should be hard working in their efforts.

    The joke around the table goes; If I had Don S money. I'd burn mine. Who would Don S burn his money for? Don S replies "I don't burn money."

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    Don S. I appreciate your honesty in regards to your own
    question. Keep it real even when real isn't really good.

    As a bball player, our coach expected us to be robots. So in blackjack and other ventures I seem to go into a different part of my mind. I really couldn't hear the crowds.

    Of course, KJ the great, takes issue with with you. He simply has to tell us all about his swings on a forum. Oh no, it doesn't bother him a bit.

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    No you don't. Simply answer? Stop being a fuckhead.

    Or so you're the one who isn't counting? Then there must be alot of stupid shits who like losing money as quickly as possible. Do not insult the intellegence of EITS by ratholing. You may as well play with your middle finger extended on both hands.

    Don't make the pit bosses job more difficult. BE invisible. Get in. Get paid. Get out. Dont be asking them over to the table for stupid question #27.

    Tip your dealers. Consider it a cost of doing biz. Be nice. Play nice. Forget entitlement. You are playing on their home field.

    Dont be greedy. Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered.

    Learn to compete. Show sportmanship when losing and be humble when winning. Less said the better.
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    Zee and 21Forme are like watching a bad version dumb and dumber. No, getting banned is not like eating candy in the aisle at Walmart. Nor is it like not letting a fat person eat at a buffet.

    It's blackjack. And the boasting of never losing has some scared shitless. Forum's have done a great job of boinking themselves for years. If there wasnt the illusion of winning by counting, no one would play. You could put the HiLo count on a tote board behind the and people would still screw it up.

    Hilo isnt that strong of a count. But when a player catches fire? The opposition panics.

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    Don S. No Stock Whatsoever in meaningful results on Verite.

    Moses writes: Norm told me when I bought the product it was exactly like playing in a casino. My contention to these cronic complainers is "if you can't beat Verite in the quiet and privacy of you home, how do you plan to win in hustle and bustle of a casino"? It tells me what NOT to do.

    The best players in the park where also the best in the arena.

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    KcChiefs writes: I would think 500 hours would suffice.

    Moses writes: I wouldn't play one hand in a casino with a particular count until Ive played and logged 10,000 crucial hands. Also, of the numbers of players at the table.

    Steve Prefontaine looked like a natural runner. I wonder how many miles he ran to look like a natural.

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    Use the sims first to determine your count strategy with SCORE. I can already tell you Wong Halves with Ace side count is the most popular and streamlined way to determine a top SCORE for most any game.

    The question is, can you do it? You can spend months reading forum rhetoric on simple vs complex. Or if you spend 10 hours a day, 100 hands an hour, on Verite. In 10 days you will determine the single most important factor in the game. YOU!
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    Don S writes regarding stock market decline: Wanna trade? I see your $50,000, and I raise ... you don't want to know!

    Moses writes: Want do mean "don't want to know"? That's all anyone who has lost $50k this week wants to talk about. But the crafty old investors, just smile.
    IF March 2 brings another Black Monday? I'm a buyer.

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    Newbie writes: Don needs to be more humble and empathetic.

    Moses writes: I think I read Don was a coach. Ive never met a humble and empathetic coach who got the most out of his players.

    Now when that arrogance is served up by losers and posers? Houston we have a problem.

    The blackjack table is a very competitive arena. Why? Because we are not supposed to win. So toughen up. Wise up.

    KJ crying and 21forme consoling him makes me want to...

    Zee is like that guy in a meeting who prolongs it by raising his hand and asking question after question. For crissake, DO something on your own. It's like you think you're owed something because questions are free.

    Norm, instead of $3 fee. How about charge $.10 a question and $.25 for stupid threads. History proves you'd make more on Zee alone.
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