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    Somebody woke up ba-ba-ba-blitzer. Were are the panther and the bees and katz. Time for all good men to came to the aid of their neighbor. Enter the cave slowly. SLOWLY!

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    We stay on topic here. Over there, the regulars keep derailing threads to their own interest - bragging!
    After over 10000 BS bragging posts, it turns out that T3 doesn't even play BJ! What a damn joke, LOL!
    T3 is no threat to any casino because he spends most of his time bragging on BTF.
    T3: Talk The Talk.

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    Default Zee & 21 Forme Dumb & Dumber

    Al, if you are reading this, I was banned at both BJ21 and BlackjAck info because a then obsessed fan notified you that I was banned from a car forum and because he wanted to tell everyone to ban me because he believed I was a troll. I presume he was/is a friend of yours.

    In any case, Norm had also banned me but only for two weeks. Maybe you would consider lifting the ban on me?

    Zee writes ^:


    Moses replies: Not my Circus. Not my Monkey

    Please don't. It was well-deserved and appropriate. let's not re-pollute the forums with his trolling and repetitive stupidity.
    21 Forme writes ^:

    Moses replies: Great. Now Norm allows a debate on HIS forum as to who should be allowed to post on other forums. 21Forme carries the same arrogance as False when it comes to sticking his nose in others biz. Throw in The Refinery and you have a Trifecta. Hmmm. A one horse Trifecta? That would be a first.

    There are several posters there who come across as "experts" in their dogmatism, but they are far from it.
    Also in my opinion, the most knowledgeable posters are on BJ21. Because BJ AP is a "mature" science, many long-time and knowledgeable players have very little left to say. You'd do yourself a great service by reviewing the archives of Posts of the Month there. That's where you will find many gems of great info.
    21forme writes;

    Moses replies: Well, that's just about the dumbest thing False, I mean Hidden Member Name, no I mean 21Forme, has ever posted. Now we have the "expert" evaluating the experts. Blackjack is a game of people played with cards. Anyone smart enough to realize this is better served NOT to post important info. Of course, his little cheerleader Ryemo gives him a +1. Rah Rah sis boom bah.

    Freighter give this joker a little growl and bark. It's fun to watch him run when you do.
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    Yes. Zee's explanation was weak and convoluted. I didn't buy it. He clearly meant to make an overt threat by mentioning what he mentioned. We can't take those kinds of threats lightly any more. Too many nut balls doing crazy things to not take these things seriously.

    T3 writes:

    Moses replies: Again, Norm should stop thus stuff before it starts and escalates. But in this case, these two old dogs, should stop sniffing each others butts. They need to meet, drink a bottle of Geritol, shadow box for about 15 to 30 seconds, and they'd both be too pooped to do anything else.

    Clearly, 21Forme stalks Zee like a loser that can't get his own date. Zee's most devastating blow would be to the person standing behind him if his finger was pulled. C'mon T3, don't make a Federal case out of this...again.

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    What has Zee contributed to the forums, other than entertainment of people laughing at him, and not with him? He's a parasite, and a stupid one at that. He asks the same questions over and over again, and foments discord.

    If your goal is to turn BJ21 into a BJTF, with lots of noise and very little content, by all means, have him back.

    BTW, Zee has posted his inaccurate conspiracy theory about his banning 5 or 6 times here, and Norm has deleted it each time. That's why I've stayed on the sidelines and not responded directly to a single post of his since he's been back. Until now.

    21 forme writes ^:

    Moses replies: Can't argue 21Forme logic here. But then, what have you ever contributed worth reading? All you ever do is bitch, hide, and threaten to run to run to another forum. Then return and repeat.

    Keep on writing dipstick. The more you do the more credibility Zee gains. Maybe Zee should post his conspiracy theory where it won't be deleted? Conspiracy? Really? You think your little man crush on Zee is that big of a deal?


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    it's amazing the number of posters who have been banned and come back with different handles

    it's Norm's site but they act is if they think have a right to post here

    like it's in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights or something like that

    no care at all about being unwanted in another person's domain

    maybe if you told one of them they couldn't come into your house they would come anyway. they would think they have that right too.

    pathetic

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    Moses replies: I agree. It's even more amazing the number of posters who have NOT been banned that use several different handles. What is up with that? Those who have been banned should really be posting on the sight with more quality and class in the first place. Maybe you should tell them. Thus they are not forced to deal with some of the idiocy and Norm's anal restrictions that limit freedom of speech to respond to same..

    Don't bring your kids to my show and I won't come to your house and cuss. Fair enough?

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    I sorry you feel that way. My philosophy is that you learn from experience. I learn from experience. But that experience doesn't have to be my own. I can and have learned more by other players sharing their experiences. So to that extent I personally favor inclusiveness when ever possible, and that includes finding ways to move forward. The more legitimate players contributing and sharing experiences, the better off we all are.

    Some people are banned for issues that have more to do with ego that anything else. AP's have big egos. And if there is a way to move forward, without issues of large egos that would prohibit that, then I am all for it. I don't want to speak for Norm, but possible that is the path he is taking and if so, I applaud him for it. It is a way for everyone to benefit.

    Spiderman writes ^:

    Moses replies: I like your posts Spiderman. But this one is complete utter bullshit. If Norm had one hair on his ass he would either welcome you back with open arms or drop you like a hot potato. Ego smego, Norm will claim ignorance because he doesn't read his own damn forum. You rarely see the ego issue issue here or on other sights, because it's people interacting with people. Not people forced to deal with Norm's puppets.

