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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    KJ it seems like Norman gave a response in the thread, "It's getting closer and closer to search at will." #65 Fanning the flames of friendship.
    Ahh....thanx for pointing me in the right direction, Blitzkreig. I just can't bring myself to read through most of the dribble that now makes up that site, which has turned to nothing but voodoo and garbage....but this was worth the read.

    And Norman, now I am going to speak to you directly, because we all know you are reading. I will give you credit for your “that seems unlikely” response to yet another of T3 bullshit posts and claims. T3's claims unlikely?? Ya think!! It's about time, Norm. You have known this for a long time. It's about time, you speak up and say something. If you had done so a year ago, you could have avoided this whole last 12 month nightmare (for both of us) You didn't even have to speak up, all you had to do was allow the rest of us to speak up, instead of protecting these garbage claims.

    And these weren't personal attacks (last summer) by myself and the other 2 professional players. It was just several legit, professional players challenging the credibility of someone that needed to be challenged, as he was heading into fantasy-land and making absurdly ridiculous claims (that have only grown more outrageous over the last year). That is the community policing itself and it is a necessary thing.

    And now Normy, because I am in a good mood, I am going to throw you a bone. I don't give a rats ass about you hygienic habits. CP brought it up. He offered no real proof of his statement. I doubt it's true. I don't care the slightest bit, whether it is true or not. Really your hygiene habits are the last thing I want to think and post about. But it clearly upsets you.....so I stuck with it. You have cried to dozens of people in private conversations as well as mentions on your voodoo site “KJ said mean things about me. He said I don't bath. “He said he will celebrate when I die”.

    Here's the bone Norm: If you didn't show, that these things bothered you....not just my comments, but everything said by everyone on this site, it wouldn't be as much fun to say these things. You should ask yourself why people dislike you so much that they would go to these lengths. It is the way you have treated many of these people unfairly and dishonestly. You bring all of this on yourself.

    You couldn't wait to get rid of ZG. You couldn't do it on day one. You had to bide your time. But he never stood a chance. You were always going to get rid of him first chance you got and you know it. Hell, everyone knew it. That's why many really legit and knowledgeable AP's, like AutoMonk and many others, didn't trust you enough to make the journey to your site. Others, like Shadroch, joined for a bit but couldn't stomach your behavior.

    CP had to assume a new name. And he tried really hard to adjust, to tone it down. But just like ZG, once you figured out who he was, he was gone. He never stood a chance. You were going to find a reason to get rid of him. Ebola of all things?? That's what you used to get rid of a very strong, knowledgeable AP? A couple other really strong and talented AP's, like Bojack also went the new handle route, participated a bit and couldn't take it and split.

    And then the big blow up last summer. 3, legit known AP's, out of character for all of us to challenge someone's credibility like that, but that is how egregious this nut jobs claims were and now they are 10 times worse. You backed the wrong horse and drove us all from the site. The other two left on their own (one has recently returned in a limited capacity) and you created a situation where I was repeatedly attacked by the little core group and when I fought back, you suspended and banned me.

    I can name a bunch of guys, Exoter and Zenking, now Boz (for the second time), many more. And some of them were idiots. But some just expressing an opposing view. That is something you promised, but have not allowed. So now you are stuck with this core little group of misfits, driving the conversations. Driving your once promising site further down the road of irrelevancy and voodooism.

    One last thing. BJTF is NOT your living-room, numb-nuts. It is a message board site, which was and should be populated by knowledgeable AP's sharing their experiences and ideas for the benefit of each other. But it actually has become your living room, I guess. It has become a little clubhouse for a group of misfits.

    I feel certain your recent comment about having given Boz a second chance and you will never do that again, was directed at me. Well, guess what Norman, I don't want a second chance. I gave you and your site every thing I had for 4 years. Shared all my experiences for the benefit of others. Had one of the highest ratings in your stupid little rating system, which I was against. It always was going to turn into a popularity 'clique' tool. I don't want back. I gave you everything I had and you shit on me. And it wasn't enough for you to play god and censor me on your site....you followed me to other sites that I participated on like WoV. Sites you had zero interest in being a member at, but you showed up just to try to damage my reputation (with a good bit of success) and to demand other site owners, censor me as well. So, No I don't want back. Don't flatter yourself.

