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    Default Info on Beatable BJ Side Bets

    I already know some TC correlations for one game I play and I just learned about another, but side bets are rolling in like crazy where I play and I'd like to look at the beatable ones more. Maybe even just by helping me start a list here I can get researching more in depth but I'm having trouble searching this out...

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    And who knows the TC to bet at with Lucky Lucky? I want to say it's close to 4 but I might be off by two...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    And who knows the TC to bet at with Lucky Lucky? I want to say it's close to 4 but I might be off by two...
    Lucky Lucky or Lucky Ladies??
    Lucky Lucky does not correlate to the primary count, it requires a count emphasizing 678A.

    My present sidebets focus is ...

    Lucky Ladies
    Kings Bounty
    Royal 20s
    -----------
    Buster
    ------------
    Lucky Lucky
    -----------
    Pair Squared
    Copy Cat

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    ZG's shortlist, I linked each to a relevant article at APHeat, below ----

    Lucky Ladies
    Kings Bounty
    Royal 20s
    Bust It
    ------------
    Lucky Lucky
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    Pair Squared




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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    Maybe even just by helping me start a list here I can get researching more in depth but I'm having trouble searching this out...
    See - Fear, Loathing and Blackjack Side Bets

    • minimal: no meaningful risk to advantage play.
    • low: very low risk, card counting is highly unlikely.
    • medium: risk is roughly equivalent to ordinary card counting (with the same maximum wager), take equivalent measures.
    • high:substantial risk to high-level advantage play, game should be carefully monitored.
    • extreme: imminent risk of significant loss to advantage play, take immediate steps to safeguard game.
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    Pardon ignorance.
    What does DI mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    Pardon ignorance.
    What does DI mean?
    DON'T INTERRUPT!

    See - DI and N0 in Advanced AP Circumstance
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    Thank you DDutton for your convenient links per game....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    Pardon ignorance.
    What does DI mean?
    Desirability Index as discussed in BJA3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Lucky Lucky or Lucky Ladies??
    Lucky Lucky does not correlate to the primary count, it requires a count emphasizing 678A.

    My present sidebets focus is ...

    Lucky Ladies
    Kings Bounty
    Royal 20s
    Bust It
    ------------
    Lucky Lucky
    -----------
    Pair Squared
    Copy Cat

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    And yes, zg, I meant Lucky Ladies' TC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Lucky Lucky or Lucky Ladies??
    Lucky Lucky does not correlate to the primary count, it requires a count emphasizing 678A.

    My present sidebets focus is ...

    Lucky Ladies
    Kings Bounty
    Royal 20s
    Bust It
    ------------
    Lucky Lucky
    -----------
    Pair Squared
    Copy Cat

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    I've hit both KB and LL payouts this year. One for $25K, the other for $10K. Both at DD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengarlicky View Post
    I've hit both KB and LL payouts this year. One for $25K, the other for $10K. Both at DD.
    WITH dealer BJ?? Wow!
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    And yes, zg, I meant Lucky Ladies' TC...
    What count do you use?
    Generally about 2x your insurance count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    WITH dealer BJ?? Wow!
    No dealer BJs. $500 on side bet maximum.

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    I've never seen it for more than $25.
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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