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    Default Law of Diminishing Returns

    Finally, some interesting dialog with Bosox, Freighter, and Wave at BJTF.

    What you guys are doing is invaluable...bouncing ideas off each other. Each comes with a different perspective.

    I bet NBA. But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching college basketball. Sometimes I will pick up on something that helps win more NBA bets.

    I only play single deck straight up. But I enjoy reading some intellect instead of the rah rah look at me bullshit.

    Great job guys.
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    I noticed another insurance thread at BJTF.

    Don S and/or Bosox. Can u please tell me what TC you would insure a blackjack. 20? 19? 11? 10?

    No matter what charts say. Im interested in what you do. Thank you in advance for your answer.

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    Bosox writes: Moses, regarding taking insurance, I only take it if the count calls for it. The one possible exception take an even-money bet if I am being watched with a close borderline dicision anyway.

    Moses writes: Thanks for reply. I take even money on a blackjack when the count is even or plus. But refuse it when the count is negative. This seems to minimize scrutiny.

    Now, Ins. is warranted on TC +3 for HiLo? So, just to clarify, you wouldnt insure say A9 at TC +2? It's something Im working on. A TC +2.5 for say Wong Halves is about 60% high cards remaining and 40% low.

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    JSTAT writes:
    If you played two hands and received two aces on one hand and an ace and a four on the other hand with a dealer ace showing, it's to your advantage to insure. The ratio of non-tens (A-9) to ten cards (10-K) is 31-16, better than the 2-1 payout. One good reason to not use Hi-Lo, its count is -3.

    JBJB
    That's composition dependent but correct.

    I remember playing in SD in Tunica, and if the first hand had a dealer ace up, even the plops were alsking everyone if they had any tens. SD is easy.

    Moses writes: JSTAT makes a good point for example. SD is easy? Not when you have to deal with limitations and preferential shuffling.

    Firstly, you wouldnt play two hands off the top of the deck. The bet size is double. Instead of one hand at $25 you must play two at $50 each. Now you've given up pen for $100 instead of $25. And you cant view the 2nd hand until play is finished on the first hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    JSTAT writes:
    If you played two hands and received two aces on one hand and an ace and a four on the other hand with a dealer ace showing, it's to your advantage to insure. The ratio of non-tens (A-9) to ten cards (10-K) is 31-16, better than the 2-1 payout. One good reason to not use Hi-Lo, its count is -3.

    JBJB
    That's composition dependent but correct.

    I remember playing in SD in Tunica, and if the first hand had a dealer ace up, even the plops were alsking everyone if they had any tens. SD is easy.

    Moses writes: JSTAT makes a good point for example. SD is easy? Not when you have to deal with limitations and preferential shuffling.

    Firstly, you wouldnt play two hands off the top of the deck. The bet size is double. Instead of one hand at $25 you must play two at $50 each. Now you've given up pen for $100 instead of $25. And you cant view the 2nd hand until play is finished on the first hand.
    OK, let's assume we are playing with a plop and peek at those cards. We are then playing $25 a hand...This audience is tough LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    OK, let's assume we are playing with a plop and peek at those cards. We are then playing $25 a hand...This audience is tough LOL
    I understand what you are saying JSTAT. Bosox once motivatated me to build my entire game around Insurance. Thus the 10 count is vital. But I decided I could pull back on "perfect" insurance and adjust to get more out of other areas.

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    Insurance plays have always brought me the most heat and back off's,,and I have had great runs when I was correct at an amazing rate,,LOL!!! But it felt so F-ing GOOD!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoFlaLaw View Post
    Howdy stranger.

    See you’re the primary poster here on ZZ the Forum these days.

    Did my eyes deceive me, or did you post that you have backed away from your Modified Halves Count (2 and 7 switch tag values), and revert back to your (not the ApeMan’s) columnar count? If so, are you experiencing any perceived gains?

    With best regards,

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    Hi SFL. True I have battered back and forth between the methods. Part of the reason for this is I cannot run Sims on column counts. A problem, as we've talked about, is getting enough strong deck compositions to offset the volatility with spread limitations.

    If I had to guess I'd say the end result is close to the same. But a strange twist is the conventional method has lower volatility with a higher percentage of large bets.
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    KJ writes: Received some pushback from some of the WoV crowd, telling me I was wrong that casinos don't 86 players playing -EV.

    Moses writes: Absolutely. The perfect time to 86 a player when they are down. Or worse, stop offering a fair game. Casino's are in biz to take your money. Civilized people seem to somehow develop a mindset of just hand it over. I hear bragging all time in a casino. They are also the one with head in hands and generally disappear red-faced. Never to be seen again.

    I dont know why you let it get to you so much. Perhaps it's your way to decompress?
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    I hope you're doing well Moses. I'm still here.

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    Hey Blitzer:

    Just wrapping up some CV Data stuff before I hit the tables again.

    How is the poker biz? Hope you are making a bunch if $$$$.😎🖒

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Hey Blitzer:

    Just wrapping up some CV Data stuff before I hit the tables again.

    How is the poker biz? Hope you are making a bunch if $$$$.
    Good to hear from you Moses and I'm delighted to hear that your in good spirits. My computer's been acting up on this site and I'm glad I was able to respond. I haven't been hitting the casinos lately because I don't want to wear a mask while playing even though I have the funds to play. I hate wearing a mask. I haven't forgotten how to play poker and I've been staying sharp by playing online.

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    Cohiba said:
    Yesterday 08:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    If my grandmother had balls, she’d be my grandfather. Flawed logic. I admire your ability to promote the ridiculous. Reminds me of a prior troller, I mean poster.
    These days she very well could be your grandfather in this pronoun neutral, gender flexible utopia we are experiencing.

    Cohiba


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    The 2nd best straight count game I ever played was a single deck s17/das and they would routinely deal 7-8 rounds heads up and tolerated my discreet and respectful 2x25 to 2x1000 (table min to table max) spread. Played there once a month on junkets, would camp each time for the entire trip and no problems. Then word got out and some jerks came by and took advantage of the joint and were a little too aggressive on the game and it ended.

    Moses writes: Barney, Gomer, and Otis were in charge. Aunt Bee was the dealer.

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