    I do miss the opportunity to help someone like recent new member, Lonewolf, who wants to move to and play Vegas. But you took that from me. I just hope he steers clear of the advice and mentorings of some of the nut jobs on your forum, so he has a fighting chance.

    You can blame us, if it makes you feel better, but you have brought this on yourself by the way you have treated people. Look in the mirror and take responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    I think Norm's a half-way decent guy. As a moderator, he probably does a better job than most--most of the time. But he doesn't really seem to respect other people's intelligence and he's a micro-manager.
    I strongly disagree. Norm is a horrible moderator. He is far too opinionated and he is totally unable to compartmentalize personal feelings.

    Norm is a extremely talented BJ mathematician. I am sure his math talents go far beyond BJ, but that is what I am interested in. His software contribution was/is so valuable to many in the community, myself included that have benefited greatly. And his book, Modern Blackjack is a valuable reference piece. It is one of my favorites because unlike most other books it really focuses on today's conditions and what is needed to win (and for the most part that is a fairly simple approach....not all the garbley-gook often discussed on BJTF).

    But as a site administrator/Moderator Norm really sucks! He personally, as well as what his site has become has driven away scores of successful, knowledgable AP's that participated at BJTF.

    Recently, I have run into 'shadroch' who is a member that participated at Ken Smith's Blackjackinfo, from where most of us came before Norm's forum. In a discussion with shadroch on another forum, shadroch said the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by shadroch, post: 16461, member: 1881
    Norm is one of the two people I consider a friend and have great respect for. You were the other. You'll noticed I have not said a word in Norms defense, have I? You might remember I was one of the first to bail on his forum, as well. As a mathematician, Norm is without peer. As a forum administrator, I wasn't impressed.
    Shadroch is kind of a "don't rock the boat guy". He gets along with most. So this comment speaks volumes. You can take this sentiment and multiply it by 100's throughout the BJ/AP community.

    I also strongly disagree with the "decent guy" thoughts. I don't think Norm is a decent guy at all. I think he is pure evil and I don't say that lightly. Just because I have disagreements with someone doesn't make them evil. But following me to other sites....sites he had no interest in participating on, solely to attempt to damage my reputation, went beyond anything I could have imagined. That took indecency to a new level for me. And to that point, I am not surprised there are so many people that feel so strongly against him, as to go to the lengths many have to express it.


    There are very few people that my dislike and contempt for rises to the point that I actually hope bad things for and hope they are unhappy. But that is how I feel about Norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    I strongly disagree. Norm is a horrible moderator. He is far too opinionated and he is totally unable to compartmentalize personal feelings.

    Norm is a extremely talented BJ mathematician. I am sure his math talents go far beyond BJ, but that is what I am interested in. His software contribution was/is so valuable to many in the community, myself included that have benefited greatly. And his book, Modern Blackjack is a valuable reference piece. It is one of my favorites because unlike most other books it really focuses on today's conditions and what is needed to win (and for the most part that is a fairly simple approach....not all the garbley-gook often discussed on BJTF).

    But as a site administrator/Moderator Norm really sucks! He personally, as well as what his site has become has driven away scores of successful, knowledgable AP's that participated at BJTF.

    Recently, I have run into 'shadroch' who is a member that participated at Ken Smith's Blackjackinfo, from where most of us came before Norm's forum. In a discussion with shadroch on another forum, shadroch said the following:



    Shadroch is kind of a "don't rock the boat guy". He gets along with most. So this comment speaks volumes. You can take this sentiment and multiply it by 100's throughout the BJ/AP community.

    I also strongly disagree with the "decent guy" thoughts. I don't think Norm is a decent guy at all. I think he is pure evil and I don't say that lightly. Just because I have disagreements with someone doesn't make them evil. But following me to other sites....sites he had no interest in participating on, solely to attempt to damage my reputation, went beyond anything I could have imagined. That took indecency to a new level for me. And to that point, I am not surprised there are so many people that feel so strongly against him, as to go to the lengths many have to express it.


