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    For me anyway. Not for you.

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    Hey Moses, what's going on? Is Norman causing more trouble over at the forum I got kicked off from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Hey Moses, what's going on? Is Norman causing more trouble over at the forum I got kicked off from?
    Yes. Banned again. He is more than my mind can absorb. Wrong is revered. Right is crucified. Nothing is real because it's really nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Yes. Banned again. He is more than my mind can absorb. Wrong is revered. Right is crucified. Nothing is real because it's really nothing.
    Damn he banned you again? Wow. Why did you get banned this time around Moses? I haven't read a single letter on that site in months but I decided to take a look today and I can see that Norman is up to his old ways of allowing members to get bullied on his website. In particular I was reading that GWAE thread with Card Counter Joe, "Different styles of play and GWAE guest, Card Counter “Joe”"

    I listened to that interview and I wasn't exactly impressed with "Joe's" play. It seems like Joe excels at getting kicked out of casinos. His play and longevity on the tables has really stood the test of time, NOT! What really seemed like Bullshit during that interview was when he and his girlfriend would take turns sitting out in the parking lot or car for hours on end when the other person would be in the casino playing. It doesn't make any sense with someone who has that much cash and that much time on their hands to be doing shit like that. That Joe guy needs a new hobby.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Damn he banned you again? Wow. Why did you get banned this time around Moses? I haven't read a single letter on that site in months but I decided to take a look today and I can see that Norman is up to his old ways of allowing members to get bullied on his website. In particular I was reading that GWAE thread with Card Counter Joe, "Different styles of play and GWAE guest, Card Counter “Joe”"

    I listened to that interview and I wasn't exactly impressed with "Joe's" play. It seems like Joe excels at getting kicked out of casinos. His play and longevity on the tables has really stood the test of time, NOT! What really seemed like Bullshit during that interview was when he and his girlfriend would take turns sitting out in the parking lot or car for hours on end when the other person would be in the casino playing. It doesn't make any sense with someone who has that much cash and that much time on their hands to be doing shit like that. That Joe guy needs a new hobby.


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    This guy Paydatman questioned this Ryemo. So Ryemo outed him by giving his real name. I backed Pman. Then Pman started another thread to question why the rule is not being enforced or even consideration given to the infraction.

    Pman got drilled again. I stood up for him. Got banned for attacking. Who did I attack? Ryemo? The Refinery? It might be a set up. Those guys didnt want me to post.

    So why did I continue? Well, if you get the tap while playing at the table, you know you have to stop. But if other players are whining then you put it on them more.

    But Blitzer, Im fairly certain you can see by every post I made stands for right(s) and good. Against wrong and bad. Also, note the threads I posted in were where my name was challenged. What would you do?

    I watched a movie about Andy Kaufman. From what Ive read written on many websites for two decades, that sort of enigma seems to fit Norm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    This guy Paydatman questioned this Ryemo. So Ryemo outed him by giving his real name. I backed Pman. Then Pman started another thread to question why the rule is not being enforced or even consideration given to the infraction.

    Pman got drilled again. I stood up for him. Got banned for attacking. Who did I attack? Ryemo? The Refinery? It might be a set up. Those guys didnt want me to post.

    So why did I continue? Well, if you get the tap while playing at the table, you know you have to stop. But if other players are whining then you put it on them more.

    But Blitzer, Im fairly certain you can see by every post I made stands for right(s) and good. Against wrong and bad. Also, note the threads I posted in were where my name was challenged. What would you do?

    I watched a movie about Andy Kaufman. From what Ive read written on many websites for two decades, that sort of enigma seems to fit Norm.
    I can see that someone was inspired by the movie Rounders. It seems that Paydatman should have cussed out Ryemo for outing him, as well as Norman for getting ran over and doing nothing about an infraction. That's what I would have done. It seems like Norman is back to playing his favorites game. He should have banned Ryemo. Gamblers have to stand up for themselves or face getting run over at the table or away from it, verbally and physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    I can see that someone was inspired by the movie Rounders.
    I probably should watch that movie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    It seems that Paydatman should have cussed out Ryemo for outing him, as well as Norman for getting ran over and doing nothing about an infraction. That's what I would have done. It seems like Norman is back to playing his favorites game.
    Considering he stopped posting immidiately after I was banned, it looks like a set up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    He should have banned Ryemo.
    Yes. Even if Ryemo was Joe and my own son. I'd still do it out of fairness to all.