    Drunk, Have you considered that Norm's silence may very well be a form of him expressing his position?
    Spiderman writes ^:

    Moses replies: Yes, most definately. Norm. STOP being a pussy. This is how BJTF goes haywire. NIP IT! One way or the other. But Pleeeaaase, don't chime in later expressing remorse and say "let's talk blackjack." You love this and YOU KNOW IT.
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    Drunk - Spidey, and his alter-ego, have provided more useful info about real playing on this forum than almost anyone else. He's been nothing but polite and non-confrontational since his reincarnation, so give him a chance.
    False, The Refinery, Hidden Member writes this time as 21 Forme ^:

    Moses replies: I agree. But it's not your place to say. IF you are some sort of moderator or have more clout than other posters, it needs to be noted. Otherwise, it's fraudulent to mislead others. Norm, put down the puppet, walk away slowly, SLOWLY and speak the fuck up for once in your life.

    Drunk. It pains me to say this. But remember Rocky IV when he is standing outside the ring deciding whether to throw in the towel or not? I'm the manager saying "throw in the damn towel" cuz your ass is whupped. FWIW, you are and always have been a first class act IMO.
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    Thank you for those very kind words, Mr. Forme

    "Spidey" writes ^:


    Moses replies: I think I'm going to cry! Whoops! Guess not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KewlJ View Post
    I have participated lightly at gamblingforums for about a year, since Michael Shackleford banned me at Wizard of Vegas at Norm's request or demanding. I am not particularly crazy about the site, made up of many people banned at WoV, nor do I know the owner/administrator. There have been some questions raised about the admin/owner and questionable past and ethics. Again, I don't know.

    Pigpen Norm is just a bully. There are no two ways about it. He tries to shutdown anyone who says something he doesn't like, anywhere on the internet. He files complaints and threatens site owners with legal action, if they don't hut down someone he is targeting. In short, Norm is a real sleazebag. I like to use the line from the end of the movie hangover, when Stu's fiancÚ confronts him at the wedding. Stu says "You are just an evil person.....right through to your core". THAT is Stinky Norm Wattenberger. He is an evil person right through to his core.
    Words. Words. Words. That is all you are about KJ is WORDS. You legal peeps you have watching me should read these comments. You are an instigator, afraid of your own shadow.

    KJ is like the guy in the sportsbook that likes to raz other bettors. But when they get pissed off enough to kick his ass? The guy runs to Security and tells.

    Pretty soon Security wises up, looks the other way, and the guy gets his ass handed to him.

    KJ is running out of places to run and ride. So your legal peeps told you where to find me? Well then, why don't you come and get some?

    Anyone wanting to finding KJ can start by reading his interview on WOV. The dumbass gave way too much personal information.

    Flash writes: I had some dealings with KJ when he was trying to salvage his reputation as an

    emotionally stable truthful BJ Pro. His veracity was fatally damaged when he had

    pretended that he had died. I believe that he is a severely maladjusted poseur and

    may not so much as play BJ.

    Unlike myself, who has met up with dozens of players who post here, my invitations

    to meet up with him on his own turf, was never met with a manifest acceptance.

    What has/was he hiding? Anonymity is quite precious to those with false personas.

    There you have it KJ. You're are a monstrous liar. Afraid of your own shadow. You fake your own death because your alligator mouth overloaded your hummingbird ass. And you learned nothing? What if that guy is still out there? What if there are others? Your legal peeps won't know who to go after?
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    Bosox. No, I absolutely do not believe KJ is an AP, PR0, or anything successful whatsoever in life. Nor can I believe you would align yourself with such a despicable person. Seriously, are you reading his posts? The guy is a mental case. You once had my utmost respect. But know it's lost completely. I'm sure many others feel the same way.

    Good luck with KJ as your side kick. Sooner or later, the majority of blackjack community, which is so important to you will lose their respect for you as well. It's already in vast decline and evidently, your vision is blurred and you can't see it.

    Today, KJ reachws a new low which many deemed impossible.


    KJ writes to Blackhole: You are free to not read. Even more preferably would be if you stopped breathing and just died already. You are basically dead already. A ghost. No one gives a shit about you or anything you say except a few other irrelevant, bitter Haters.

    Thank you for your interest in my sex life. I don't need to "find a big cock". Since you have expressed your interest, I have a fairly new "boyfriend" for lack of a better label. He doesn't have a big cock, but it is nice. Very cute. Very suckable, which generally is something I don't do all that much. I usually am more about received oral, but being that he is young and cute, I return the favor more that I usually do. Never for hours though. I am pretty talented when I put my mind to it, so it is more like a 10 minute exercise.

    Again, thanks for your interest. Anything else you want to know? Staring down the truth that one has been denying their whole life sometimes does that to people.

    Although in your case, it probably is just a symptom of cancer eating away at your decrepit old, failing body.

    Whoa. Someone needs to pop this guy in the mouth and teach him some respect. I had some of the guys read this today and they were highly offended and said FCC or some kind of source should be contacted. Steve's comment was "is this a gambling site or a gay porn sight." Sick man. Very sick. You really want to help him? Suggest he needs to seek mental help.

    Midwest Player writes: When did Moses get un-banned? How come it says banned by his name? Somebody banned still posting, almost as good as parting the red sea.
    I for one am glad to see Moses has a second chance. Now Moses behave yourself.

    I'm not unbanned. I could less about a 2nd chance. I'd just get banned again for standing up for what I believe is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! with KJ. Seriously, read what he posted today and tell me you think that is perfectly fine and I need to behave myself. Several others read this today and couldn't stand to read anymore...and they are much bigger red asses than me.
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