    There are very few people that my dislike and contempt for rises to the point that I actually hope bad things for and hope they are unhappy. But that is how I feel about Norm.
    I just think we have different perspectives. I wouldn't argue any of the points you've made. But I've heard lots of people hail his software as great. I think it's pretty useless. I have virtually no use for it. I can have a sim run for free anytime I want. I'm not going to shell out $200 to Norm. The only thing I ever had interest in was CVIndex and I emailed him about it. He packages it with CVData, so I didn't get it. I think that's a mistake, because I would have bought that as a single product if it could handle my count. Anyway, I remember downloading the free trial like 4 years ago. It moderately fucked up my computer (required Windows re-install, lost no data, no big deal), and I mentioned it on the forum. OH BOY, not only did it not fuck up my computer (I was apparently lying), I had to hear an earful (that was back when you couldn't ask a question without someone trying to get you to buy his stuff; it's a lot better now). Was it my fault for looking at porn? Maybe, I don't fucking know. Probably coulda had something to do with it. Wasn't the point. My point was that I didn't want to buy the software, and here's my list of reasons why I don't want it so leave me alone. What's his point, that the trial software only fucks up your computer if you aren't a computer nerd? Duly noted. I still remember that. His book is also useless. I never needed anything out of there. I don't give him any points for his software and other achievements. I give him points for not being Shakleford or a moderator at a cat lovers site--try making fun of cat lovers and see how long you last . I didn't last a day. "Shut up, I just want to know if it's normal for a cat to eat slightly less than normal for a week. I hope your Snickers swallows a string and dies."
    Do other people find his tools useful? Sure, I imagine. Does he have a lot math and programming knowledge. Sure, I imagine. But never really affected me one way or the other. As far as moderators go, best comparison is Shakleford. What is it up to, 1000 suspensions? There's a friggin list. There's deputies roaming around suspending people for fun; and don't forget about the SECRET ones (oy vey). You can't say anything over there. I think he's a horrible moderator. Most of the time, Norm let's things be. It's when he gets you in the sights he becomes intolerable--and that's him being a micro-manager. Rather than just make a bad decision, he likes to make it a tortured process and pretend it's a deliberation and you forced him to do it--he made up his mind a month ago. Yeah, he's terrible--sometimes. But objectively, I measure it by the amount of undue censoring going on site-wide--and he's not bad. He's only bad when he singles people out. IMO. I suppose I really am just guessing that he's not evil tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    I will give you credit for your “that seems unlikely” response to yet another of T3 bullshit posts and claims. T3's claims unlikely?? Ya think!! It's about time, Norm. You have known this for a long time. It's about time, you speak up and say something.
    Yeah, I got suspended for my responses to T3s claims, over the course of two threads--or my posts here--or both. Regardless, I was very surprised to see that he didn't delete all of it. That one post by Norm didn't surprise me though, because it just seemed like he was trying to prevent having to clean up another T3 mess. FAIL. See what censorship does? It spawns threads at the ZenZone. Come on Norm, you really think I'd be here bitching about T3 if you'd have allowed an unbiased playing field over there? Who's the cause of "KJ mentioned me 6 times on an anti-semite site yesterday"...YOU! You share no responsibility in that? I have none? T3 has none? You could have foreseen it happening and tried to prevent it by acting more impartial--T3 and I, not so much. I used to play a joke on my brother. My mom would turn her back. I'd hit him. She'd turn around, he'd hit me, and I'd tell on him. You're kind of like me in that scenario. You cause it, then you complain. Who are you fooling besides some random idiot who doesn't care anyway? Anywho, about Lady Three...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    Does anybody ever wonder why Norm reads all these "anti-semite" sites? He's also so "busy", is this what he's doing all day? Is THIS the anti-semite site? If I had to characterize it, I'd call it a conspiracy theorist site. Sure, it's probably got some hate stuff somewhere. But I'm sure less of that than AP stuff. And no offense, but I wouldn't call this an AP site. Why doesn't he call all these sites "free speech" sites? We all know that's his real problem. It's no different than calling Norm's site a voodoo site because it has a disadvantage forum. He loves to lie to people by giving unfair assessments. How come he never mentions he used to be an active poster on "anti-semite" sites himself? And that on those sites, he made as many anti-semitic remarks as KJ? Accurate, is it not? Some of these KJ rants are so obviously false and misleading, they are bordering on libel or false light (KJ--anti-semite?). Maybe he should check himself. I have no interest in inflaming the situation; my interest is to discourage erroneous characterizations as I've been similarly victimized by his half-wit marginalization tactics.