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    Gamblers have to stand up or themselves or face getting run over at the table or away from it, verbally and physically.
    Spot on Blitzer. But your statement really applies to everyone in every aspect of life. I seem to stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves or with/beside those in right vs wrong. It's not something I set out to do. It just seems to work out that way.

    Discernment is a key tool in blackjack because it's a game of people played with cards. It's also a game where you get fired for a job too well done. Plus it's in a casino where ill gotten game occurs all around. The problem with Norm's forum is it makes a person begin to question that skill (or gift) and that can be costly, even fatal.

    The constant name changes. Participants acting as moderators. Calling the forum their town? Blue ink bullies. People contacting me offline with my name in a blanket email that reveals others names. I call it the BLUE Oyster Cult. Threats to me that get deleted by Norm just before he bans me. I could go on. I seek not trouble but resolution for all these discrepancies. The truth will set me free is what I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    I probably should watch that movie.
    Considering he stopped posting immidiately after I was banned, it looks like a set up.
    Yes. Even if Ryemo was Joe and my own son. I'd still do it out of fairness to all.

    Spot on Blitzer. But your statement really applies to everyone in every aspect of life. I seem to stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves or with/beside those in right vs wrong. It's not something I set out to do. It just seems to work out that way.

    Discernment is a key tool in blackjack because it's a game of people played with cards. It's also a game where you get fired for a job too well done. Plus it's in a casino where ill gotten game occurs all around. The problem with Norm's forum is it makes a person begin to question that skill (or gift) and that can be costly, even fatal.

    The constant name changes. Participants acting as moderators. Calling the forum their town? Blue ink bullies. People contacting me offline with my name in a blanket email that reveals others names. I call it the BLUE Oyster Cult. Threats to me that get deleted by Norm just before he bans me. I could go on. I seek not trouble but resolution for all these discrepancies. The truth will set me free is what I believe.
    As much as I like to hate Rounders, it is a decent movie because it reinforces bad habits in poker players on a more personal setting which I like. Especially when the game gets personal as in Rounders and how they portray them playing... under the stipulations of a fair game but there could always be cheating going on in games like that.

    I sense that it may have been a set up as you say. No doubt Norm is up to playing his old games.

    One of the biggest problems with BJTF is that it is to micromanaged, something Norman seems to do all the time. I wonder if he is the type of person who goes into a bathroom and has to count all the freaking tiles before he leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    As much as I like to hate Rounders, it is a decent movie because it reinforces bad habits in poker players on a more personal setting which I like. Especially when the game gets personal as in Rounders and how they portray them playing... under the stipulations of a fair game but there could always be cheating going on in games like that.

    I sense that it may have been a set up as you say. No doubt Norm is up to playing his old games.

    One of the biggest problems with BJTF is that it is to micromanaged, something Norman seems to do all the time. I wonder if he is the type of person who goes into a bathroom and has to count all the freaking tiles before he leaves.
    Blitzer; One of things I've always admired about you is you're not afraid to stand up for your beliefs and right vs wrong.

    As they say, BJTF is not my circus and some of those contributors are not my monkees. But here is my concern. FWIW.

    At BJTF, people can say whatever they want to whomever they choose and whenever they feel the urge. The liklihood they'd ever actually have to back up their harsh words is virtually nil. Thus the problem keeps growing. So what's the point?

    Now, in a casino, there will be a time a person, who attends frequently to make EV, has to defend themelves...even if one never says anything to anyone. It's just the nature of the environment. But if a person is wisecracking and challenging others (like on BJTF) they will soon find themelves in a world of shit, no one can handle alone. I see it everyday.

    My hope is readers will take it for the grain of salt that it's worth and not consider it reality or a way to act or speak in public or especially a casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Blitzer; One of things I've always admired about you is you're not afraid to stand up for your beliefs and right vs wrong.

    As they say, BJTF is not my circus and some of those contributors are not my monkees. But here is my concern. FWIW.

