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    I've uncovered a H17 DD game with the best rules but no surrender. But if you spread, the troll appears and breaks your knuckles. So if I bet 3 hands @ one-third table maximum and 2 hands @ half the maximum and 1 hand @ +4, is the game beatable @ 1 deck penetration? I believe it a waste of time but maybe I'm wrong. It's heads up play btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengarlicky View Post
    I've uncovered a H17 DD game with the best rules but no surrender. But if you spread, the troll appears and breaks your knuckles. So if I bet 3 hands @ one-third table maximum and 2 hands @ half the maximum and 1 hand @ +4, is the game beatable @ 1 deck penetration? I believe it a waste of time but maybe I'm wrong. It's heads up play btw.
    Not without sufficient exiting.
    For 2D play-all you need a net-effective 2-1 spread, like this -

    3x1
    2x2
    1x6
    -or-
    3x1
    1x4
    1x6
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Not without sufficient exiting.
    For 2D play-all you need a net-effective 2-1 spread, like this -

    3x1
    2x2
    1x6
    -or-
    3x1
    1x4
    1x6
    Well, I could only wong out but wouldn't be allowed to increase the spread. Ergo, I'm out of business.
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    What's the pene?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    What's the pene?
    A lousy one deck dealt.

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    1. How much can you reasonably exit?
    2. Can you bet 4 hands?
    3. Can you return to multi-hand mid deck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    1. How much can you reasonably exit?
    2. Can you bet 4 hands?
    3. Can you return to multi-hand mid deck?

    Answers:

    1. Probably most if not all the time.
    2. No, not for the table minimum.
    3. No.

    Alternative options:

    1. I could begin with 3 boxes @$100.
    2. Drop to 2 boxes @$150.
    3. Drop to one box @$300.
    4. Drop to one box @ minimum.

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    2. No, not for the table minimum.
    What's the table min?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    What's the table min?
    It's $10-$300.

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    I think this could work w/ dome tweaking -

    4x75
    -------
    2x150
    -------
    1x300

    Exit @ -3
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    I think this could work w/ dome tweaking -

    4x75
    -------
    2x150
    -------
    1x300

    Exit @ -3
    Maybe even better to bet just the 4x75 and then 1x300?
    How about 5x60 (or even 6x50?) and 1x300?
    Exit at -what?

    With such poor pene it needs a sim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Maybe even better to bet just the 4x75 and then 1x300?
    How about 5x60 (or even 6x50?) and 1x300?
    Exit at -what?

    With such poor pene it needs a sim.
    With such poor pen and hyper-sweaty pit, it needs avoidance! I will stick with 6 deck Spanish 21 as my best money-making prospect. I am using the paradigm described in TCOB for this game. Utilizing the UTC works better for Spanish than for blackjack and makes it easier to get below the radar as well. I have no idea why pros don't drop blackjack altogether.
    Thanks for all the input, ZG. I got off on the proverbial tangential lark but I have now recovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengarlicky View Post
    With such poor pen and hyper-sweaty pit, it needs avoidance! I will stick with 6 deck Spanish 21 as my best money-making prospect. I am using the paradigm described in TCOB for this game. Utilizing the UTC works better for Spanish than for blackjack and makes it easier to get below the radar as well. I have no idea why pros don't drop blackjack altogether. (emphasis added)

    BECAUSE not ALL areas HAVE SP21 available...........LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJOK View Post
    BECAUSE not ALL areas HAVE SP21 available...........LOL
    In my geographic, they are everywhere.

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