    He mentioned death threats. I am aware of one against the Wizard. Although it pretty clearly wasn't real, that is totally uncalled for and deserved condemnation and reporting to authorities. I understand the irritation there; Norm shouldn't tolerate death threats. But everything else is just slanting public view by playing victim. It's tired. You trash everybody behind close doors, mischaracterize people's views, and then whine when they talk about you with their power of free speech. There's no disruption to your site; you go out looking for it. You want something to be mad about. How many friggin times did I get accused of things (my signature that you wrote, other posters with same handles as me) just because you were scrutinizing me, looking for something to bitch about? One of your major gripes, that I've read, is that people use your real name--but your avatar IS your real name. Why don't you get an avatar? You cause 50% of the conversation by reacting to it! Do you see Shakleford whining publicly every 5 minutes? People hate him as much as you, I'd imagine--but I don't even know his first name. Boo hoo. You're supposed to be running a blackjack site, not a whining contest. Anyway, Lady Tthree is a better whiner than you. Let him pinch hit. I only want to talk about Lady Tthree...Norm hijacked this thread because he wasn't getting enough negative attention! Ask ZG to allow you to come here and defend that charlatan. Or butt out and let us have our discussion without jumping into the middle of it and then fainting. And if you don't like what KJ says on this site or some other, friggin ignore it. Do you really think anyone, besides Lady Tthree, gives a shit that some random person somewhere hates you? No one cares. And if you're trolling, which you shouldn't be but probably are, this isn't an attack. This is just an objective point of view man. Now, Lady Tthree, yeah, I'm attacking her.

    Nice piece, made me LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    N0rm refers to the ZZ as an 'anti-Semite site'?
    I don't know, he's calling someone's site an anti-Semite site. I find it extremely improbable that KJ posts on a Neo-Nazi site AND Norm tracked him to such a site. I find it much more likely Norm unilaterally decided to redefine anti-Semite. I've seen anti-Zionist memes on here, which appear to be some sort of humor beyond my grasp. I didn't even know what a Zionist was until I Googled it. Obviously, the site is not devoted to that singular topic, and there are probably like two people who participate in it, and a handful more who even understand it. Since I'm one of the ones who doesn't understand it, I'm not clear it has any malice, nor do I care. It's not my topic of interest. I would not be at all surprised if they were posted just to watch Norm cry about it, since they have no other discernible purpose.
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    I have to agree with all you wrote KJ, you did a very passionate job of doing so, sorta poured your heart out!

    I have some very good friends in NY and the area, so I am clued in on some very personal details on a certain ones life, getting right down to some very personal and telling items this person recently bought and checked out with from the store/pharmacy....and these contacts of mine are seasoned BJ players, team members and managers, and not people you want to cross.

    As I have said earlier, best to just move on from that site, any thing you and many others need to know has been learned years ago, Counts, indice plays, side bets, STing, HC, carny games, etc. That mormon site is a distraction that any BJ player does not need, it can be most detrimental, as we see from your experience. Lesson, stay away, far away,,from the mormon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    LOL, while I'm vaguely familiar with jokes about Jews owning lots of stuff and believe in your right to speak about whatever beliefs you want, please keep this thread on topic.
    OK, I'll try. I have a long memory. Zengrifter first came to my notice way back on Arnold Syder's BJ site. I was there a long time, and I recall a feud there on the Fight Club when Zg was accused of conning newbies with BJ voodoo systems and all hell broke loose. The damage resulted in old friendships breaking over crap, which lingered on, and the contention stayed. Zg and I moved on to Ken Smith's BJ Info which included the ZZ, which was a lot of fun in those days... with the likes of Shadroch, AutoMonk, Tarzan, Bojack and Aslan etc, but that is another story.

    Strangely enuff, N0rm resurrected that old Snyder Fight Club bullshit by accusing Zg again of fleecing newbies on N0rm's site by luring them into more BJ voodoo systems for their $5 red chip plays... LOL.

    The point is, I believe none of that going way back to the Fight Club stuff was true then, about Zengrifter and N0rm knew that then, but he went ahead and raised it yet again as new accusations on his own site.

