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    My research doesn't reveal the logic in most splits in a straight up single deck game.

    Why would I double my investment on a proven losing split that I can't double? I have no chance of getting a blackjack. Now playing the hand "as is" could still win or losing your initial investment is worst case scenario. The consideration that seems to be overlooked is on the next hand for the same investment or adjusted I have the opportunity to get a blackjack or double down.

    Splitting Aces and 99vs 4,5,6 88 vs 5,6,7 are worthy investments even without DAS. 77vs5,6 88vs4, and 99v7,8 are high value plays when the deck is rich in 10s and Aces. But the rest of the field are losing propositions for the most part. Logic is splitting may work out to breaking even on two hands as opposed to losing one. But this does not consider the next hand should one not split.

    Again, most splits like 22,33,66 have very little affect on SCORE one way or the other.

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    Because the differences in BS for different games is not really that different. Why not just learn the correct BS charts from the start? Trust me it will serve you well in the future.
    After that, if you want to incorporate some "counter's basic strategy" into your game then do so. But learn the correct BS for the games you play first.

    Norm stated in his book that he does not consider "money management" to be part of the game. IF you did or do consider it to be part of your game then the investment for splitting would be the same amount for each the current hand plus the next hand played. Except in a NO DAS game there is no chance for a blackjack or a double down. The 2nd hand or next hand presents that opportunity. I do not believe the guru's and God of the past who made up these charts in the 60's made that consideration. I doubt they made pen a consideration either.

    I would think sticking only to the ill 18 would be detrimental to splitting as well. For instance, 99 v 4 in a negative deck. You get a 4 and a 5 you can't hit. If you do? Dealer preferential shuffles. Throwing good money at bad hands.

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    Zee writes:

    Don S., just a suggestion that in the next edition of BJA, a final chapter summarizing the conclusion/results for those of us who do not need to know the process (or capable of understanding formulates) of how you arrived at them (conclusions), the sharing and recognition of others who worked with you and more.

    Maybe you could go back to BJTF and share the chapter/ page number you directed readers to the most.

    As it is, BJA still is tough for the recreational counter who just wants the directions to how to play. There are many of us who learnt how to drive our cars rather well without ever understanding the Engineering behind the vehicle. The hope is to find a simpler book for how to play the modern game, similar to shorter books published years ago by Dr. Wong, the early Jerry Patterson, even Revere.

    Zee your endless questions appears your are always looking for a shortcut from those who have already done their homework. You just want the answers without taking the test. In blackjack, the test is what makes you a better player.

    I haven't much research on splitting in the DAS game. But my inclination is the results who suggest splitting aggressively. In a No DAS game, split your Aces and 88,99vs5,6. 88vs7 at even or positive. 99vs7 on large bets. You could screw around with 22,33,66,77 vs 5,6. But those are closer to thresholds than advantages. I prefer to save the same investment for the next round where I will have the opportunity to double or get a blackjack. These are even more rare on large bets with a column count and can be detrimental because you take out large cards which could help the dealer make their hand.

    Bosox writes; Apparently, you consider yourself a good driver fine but please do not delude yourself into thinking that also applies to blackjack. I am curious, ZeeBabar, how often do you even get a chance to play the game with the surrender rule option? That you felt the need to quote Don on.

    Bosox is Ed McMahon to Don S being Johnny Carson in the BJTF version of The Tonight Show. But he is right. No way can you compare driving to blackjack. You bought in to the nonsense about the game being easy. IT IS NOT. Like anything else, it takes a set of skills and a strong work ethic to further develop those skills.

    But I guess this is what BJTF is about "Helping Zee." Every thread comes with the tune;

    3 blind mice, 3 blind mice,
    see how they run, see how they run,
    Where the FUCK are they going?
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    Ryemo comments that he splits 10 when he thinks he can get away with it.

    And when you can't? Evidently, since your from the Midwest you are not aware of today's technologies. You leave one casino and they are waiting for you at the next one. There is this thing called cell phones when they can text a written message all about you to several others.

    Perhaps ask for a softer pillow during your travels. You seem a little thick between the ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Ryemo comments that he splits 10 when he thinks he can get away with it.

    And when you can't? Evidently, since your from the Midwest you are not aware of today's technologies. You leave one casino and they are waiting for you at the next one. There is this thing called cell phones when they can text a written message all about you to several others.

    Perhaps ask for a softer pillow during your travels. You seem a little thick between the ears.
    I would split 10's if I want to and tell the casino to go pound sand. What's up Moses?

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