    At BJTF, people can say whatever they want to whomever they choose and whenever they feel the urge. The liklihood they'd ever actually have to back up their harsh words is virtually nil. Thus the problem keeps growing. So what's the point?

    Now, in a casino, there will be a time a person, who attends frequently to make EV, has to defend themelves...even if one never says anything to anyone. It's just the nature of the environment. But if a person is wisecracking and challenging others (like on BJTF) they will soon find themelves in a world of shit, no one can handle alone. I see it everyday.

    My hope is readers will take it for the grain of salt that it's worth and not consider it reality or a way to act or speak in public or especially a casino.
    Thanks for the kind words Moses. As it pertains to BJTF people cannot say whatever they want to. Norman is a forum Nazi and nano manages the boards. He is an asshole! I thought I would meet some cool people in the Blackjack world, I was wrong. A lot of pricks you know, but on the other hand their are a lot of pricks within the scope of the gambling world and the industry as a whole.

    I don't care for BJTF. I already know that me and Norman would not see eye to eye on anything. I don't care to be there or to participate in the discussions there. With the type of clientele a casino attracts along with the drugs and booze flowing to dazed gamblers in every casino fights and ugly incidents are bound to happen. It's a just a matter of time before someone is acting like an ass in a casino.
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    Bjarg wrote:

    I dont know what happened but I feel sorry for him.
    It was clear this board was a big part of his life.
    I hope Norm will reconsider and lift his suspenssion.

    Thanks for the concern BJarg. The old saying "I was fighting so many alligators, I forgot that the mission was to drain the swamp."

    Sometimes a big part of ones life isn't necessarily a good part.

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    Maybe I missed something in a thread somewhere, but what happened to the player who made frequent posts and often related them to a sports analogy? I hope he is doing okay in his life.

    Thanks Bosox. Doing okay financially. Life? I'm never sure. Hmmm. Sports analogy. My old coach pulled me aside in a game while another player was shooting a free throw. He grabbed me by the arm and said "Moses, even though these are the worst officials you've ever seen, don't let it get in your head, and effect your game." He used quite a few other rather colorful words. But his point was to let them know his position without getting a T or tossed for saying it directly. My bicep was bruised for a week.

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    While I would love to have Moses back, allowing threats of violence is a slippery slope. There should be zero tolerance for it.


    It doesn't matter if the slope is slippery or not. The key is not to go down it in the first place. A prime example "A Member Hidden Name" seems to have alot of shit to say. What's wrong with this picture? I'd really hate to live my life being a guy who is afraid of my own shadow.

    In the words of Barney Fife; Norm needs to Nip IT! In the bud!


    You are a real piece of work to hide behind a hidden name. You tried to start a thread about me under hidden name and no one gave much of a shit. So you're problem is with me. Deal with it. Stop being a pussy. It will eat you up inside the rest of your miserable life. Come out of the closet and let's see if you have just one hair on your ass. I'm here...It's Me. It's Moses. It's always been me as Moses. The Blue Oyter Cult of constantly changes and hiding behind names is an act of super nerds. It's pathetic how Norm just looks the other way. Absolutely pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Bjarg wrote:

    I dont know what happened but I feel sorry for him.
    It was clear this board was a big part of his life.
    I hope Norm will reconsider and lift his suspenssion.

    Thanks for the concern BJarg. The old saying "I was fighting so many alligators, I forgot that the mission was to drain the swamp."

    Sometimes a big part of ones life isn't necessarily a good part.

    Bosox wrote:

    Maybe I missed something in a thread somewhere, but what happened to the player who made frequent posts and often related them to a sports analogy? I hope he is doing okay in his life.

    Thanks Bosox. Doing okay financially. Life? I'm never sure. Hmmm. Sports analogy. My old coach pulled me aside in a game while another player was shooting a free throw. He grabbed me by the arm and said "Moses, even though these are the worst officials you've ever seen, don't let it get in your head, and effect your game." He used quite a few other rather colorful words. But his point was to let them know his position without getting a T or tossed for saying it directly. My bicep was bruised for a week.

    T3 wrote:
    While I would love to have Moses back, allowing threats of violence is a slippery slope. There should be zero tolerance for it.