    [By this time his hatred of Zen was openly promoted and my guess is he used anything he could think of to further denigrate Zen... not nice at all, and such should never be considered for the post of fair and unbiased moderator/adjudicator of any site, BJ or whatever.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    OK, I'll try. I have a long memory. Zengrifter first came to my notice way back on Arnold Syder's BJ site. I was there a long time, and I recall a feud there on the Fight Club when Zg was accused of conning newbies with BJ voodoo systems and all hell broke loose. The damage resulted in old friendships breaking over crap, which lingered on, and the contention stayed. Zg and I moved on to Ken Smith's BJ Info which included the ZZ, which was a lot of fun in those days... with the likes of Shadroch, AutoMonk and Aslan, but that is another story.

    Strangely enuff, N0rm resurrected that old Snyder Fight Club bullshit by accusing Zg again of fleecing newbies on N0rm's site by luring them into more BJ voodoo systems for their $5 red chip plays... LOL.

    The point is, I believe none of that going way back to the Fight Club stuff was true then, about Zengrifter and N0rm knew that then, but he went ahead and raised it yet again as new accusations on his own site.

    [By this time his hatred of Zen was openly promoted and my guess is he used anything he could think of to further denigrate Zen... not nice at all, and such should never be considered for the post of fair and unbiased moderator/adjudicator of any site, BJ or whatever.]
    I always thought Norm was trying to fleece people on software, at least, back in the day. Not really anymore. I had two reasons for thinking that. 1) I was constantly being pressured to buy it, even though I had come there to ask questions (like you might go to a 'help my computer's broke' forum. And now people are trying to get money out of my wallet.) 2) I never saw any use for it for a newbie, part-time red-chipper. I still don't.
    Now, I seem to be in the minority on that view. I haven't been convinced I'm wrong, or even been able to determine why the other side has a legitimate case. But I accept that maybe lots of newbies do find it useful. I wasn't one of them. Today, all that pressure marketing seems to have died down. And honestly, I don't know if Norm was to blame or if it was the people on the board--but I'd imagine it was a combo. But today, I don't notice it at all. Not even pressure to subscribe. And I think that's good.

    As for ZG, I never saw any indication he was trying to screw over anyone for gain. He was my favorite poster at BJTF. I'd see posts where he'd say ridiculous things, probably in an effort to entertain himself by tricking a newbie into believing something insane. So what? I do the same thing. There's no profit motive. Fight Club was before my time, but I think I would have enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    I always thought Norm was trying to fleece people on software, at least, back in the day. Not really anymore. I had two reasons for thinking that. 1) I was constantly being pressured to buy it, even though I had come there to ask questions (like you might go to a 'help my computer's broke' forum. And now people are trying to get money out of my wallet.) 2) I never saw any use for it for a newbie, part-time red-chipper. I still don't.
    Now, I seem to be in the minority on that view. I haven't been convinced I'm wrong, or even been able to determine why the other side has a legitimate case. But I accept that maybe lots of newbies do find it useful. I wasn't one of them. Today, all that pressure marketing seems to have died down. And honestly, I don't know if Norm was to blame or if it was the people on the board--but I'd imagine it was a combo. But today, I don't notice it at all. Not even pressure to subscribe. And I think that's good.

    As for ZG, I never saw any indication he was trying to screw over anyone for gain. He was my favorite poster at BJTF. I'd see posts where he'd say ridiculous things, probably in an effort to entertain himself by tricking a newbie into believing something insane. So what? I do the same thing. There's no profit motive. Fight Club was before my time, but I think I would have enjoyed it.
    I saw the Grifter was here yesterday, and I hope he decides to join the discussion here.

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    You guys reading that Search at Will thread? It degenerated into talking about my banning for 3 pages. I like when I'm referred to as the Great and Powerful Boz. I didn't read anything going on there until today.

