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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post

    Thanks for the warm welcome. It's nice to be able to speak freely. When's Zengrifter gonna chime in? I know him and Lady Tthree used to be roommates and they had a falling out...sounds like a low budget movie idea?
    As you know, the owner of the Zen Zone is still Zengrifter. He has taken only token interest here in recent times but he is still about. I believe he had a gutful of N0rm and N0rm's arse lickers who mostly believed what N0rman wrote. But that is all now history and probably best left in its own cesspool.

    But on the other hand, the raw deal Zen got from N0rm has kinda come back to haunt him. The whole thing damaged credibility and now maybe the chickens are coming home to roost... after all this time.

    I have a feeling Zg will show up soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    As you know, the owner of the Zen Zone is still Zengrifter. He has taken only token interest here in recent times but he is still about. I believe he had a gutful of N0rm and N0rm's arse lickers who mostly believed what N0rman wrote. But that is all now history and probably best left in its own cesspool.

    But on the other hand, the raw deal Zen got from N0rm has kinda come back to haunt him. The whole thing damaged credibility and now maybe the chickens are coming home to roost... after all this time.

    I have a feeling Zg will show up soon.
    ZG better show, this is invite only forum. Plus, I could use an LV job reference. I wanna get out there so I can get back to the craft.

    I never fully understood the Norm and ZG feud. I thought I did when I read it way back when. T3 hates ZG, ZG thinks it's funny, Norm annoyed, ZG temporarily suspended. That was the gist of it. Then suddenly, all of ZG's stuff is deleted. Permanent ban. I remember making a dupe account on there because I was banned...I mentioned ZG and he flips out. And thought I was either ZG or from this site. Just mentioning ZG subjected you to harassment, and then an IP check. And of course, I was banned, so the ends justified the means.

    What's the inside joke on spelling Norm's name wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    Thorpe invented the Thorpe ultimate count. Uston came up with the Uston Advanced point count. Both extremely powerful on paper. But guess what....neither of these guys played these counts with their names attached, because they just weren't applicable in real life casino play. Those little extra mathematical advantages that showed up on paper and in todays world, simulations, don't materialize in real world play. They are just a mathematical exercise on paper, not applicable in the real world. In other words...that's not what it takes to actually win. And that's why both these real blackjack guys actually played simpler counts than the advanced counts that bare their names.

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    I thought Uston used RAPC KJ, a level 4 count. The tag values seems similar to UAPC with a few minor differences regarding tag values. I would have to think that UAPC is still applicable in today's blackjack games being offered for a player that can utilize Ken's system. It's difficult tracking aces in a 6D game using UAPC and I don't want to develop a mnemonic to do so. SD or DD is not that difficult to track aces for 1 player in my opinion.

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    You get better BC and IC with Hi-opt 2. UAPC is totally worthless compared to learning more indices. The difference between perfect play in the two counts is smaller than the difference between Hi-opt 2 and a level 2 ace-reckoned count. No one would recommend UAPC unless they were on drugs. Someone who wanted to attack SD or DD with a sophisticated count would use Gordon or some variant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    ZG better show, this is invite only forum. Plus, I could use an LV job reference.
    Last I talked to ZG, a few months back, he was living in Vegas, in some sort of communal, co-op living arrangement and he was an uber driver. So call for uber and you might just get ZG himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    No one would recommend UAPC unless they were on drugs. Someone who wanted to attack SD or DD with a sophisticated count would use Gordon or some variant.
    Does Mary Jane count? A few weeks ago I was all-in pre-flop on a particular hand in poker and after seeing the flop, I was able to see how some of Ken's knowledge about Blackjack card playing came into play on this poker hand I was in at the moment, the section he wrote about ace tracking in a deck but I thought of that lesson being applied to another card, the card I needed to win. My KQ vs. AA pre-flop, the flop came 9 J J, another player who folded pre-flop exposed his two hole cards afterwards to where I seen an ace with no ten. I figured everyone else in the hand must not have had a ten in their hand and I liked my chances of hitting on the turn or river even though I needed help. So when the flop was dealt 9 cards were exposed with an unknown burn card, 10 total. The 11th card was the second burn card and the 12th card was a TEN which I called out which gave me a straight to the King to win the hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    What's the inside joke on spelling Norm's name wrong?
    M0rmon used to battle Lord Parpaluck and ZG because Saliu dot com and ZZ appeared before M0rmon websites on searches of M0rmon's (unadulterated) name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post

