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    Default Some Brilliant Baccarat Stuff

    http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/133...y#.VWbUcM-qqko

    http://albalaha.lefora.com/forums/13...n#.VWbVRs-qqko

    Hi All,
    I have been meaning to post a simple bet selection method I have been using on and of for quite a while now, it is so easy you don't even need to right anything down while playing, all the information you need is on the scoreboard.

    I plays just as well on Baccarat as it dose on Roulette, Here goes
    You look back over the last three spins/hands

    If you see AAA bet A
    If you see AAB bet B
    If you see ABB bet B
    If you see ABA bet B

    That's it nothing else to it, now we all know ever bet selection method has it's weak point and my bet selection method it is this pattern AABAABAAB that is the only pattern that can produce a long losing streak, and yes it has happened in the past, but not enough to stop me making a consistant profit with this simple method.
    Last edited by Katz; May 28th, 2015 at 04:56 AM.

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    A preview of some brilliant baccarat stuff to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/133...y#.VWbUcM-qqko

    http://albalaha.lefora.com/forums/13...n#.VWbVRs-qqko

    Hi All,
    I have been meaning to post a simple bet selection method I have been using on and of for quite a while now, it is so easy you don't even need to right anything down while playing, all the information you need is on the scoreboard.

    I plays just as well on Baccarat as it dose on Roulette, Here goes
    You look back over the last three spins/hands

    If you see AAA bet A
    If you see AAB bet B
    If you see ABB bet B
    If you see ABA bet B

    That's it nothing else to it, now we all know ever bet selection method has it's weak point and my bet selection method it is this pattern AABAABAAB that is the only pattern that can produce a long losing streak, and yes it has happened in the past, but not enough to stop me making a consistant profit with this simple method.
    This doesn't help any of us that need a mathematical edge before we bet money, does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengarlicky View Post
    This doesn't help any of us that need a mathematical edge before we bet money, does it?
    Maybe it does. As any discussion on any casino game could cause a change in thinking patterns and stimulate further investigations of various hitherto-unexplored avenues, then maybe there could be rewards for the open-minded and dedicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Maybe it does. As any discussion on any casino game could cause a change in thinking patterns and stimulate further investigations of various hitherto-unexplored avenues, then maybe there could be rewards for the open-minded and dedicated.
    It's patent voodoo logic. Might as well start a church. At least it will get tax-free status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengarlicky View Post
    It's patent voodoo logic. Might as well start a church. At least it will get tax-free status.
    In Blackjack, even if you have the advantage of a positive count, the dealer hand has the same chance as the player of getting favourable cards. Even when you have an advantage, variance can still raise its ugly head and send you broke.

    With Baccarat, is there or was there ever a 'winning system' that is or was not voodoo? We accept that progressions will send you broke eventually, in the long term. But none of us ever plays any casino game in the long term. This is why I believe it is more than possible that people out there have indeed made voodoo and progressions work for them.

    In the Baccarat stuff above, there is some gold for those willing to search. It says common patterns occur in most all baccarat shoes. I notice this myself over years. I have had some luck and made money with this. Of course it is voodoo. But if it works, who gives a F what it is called...

    The idea goes like this. One of many patterns that can occur is: PPBBBBPBPPPPBBBPBPPPBPBPPBPPBPBBBPPBPBPPPPBPBBPBBPBBP


    I highlighted those last ten results showing the obvious pattern. Baccarat has about 82 results for one six-deck shoe, so it takes time. This theoretical pattern starts after about 40 results, but it is one of many common patterns in this game.

    I like to start with $100 or $150 bet when I think this is a pattern I can bet on, and begin after 4, 5 or 6 results, looking for 3 wins consecutively, doubling up each time. If successful, I am now $400 ($600) up, but if I lose one of my all-up bets, I have lost $100 ($150). Try again next shoe, or another table.

    But Baccarat is a slow game, unlike blackjack... so extreme patience and discipline is required. Without those qualities, don't even think about it. Why not check it out for yourself next time you are in the bacca section...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    In Blackjack, even if you have the advantage of a positive count, the dealer hand has the same chance as the player of getting favourable cards. Even when you have an advantage, variance can still raise its ugly head and send you broke.

    With Baccarat, is there or was there ever a 'winning system' that is or was not voodoo? We accept that progressions will send you broke eventually, in the long term. But none of us ever plays any casino game in the long term. This is why I believe it is more than possible that people out there have indeed made voodoo and progressions work for them.

    In the Baccarat stuff above, there is some gold for those willing to search. It says common patterns occur in most all baccarat shoes. I notice this myself over years. I have had some luck and made money with this. Of course it is voodoo. But if it works, who gives a F what it is called...

    The idea goes like this. One of many patterns that can occur is: PPBBBBPBPPPPBBBPBPPPBPBPPBPPBPBBBPPBPBPPPPBPBBPBBPBBP


    I highlighted those last ten results showing the obvious pattern. Baccarat has about 82 results for one six-deck shoe, so it takes time. This theoretical pattern starts after about 40 results, but it is one of many common patterns in this game.

    I like to start with $100 or $150 bet when I think this is a pattern I can bet on, and begin after 4, 5 or 6 results, looking for 3 wins consecutively, doubling up each time. If successful, I am now $400 ($600) up, but if I lose one of my all-up bets, I have lost $100 ($150). Try again next shoe, or another table.

    But Baccarat is a slow game, unlike blackjack... so extreme patience and discipline is required. Without those qualities, don't even think about it. Why not check it out for yourself next time you are in the bacca section...
    I'm still skeptical. I don't patronize the bacca tables because I'm too busy playing blackjack or spanish. And when not doing that, I'm playing poker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Maybe it does. As any discussion on any casino game could cause a change in thinking patterns and stimulate further investigations of various hitherto-unexplored avenues, then maybe there could be rewards for the open-minded and dedicated.
    I doubt any "breakthru" that otherwise violates Bayes Theorm will ever be validated for scientific casino play.

    The one below can be simulated and it will show NO amelioration of house-edge.
    If you see AAA bet A
    If you see AAB bet B
    If you see ABB bet B
    If you see ABA bet B
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    I doubt any "breakthru" that otherwise violates Bayes Theorm will ever be validated for scientific casino play.

    The one below can be simulated and it will show NO amelioration of house-edge.
    If you see AAA bet A
    If you see AAB bet B
    If you see ABB bet B
    If you see ABA bet B
    Amerelioration schmeliaration. If somebody says they made that voodoo work, well, maybe they did. Perhaps you now got the truth because N0rm proved it with ten trillion sims?

    Hmmm, Bayes [1701-1761] theorem must have killed him at the ripe old age of just 60. As Dr Automonk is fond of saying, Wiki is not a good reference. I need further different views on Mister Bayes. I'm considering asking another Math expert, one Dr Parpa Luck, for his considered opinion on how Bayes ideas relate to casino games of chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Amerelioration schmeliaration. If somebody says they made that voodoo work, well, maybe they did.
    No, just lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    A preview of some brilliant baccarat stuff to come

    Impressive!
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    I've never played baccarat before but the game does looks like it would be fun to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    I've never played baccarat before but the game does looks like it would be fun to play.
    Only ifn you win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengarlicky View Post
    It's patent voodoo logic. Might as well start a church. At least it will get tax-free status.
    I'm thinking of a blackjack+psychedelics church, could use my lifetime ordination from Universal Life Church?
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    Cool Fun With Variance

    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Only [if] you win.
    For the past three months, i have been batting about .250 betting medium black at baccarat playing twice weekly. My blackjack session win rate has been about the same.

    Anyone care to bankroll me while i am on a anti-rush?
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