    There's a newbie on there. He's a bit confrontational. And I was helping him because he was running into the same problem I had when I came there--ask a question, get completely irrelevant responses. So I was trying to explain to him that T3's claims are false and do not waste time trying to follow his lead; I'll explain my similar count in 5 minutes (that's 4 years in T3 time) and why everything he says is nonsense. Then the Norm hit the ban button. So newbile posts "WTF where's Boz?" Of course, Norm was waiting for that so he could proudly declare I was banned and he saved the forum from imminent doom. Now I'm paraphrasing here, but he basically goes on to say Boz has joined in the antisemitic attacks against me and accusations that I caused ebola deaths that were linked to 9/11. The newbie's like "What? I have trouble believing that. I would like a link to see this for myself." Norm then goes on a rant about his victimization over the years and finishes with I don't have time for this. The newbie replies "I don't know what you're talking about, but you seem to be ignoring my question and belittling me. I don't have time for this either." Norm then implied I was banned at Ken's site, assuming I'm one of "most of the people at the antisemitism site." The implication arises because the newbie wants a link to the site and obviously has no clue where banned APs might post; it's a completely pointless statement unless it's a character attack. I'm not sure which site Ken owned before I counted cards, but I wasn't banned from it, nor is it relevant. He did say I wasn't perma-banned yet, which is a little shocking. Fairness creeping in? Or will I try to login and see I'm banned until 2018?
    Norm went on to attack me while I couldn't respond for "attacking members of the site when they couldn't respond," among other things. Hmmm? Well no, Lady Tthree is not members, it's one member. And as Villiam rightly suggests, I'm here for a reason. I couldn't respond to T3's inciting comments. Everything was removed or immediately warned--except for five short, fairly benign posts (5-day suspension?). As a little disclaimer, out of fairness, maybe I'm completely wrong and it was all cosmic coincidence. But the appearance of impropriety is still bad and was not addressed or remedied. Anyway, sure, Norm did have one legit claim against me. That I made some random remarks that were beyond the pale previous to the MO thread--I'm a clown, I rile people up, and sometimes people get offended--and not all of it can be attributed to being thin-skinned--some blame lies with me. But here's the problem with that. I mention the Wizard of Odds in a post regarding his overactive moderation style--post busted. I mentioned when Norm slightly disapproves of a viewpoint everyone starts attacking the poster, in an attempt to DISCOURAGE picking on a poster who was being berated--post busted. I called someone a paranoid schizo--light warning. As you might be able to tell from those examples, it's difficult to get a grip on what's permissible and what's not because Norm is WHOLLY inconsistent--he's a fair-weather suspension-hander-outer. He wants to be worshiped; he's never made a mistake from what I can recall. And T3 is his biggest ally in that department. Innocent posts are busted. Dickish ones are sometimes encouraged. I use my best judgment. 90% of my posts are edited--indicating I put careful consideration into every post. Yes, I do try to get as close to the line as possible--I walk the edge in everything. That annoys people in real life too, I can't blame Norm for not liking ME--but isn't that part of the AP job description (and a lawyer, for that matter) AND isn't it stupid to take MY personality personally? I try to stay on the right side of the line, but if you change the line every 5 minutes, well screw you then. Don't blame me like I'm full of malice.

    Some of my posts you could have handed out a temp ban on, and I would have understood. You were blatantly protecting T3 from posts nowhere near my worst and are now lying about me--when I can't respond. I'm attacking T3--I'm not lying about him. I want to be even. Everything I said can be referenced--I often use quotes for paraphrases to indicate a meaning so accurate, it may as well be quoted. You just make shit up. Anyone can read this and know I'm not an antisemite or advocating you had something to do with 9/11--so feel free to post a link. And everything I've said is just an uncensored version, without emotion, of how I see the truth. I don't know much about the BJ HOF, but I can't imagine someone with your propensity for madness would be a candidate, despite any unique contributions. And that, to me, makes endorsements from others ring a bit hollow. People hate you and endorse your software. I don't hate you and I have nothing to say about it. I could invent a car shaped like a square and everyone would agree it's the best Polygon-Car on the market. Get my point about hollowness? Everything you say is jaded by lies, so why would any particular thing you say be the exception? Who's going to vouch for you, besides Lady Tthree? BTW, obviously, I know this kind of honesty is forbidden on your site, so you haven't been THAT inconsistent. I was banned because I posted in the ZZ--or because of trying to get my fair shot at T3--or both. I would destroy T3 in a fight that he started by going for the weak spots. I would have destroyed you had you attempted to save him and/or played fair. You refused to allow it and refused to censor the instigator. Why lie and say I was banned for something else? Sugar-coat it fine, but now I'm an anti-Semite? You act like a politician, not a forum manager. Politicians get paid for warping the truth; it's their job. You brag that you do it for free.