    It doesn't matter if the slope is slippery or not. The key is not to go down it in the first place. A prime example "A Member Hidden Name" seems to have alot of shit to say. What's wrong with this picture? I'd really hate to live my life being a guy who is afraid of my own shadow.

    In the words of Barney Fife; Norm needs to Nip IT! In the bud!


    You are a real piece of work to hide behind a hidden name. You tried to start a thread about me under hidden name and no one gave much of a shit. So you're problem is with me. Deal with it. Stop being a pussy. It will eat you up inside the rest of your miserable life. Come out of the closet and let's see if you have just one hair on your ass. I'm here...It's Me. It's Moses. It's always been me as Moses. The Blue Oyter Cult of constantly changes and hiding behind names is an act of super nerds. It's pathetic how Norm just looks the other way. Absolutely pathetic.
    It seems that a small gathering has missed you Moses. It may be better for you to put BJTF in the rear view mirror and head on over to Blackjackinfo.com's forums if you want to reconnect with some of your buddies, just not on Norm's terms. It's real sad that a pussy over at BJTF has to hide behind an anonymous name over there to talk smack and run their mouth after you've been banned. What a fucking pussy, excuse the French.

    The last time I looked at BJInfo's forums Bjarq was there, along with some of the people who used to hang out on this board like ZG, KJ, and SageFrog. Say hi to ZG for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    It seems that a small gathering has missed you Moses. It may be better for you to put BJTF in the rear view mirror and head on over to Blackjackinfo.com's forums if you want to reconnect with some of your buddies, just not on Norm's terms. It's real sad that a pussy over at BJTF has to hide behind an anonymous name over there to talk smack and run their mouth after you've been banned. What a fucking pussy, excuse the French.

    The last time I looked at BJInfo's forums Bjarq was there, along with some of the people who used to hang out on this board like ZG, KJ, and SageFrog. Say hi to ZG for me.
    Thanks Blitzer. I enjoy reading those guy's posts. Good guys IMO. Believe it or not. I'm not really a forum sort of guy. Just sort of got caught up in something that kept growing. I'm alot of things, but quiter is not one of them.

    FWIW. I deleted posts for a few reasons. 1.) I realized many times I was addressing the same poster who was using various handles. So fuck it. I deleted my post and now the thread looks like the fum ducker is talking to himself. 2.) Uzen says he read every post. Then thinks he knows me. Hell, I don't even know me and I live with me everyday. But it got me to thinking about the number of lurkers reading the forum. I mean forever to leave a post up is a long time. Babes I thought were hot 5 years ago are not today. So my thoughts change. 3.) These guys were complaining about the number of posts. So I deleted. Now they complain about the ones I deleted...and I'm the one with no life? What kind of a furly squcker frets that much over nothing?

    We play a game in which we get tossed for excellence. Plus anyone has access to the forum. I'm surprised more don't delete posts. But there are clearly a few actual players and many egomaniacs over there. In the words of Norm. Who has time for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Thanks Blitzer. I enjoy reading those guy's posts. Good guys IMO. Believe it or not. I'm not really a forum sort of guy. Just sort of got caught up in something that kept growing. I'm alot of things, but quiter is not one of them.

    FWIW. I deleted posts for a few reasons. 1.) I realized many times I was addressing the same poster who was using various handles. So fuck it. I deleted my post and now the thread looks like the fum ducker is talking to himself. 2.) Uzen says he read every post. Then thinks he knows me. Hell, I don't even know me and I live with me everyday. But it got me to thinking about the number of lurkers reading the forum. I mean forever to leave a post up is a long time. Babes I thought were hot 5 years ago are not today. So my thoughts change. 3.) These guys were complaining about the number of posts. So I deleted. Now they complain about the ones I deleted...and I'm the one with no life? What kind of a furly squcker frets that much over nothing?

    We play a game in which we get tossed for excellence. Plus anyone has access to the forum. I'm surprised more don't delete posts. But there are clearly a few actual players and many egomaniacs over there. In the words of Norm. Who has time for that?
    Norm clearly plays his games and nobody has time for that. If you want to alter and delete posts that's on you buddy. They would have complained either way. Has Norm lifted your ban or is your banishment permanent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Has Norm lifted your ban or is your banishment permanent?
    In the word of Mickey Goldmill (Rocky manager). It's poimanant!

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