+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 2 of 2

Thread: Birds, Bees and the Science of Genetic Success

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    952

    Default Birds, Bees and the Science of Genetic Success

    Listen and learn, Zenswamp neanderthals, as I have extensively studied biology, zoology, evolution and animal husbandry ... and I shall cast a few pearls of wisdom and insight to the swine lurking and thrashing about here in the mud...

    Being genetically successful
    isn't having the most offspring. It is having the most offspring live long enough to reproduce. Being there when your children require a lot more oversight really increases genetic success. Animals that abandon their mate before birth and the females don't become receptive until their young reach a certain age often develop the strategy of killing all the young they find in order to get the female ready to mate again. Grizzlies can take years to be ready to mate as they are still putting all their genetic energy invested into raising
    they young to a certain point where they will more certainly survive. The boar doesn't know which cubs are his and is best served genetically by killing every cub he gets the chance to kill so the female will be receptive sooner. The sows are usually pretty good at protecting their cubs. But the boar is always looking for an opportunity.

    The point is that our ancestors needed both parents to be together as a family for at least enough time for the offspring to have a much higher rate of survival. To explain so you can understand easily. Neo-homosapien A just sires as many offspring as possible. Very few if any make it to 4 years old because the mother is too distracted with trying to get food etc to keep her baby and/or her from being eaten. Neo-homosapien B has far fewer offspring but almost every one matures to reproductive age. Neo-homosapien B has more offspring that reach maturity and females that select neo-homosapien A as a mate are unlikely to have their offspring reach maturity.

    A social mechanism for selection for the females to choose mates that would stay around evolved at the same time selection for males that stayed around also evolved. The females learn to select mates that will remain possibly not being receptive until the
    courter has remained with her for a long time through natural selection. The males genetically learn to stay with their mate through the successful raising of their offspring past its most vulnerable years. This is natural selection for a behavior that is necessary when offspring is born so helpless after investing so much in the development of the brain and less in the development of the body.

    Natural selection works on both sexes to make both the selection of a male by a female and the behavior of those males that tend to be selected to form a pair bond that lasts until their young is out of danger. The longer the bond the more likely they would produce a third-
    generation not a second.

    Now there is nothing preventing a man from having a harem or a female from having more than one man help through the crucial period of raising their young. But the bonds of working as a team long enough to assure
    a third generation from their offspring is what makes them genetically successful. If the child dies when young and vulnerable he/she will never reproduce to make a third generation. You genetics are wasted on a dead end offspring which has 0 EV in the survival of the fittest. The hand is a loser.
    Last edited by Lady Tthree; August 24th, 2017 at 05:35 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Jewnited States
    Posts
    1,154

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Tthree View Post
    Listen and learn, Zenswamp neanderthals, as I have extensively studied biology, zoology, evolution and animal husbandry ... and I shall cast a few pearls of wisdom and insight to the swine lurking and thrashing about here in the mud...

    Being genetically successful
    isn't having the most offspring. It is having the most offspring live long enough to reproduce. Being there when your children require a lot more oversight really increases genetic success. Animals that abandon their mate before birth and the females don't become receptive until their young reach a certain age often develop the strategy of killing all the young they find in order to get the female ready to mate again. Grizzlies can take years to be ready to mate as they are still putting all their genetic energy invested into raising
    they young to a certain point where they will more certainly survive. The boar doesn't know which cubs are his and is best served genetically by killing every cub he gets the chance to kill so the female will be receptive sooner. The sows are usually pretty good at protecting their cubs. But the boar is always looking for an opportunity.

    The point is that our ancestors needed both parents to be together as a family for at least enough time for the offspring to have a much higher rate of survival. To explain so you can understand easily. Neo-homosapien A just sires as many offspring as possible. Very few if any make it to 4 years old because the mother is too distracted with trying to get food etc to keep her baby and/or her from being eaten. Neo-homosapien B has far fewer offspring but almost every one matures to reproductive age. Neo-homosapien B has more offspring that reach maturity and females that select neo-homosapien A as a mate are unlikely to have their offspring reach maturity.

    A social mechanism for selection for the females to choose mates that would stay around evolved at the same time selection for males that stayed around also evolved. The females learn to select mates that will remain possibly not being receptive until the
    courter has remained with her for a long time through natural selection. The males genetically learn to stay with their mate through the successful raising of their offspring past its most vulnerable years. This is natural selection for a behavior that is necessary when offspring is born so helpless after investing so much in the development of the brain and less in the development of the body.

    Natural selection works on both sexes to make both the selection of a male by a female and the behavior of those males that tend to be selected to form a pair bond that lasts until their young is out of danger. The longer the bond the more likely they would produce a third-
    generation not a second.

    Now there is nothing preventing a man from having a harem or a female from having more than one man help through the crucial period of raising their young. But the bonds of working as a team long enough to assure
    a third generation from their offspring is what makes them genetically successful. If the child dies when young and vulnerable he/she will never reproduce to make a third generation. You genetics are wasted on a dead end offspring which has 0 EV in the survival of the fittest. The hand is a loser.

    Big fucking deal!

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Risk Taking May Be Genetic
    By DDutton in forum Psi -powered Living & Gambling
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: September 6th, 2016, 02:55 PM
  2. Move Bees By Hand
    By Katweezel in forum Anything Else But
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: July 7th, 2014, 01:55 AM
  3. Success
    By Katweezel in forum Anything Else But
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: July 2nd, 2013, 06:36 PM
  4. Fingering The Bees
    By Katweezel in forum Anything Else But
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: May 13th, 2013, 08:23 AM
  5. Bees
    By Katweezel in forum Anything Else But
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: June 16th, 2012, 07:53 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts