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    Default Psychedelics in the casino

    N0rm's recent railing made me want to get in a quick stab if at all possible.

    Have you done LSD or mushrooms in a casino for any positive AP effect or even to make it much more lucidly entertaining? I want some stories here, so Boz you can use your prescription drug abuse stories to spice it up if there's nothin' goin'.

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    Tony Soprano gambling on ayahuasca ...

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    Please forgive me if this or any other topic I bring up is old news. I have yet to really give each section of this forum's archives a thorough review.

    With that in mind, please direct me to older shit if you don't have anything recent to offer up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    N0rm's recent railing made me want to get in a quick stab if at all possible.

    Have you done LSD or mushrooms in a casino for any positive AP effect or even to make it much more lucidly entertaining? I want some stories here, so Boz you can use your prescription drug abuse stories to spice it up if there's nothin' goin'.
    What kind of question is this? Of course people gamble when they are in an altered state of consciousness. Have people gambled while they were drunk or high or on both? Of course! They do it everyday.

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    The NATURE of the question is NOT "drugs." ESPECIALLY, not tobacco and alcohol. I'm pretty sure weed would be fairly limited help too. But lots of research has been done into psychedelics as well as ecstasy showing that they can increase certain abilities, both mappable and unmappable in the human brain as well as change consciousness in a way that is emotionally comforting and at least sometimes maximally positive while in the "trip."

    So again, this topic should be relegated to psychedelics, not the more base drugs that are ruining our society.

    Take it, Bill Hicks:

    "Wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story on the news? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition? Perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting? Just for once?"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."



    "I think it's interesting the two drugs that are legal, alcohol and cigarettes, two drugs that do absolutely nothing for you at all, are legal, and the drugs that might open your mind up to realize how badly you're being fucked every day of your life? Those drugs are against the law. He-heh, coincidence? See, I'm glad mushrooms are against the law, 'cause I took 'em one time, and you know what happened to me? I laid in a field of green grass for four hours going, "My God! I love everything." Yeah, Now, if that isn't a hazard to our country... how are we gonna justify arms dealing if we know we're all one?!"

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    Ok, I think if a person used psychedelics in a casino they would lose their ass. All of the stimuli would probably be entertaining to the person on the trip, however I think cognitive ability would be at a snails pace for the player the way I see it. Different people would experience different expectations. I think it would be a horrible idea. If you were trippin at the table playing a card game the King would get up and leave the building. The last time I seen someone really fucked up at the table was about a year or so ago. This chick seemed like she did some coke or shot up with either meth or coke. Me and the blackjack dealer could tell this chick was on one, seriously. She reminded me of a junky, my first thought about this random person.
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    And old friend of mine, some years ago, decided to drop acid at a casino on a lark. (He's a civilian, and generally excellent camo for me while I play.)

    He was rather experienced with the drug, but the crowds and stimulation were just too much for him. He had to get out of there for a while until things settled down.

    As for cognitive ability or any kind of ESP-style nonsense, not a chance. I can see someone getting in the "zone" counting properly and being hyper-focused on whatever it is, but they should easily be able to do that unaltered just as well. Seems like a silly risk to take.

    Of course, in safe and controlled environments, LSD and the like can sometimes have excellent therapeutic properties, and can be a lot of fun. Seems like a casino would be the worst place for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
    And old friend of mine, some years ago, decided to drop acid at a casino on a lark. (He's a civilian, and generally excellent camo for me while I play.)

    He was rather experienced with the drug, but the crowds and stimulation were just too much for him. He had to get out of there for a while until things settled down.

    As for cognitive ability or any kind of ESP-style nonsense, not a chance. I can see someone getting in the "zone" counting properly and being hyper-focused on whatever it is, but they should easily be able to do that unaltered just as well. Seems like a silly risk to take.

    Of course, in safe and controlled environments, LSD and the like can sometimes have excellent therapeutic properties, and can be a lot of fun. Seems like a casino would be the worst place for it.
    So your friend was experienced but the stimuli and the crowds were too much for him. I'm not surprised to hear you say that. I tend not to drink alcoholic beverages when I play blackjack or poker. After a few drinks I can tell a difference in my brain and it fucks with my ability to play at my best, but if I smoke some mary jane before I hit the tables it doesn't affect me in such a way as alcohol does.

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    To be fair, his dose was much larger than he had been expecting. A lot even for him!

    Definitely risky to alter the mind at all when playing. Out of curiosity, I've been tested for accuracy and ability when I've had a few drinks, and in my active days I played flawlessly, even when pretty sloshed. I wouldn't dare try that now. (Even then it's not worth the risk.)

    Smoking pot, on the rare occasion I imbibe, just makes me a little groggy. Not as much fun as when I was young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
    And old friend of mine, some years ago, decided to drop acid at a casino on a lark. (He's a civilian, and generally excellent camo for me while I play.)

    He was rather experienced with the drug, but the crowds and stimulation were just too much for him. He had to get out of there for a while until things settled down.

    As for cognitive ability or any kind of ESP-style nonsense, not a chance. I can see someone getting in the "zone" counting properly and being hyper-focused on whatever it is, but they should easily be able to do that unaltered just as well. Seems like a silly risk to take.

    Of course, in safe and controlled environments, LSD and the like can sometimes have excellent therapeutic properties, and can be a lot of fun. Seems like a casino would be the worst place for it.
    This seems a very true answer and ultimately what I would expect as well. I agree with you on the grog of the weed too...

    Appreciating the quality responses! I would of course love to hear a story of a lark in which things went exceedingly well but I would think it would require a true warrior of a user and a player to make that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Ok, I think if a person used psychedelics in a casino they would lose their ass. All of the stimuli would probably be entertaining to the person on the trip, however I think cognitive ability would be at a snails pace for the player the way I see it. Different people would experience different expectations. I think it would be a horrible idea. If you were trippin at the table playing a card game the King would get up and leave the building. The last time I seen someone really fucked up at the table was about a year or so ago. This chick seemed like she did some coke or shot up with either meth or coke. Me and the blackjack dealer could tell this chick was on one, seriously. She reminded me of a junky, my first thought about this random person.
    Fair enough, Blitzkrieg. I think you are possibly quite correct about cognitive ability. Maybe a true counter has done this experiment. Lol at your bold statement. Not so much at the following story.

    I saw a blow couple at a table recently. They were appropriately cautious after losing a bit and playing mid level limits, which are possibly subjectively considered high by most where I play as max bet limit is very low. But they were also degen as all hell. It's definitely a continuum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    Fair enough, Blitzkrieg. I think you are possibly quite correct about cognitive ability. Maybe a true counter has done this experiment. Lol at your bold statement. Not so much at the following story.

    I saw a blow couple at a table recently. They were appropriately cautious after losing a bit and playing mid level limits, which are possibly subjectively considered high by most where I play as max bet limit is very low. But they were also degen as all hell. It's definitely a continuum...
    Why would a true counter or a serious AP for that matter put themselves at a serious disadvantage and potentially embarrass themselves just to prove that they can play Blackjack at a high level when on a mind bending hallucinogen? That doesn't make sense to me. What does anyone have to prove by doing such, that they can do it? That's a fools way of attacking the game/casino. Go in really fucked up and leave broke, it happens all the time. Partying is for after the gaming is done.
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    Micro-dosing seems to be an alternative here. There's much available online about this. I was fortunate to be ripped into a new reality quite recently that was not comfortable and re-engaged with my fair weather friend LSD on a partial dosing methodology and found it quite useful for me to get centered and leave behind false paths. I plan on taking this down a notch to an even smaller dosing plan to see how it might enrich performance as many have suggested.

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    To enrich performance? In what area?

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    I have played high on LSD a few times, an ongoing experiment, if you will, and I have experienced some amazing things, but it's certainly NOT my best game LOL. There is however an emerging body of research that 'micro-doses' of LSD can be true-performance enhancing and I will undoubtedly give that an experimental try in the future.

    Notwithstanding, I am serious about getting the money, so I generally play fresh and ready, not tripping
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