    This is supposed to have virtually nothing to do with you. Everyone here has an issue with you, likely for good reason; so you probably should quit steering the course of the thread towards yourself. It's a free country...and most of the things I said weren't that bad--you can hardly disagree with a lot of it. Unless you actually think you were telling the truth about my joining in on antisemetic attacks--I'd like to see the link too!! That is more idiotic than T3's spy accusation and it barely warrants direct refutation. But when you call me an anti-Semite you are going to get brutalized. I more than welcome you to refute my "lies;" ask ZG for a day-pass. Where the hell else would I go besides the site where "most of the banned APs go"? A place where no one heard of Lady Tthree? I doubt my thread would get much traction. The truth hurts way more than bogus lies that you accuse others of circulating. Why would I post lies when I know that? It pisses me off that you are monitoring my behavior and commenting on it. You're asking to get ragged on. You don't go around calling people anti-Semites without a damn good reason. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you seriously confused as to why people might not be your biggest fans? You should have learned something in the MO dispute about conclusory statements, but I guess not. Villiam called you out on your transparent bullshit, and no offense to him, but I doubt he's the smartest person over there. So I ask you again, who do you think you're fooling? Instead of viewing everything as an attack, why don't you look at it as an objective assessment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    Yeah, right. Norm argue someone without a clear advantage? That will be the day. Same with Lady Tthree. Even making peace is beyond the both of them. Although, I think Norm is able to let bygones be bygones after a long period of time if there has been no activity, which is sort of making peace. I think Norm's a half-way decent guy. As a moderator, he probably does a better job than most--most of the time. But he doesn't really seem to respect other people's intelligence and he's a micro-manager.
    Yes, he wants to read what is being wrote about him on the ZZ, why don't he just come on over and work it out. As a moderator he needs to learn how to respect the thoughts of others without banning people when he is being a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    There's a newbie on there. He's a bit confrontational. And I was helping him because he was running into the same problem I had when I came there--ask a question, get completely irrelevant responses. So I was trying to explain to him that T3's claims are false and do not waste time trying to follow his lead.
    And now with you gone, your newbie friend "villain", has begun to kiss up to both T3 and Norm and is seeking guidance from T3.

    Similarly there is a different, fairly new player, LoneWolf, that is talking about moving to Las Vegas and playing a small rotation of games with a max bet in the 2x300 range. Although I was gone from BJTF before he joined, he must have read some of my posts, as he specifically mentioned something about following my game plan. I would love to offer him some thoughts based on my own experience, but he doesn't get the benefit of that option. Both these newer type player have one singular option available to them on that site, and that is listening to a load of crap and following the fraud known a T3, down the yellow brick road to a fantasy land that doesn't exist.

    And that in a nutshell is what's wrong with what Normy's site has become. Norm has taken away all options for these newer guys. They get to hear a singular line of advice and it is total fiction.

    Good job, Norm. You are following in the footsteps of Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-un. You offer a single vision and eliminate anyone that has a differing opinion. (and now Norm will take what I just said completely out of context and cry "oh he's comparing me to dictators that killed tens of thousands of people").
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post

    Good job, Norm. You are following in the footsteps of Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-un. You offer a single vision and eliminate anyone that has a differing opinion. (and now Norm will take what I just said completely out of context and cry "oh he's comparing me to dictators that killed tens of thousands of people").
    OMG, I think you're right. It's starting to become clear where he's getting all his material. He makes something up out of thin air and inserts a tiny grain of truth somewhere in it. He obviously can't reference anything he says because that show its falsity.

    I'm pretty sure you and Lonewolf know each other. He's not a T3 fan. Let's just leave it at that.

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    That site is controlled by a gang (T3, Flush, Mouses, Fartmen, etc). Anyone expressing different opinions will be attacked. If you attack back, the dictator will hit you. You cannot even dislike T3's posts because you can be called unfair and get warnings from the dictator. T3 can only talk and has no data to support his crap. Only beginners can be impressed by his BS!
    After over 10000 BS bragging posts, it turns out that T3 doesn't even play BJ! What a damn joke, LOL!
    T3 is no threat to any casino because he spends most of his time bragging on BTF.
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