    What's the inside joke on spelling Norm's name wrong?
    Here on the ZZ, the blow-by-blow history of the N0rm/ZG feud is available on clicks. Of course, Saliu.com is also mixed up in all that as that is another long-running er, clash of um, ideas. From the long saga on those issues here, plays on words began, ending with N0rm, N0rman, Morm, M0rm, Morman and so on. N0rm was once a long-time ZZ contributor, [+500 posts] going back to the Ken Smith days, when he and ZG were er, compatriots in the same game of trying to lever cash out of casino cards.

    As for the charlatan and fraud Lady Three, she has +800 posts for posterity right here on the ZZ. In a nutshell, these contain many references to her devout Christian beliefs, as well as references to how her Conversations with Gawd saved her from an early demise, as well as from cancer. Plus we learned how she is an expert hunter and markswoman who loves shooting defenceless animals like deer, who cannot shoot back. She also told us how many times she spotted UFOs in the wilderness, while dodging rattlers, man-eating bears and gawd only knows what else. All the while, she was protected by god... her god Yahweh, that is. Could be Allah for all I know. Brief ZZ history lesson now ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodo View Post
    M0rmon used to battle Lord Parpaluck and ZG because Saliu dot com and ZZ appeared before M0rmon websites on searches of M0rmon's (unadulterated) name.
    LOL I thought it might be a copyright joke. Norm once threatened to get an FBI task force to arrest me for cybertrespassing on his site. Although his threat was completely insane and without any basis in reality or law, I did take it as a hint that making a fourth new identity might lead him to try and vindictively sue me. So I kept my distance. He's like a super wimpy version of Gran Turino; but in both cases, it's probably better not to mess with the guy. After maybe six months, it did occur to me that I had been encroaching on his rights as a private owner and sent him an apology letter; I probably would have been pissed too, his irritability (not his commentary per se) was justified.

    Parpaluck is a nutcase. I'd call him a charlatan too, except he might actually believe the nonsense he says, and I doubt anyone would buy that useless shit he peddles. He's the most disturbed gambling poster I've ever come across. Lord Parpaluck is the Lord of Ward 7.
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    This is all very interesting "Stuff" and goes back many years, years that I will always remember as very interesting for a younger guy with boundless energy, unlike the older guy I have morphed into today, 5 Grand children and all, that really have become my top priority, BJ a far 2nd, but I can and still get in the "Zone".

    I am concerned about how Zman is making out these days, last I spoke with him he was working in Colorado, not all that long ago. I miss him posting on the site and want him to know that some of us here, maybe all, miss him very much and hope he is well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    In what thread did all this happen Boz? I don't even read Stinky's site any more. It really has become a complete voodoo site with no value.

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    KJ it seems like Norman gave a response in the thread, "It's getting closer and closer to search at will." #65 Fanning the flames of friendship. Name:  KJ & Norman.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    Parpaluck is a nutcase. I'd call him a charlatan too, except he might actually believe the nonsense he says, and I doubt anyone would buy that useless shit he peddles. He's the most disturbed gambling poster I've ever come across. Lord Parpaluck is the Lord of Ward 7.
    Parpa should come back and program a Spanish 21 game similar to that splitorhit game which I can no longer access the page to or play for whatever reasons. Do not do it for me, do it for the ZenZone Parpaluck. Make yourself useful to the ZenZone! It sucks that I cannot play the Spanish 21 game anymore!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    KJ it seems like Norman gave a response in the thread, "It's getting closer and closer to search at will." #65 Fanning the flames of friendship. Attachment 28801
    Does anybody ever wonder why Norm reads all these "anti-semite" sites? He's also so "busy", is this what he's doing all day? Is THIS the anti-semite site? If I had to characterize it, I'd call it a conspiracy theorist site. Sure, it's probably got some hate stuff somewhere. But I'm sure less of that than AP stuff. And no offense, but I wouldn't call this an AP site. Why doesn't he call all these sites "free speech" sites? We all know that's his real problem. It's no different than calling Norm's site a voodoo site because it has a disadvantage forum. He loves to lie to people by giving unfair assessments. How come he never mentions he used to be an active poster on "anti-semite" sites himself? And that on those sites, he made as many anti-semitic remarks as KJ? Accurate, is it not? Some of these KJ rants are so obviously false and misleading, they are bordering on libel or false light (KJ--anti-semite?). Maybe he should check himself. I have no interest in inflaming the situation; my interest is to discourage erroneous characterizations as I've been similarly victimized by his half-wit marginalization tactics.

    He mentioned death threats. I am aware of one against the Wizard. Although it pretty clearly wasn't real, that is totally uncalled for and deserved condemnation and reporting to authorities. I understand the irritation there; Norm shouldn't tolerate death threats. But everything else is just slanting public view by playing victim. It's tired. You trash everybody behind close doors, mischaracterize people's views, and then whine when they talk about you with their power of free speech. There's no disruption to your site; you go out looking for it. You want something to be mad about. How many friggin times did I get accused of things (my signature that you wrote, other posters with same handles as me) just because you were scrutinizing me, looking for something to bitch about? One of your major gripes, that I've read, is that people use your real name--but your avatar IS your real name. Why don't you get an avatar? You cause 50% of the conversation by reacting to it! Do you see Shakleford whining publicly every 5 minutes? People hate him as much as you, I'd imagine--but I don't even know his first name. Boo hoo. You're supposed to be running a blackjack site, not a whining contest. Anyway, Lady Tthree is a better whiner than you. Let him pinch hit. I only want to talk about Lady Tthree...Norm hijacked this thread because he wasn't getting enough negative attention! Ask ZG to allow you to come here and defend that charlatan. Or butt out and let us have our discussion without jumping into the middle of it and then fainting. And if you don't like what KJ says on this site or some other, friggin ignore it. Do you really think anyone, besides Lady Tthree, gives a shit that some random person somewhere hates you? No one cares. And if you're trolling, which you shouldn't be but probably are, this isn't an attack. This is just an objective point of view man. Now, Lady Tthree, yeah, I'm attacking her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz View Post
    Does anybody ever wonder why Norm reads all these "anti-semite" sites? He's also so "busy", is this what he's doing all day? Is THIS the anti-semite site? If I had to characterize it, I'd call it a conspiracy theorist site. Sure, it's probably got some hate stuff. But I'm sure less of that an AP stuff. And no offense, but I wouldn't call this an AP site. Why doesn't he call all these sites "free speech" sites? We all know that's his real problem.

    He mentioned death threats. I am aware of one against the Wizard. Although it pretty clearly wasn't real, that is totally uncalled for and deserved condemnation and reporting to authorities. I understand the irritation there. But everything else is just slanting public view by playing victim. It's tired. You trash everybody behind close doors, mischaracterize people's views, and then whine when they talk about you with their power of free speech. Boo hoo. You're supposed to be running a blackjack site, not a whining contest. Anyway, Lady Tthree is a better whiner than you. Let him pinch hit.
    Norman has got to be a big fan of the ZenZone. It's the only thing I can think of. He cannot stay away. He should come here and address the issue with KJ, clear the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Norman has got to be a big fan of the ZenZone. It's the only thing I can think of. He cannot stay away. He should come here and address the issue with KJ, clear the air.
    Yeah, right. Norm argue someone without a clear advantage? That will be the day. Same with Lady Tthree. Even making peace is beyond the both of them. Although, I think Norm is able to let bygones be bygones after a long period of time if there has been no activity, which is sort of making peace. I think Norm's a half-way decent guy. As a moderator, he probably does a better job than most--most of the time. But he doesn't really seem to respect other people's intelligence and he's a micro-manager.
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