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    Default 10 Lies to Congress from the Mad Netanyahu

    For Monsignor, this one's for you ...

    Here’s our rundown of the Top 10 points from his speech proving that Netanyahu has lost the plot…

    Number One


    “I deeply regret that some perceive my being here as political.”


    Despite his opening rhetoric praising Obama, Netanyahu and the U.S. President have been known to be in what some have dubbed a hate-hate relationship. This accelerated after Obama won his second-term election, setting Netanyahu’s Republican and Neocon-friendly agenda back at least another four years. His speech in Congress has been seen as a massive breach in diplomatic protocol; so of course his presence is political and it would be crazy to think otherwise.


    Number Two


    “The remarkable alliance between Israel and the United States has always been above politics and it must always remain above politics.”


    Contrary to popular belief Israel and United States are not, at least officially, allies. There is no treaty between the two states detailing any mutual obligations, which stems back to American ties with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; as it would be much harder for the Saudis to work with the U.S. if they were ‘officially’ tied to Israel. If it so wished, the United States could drop Israel literally overnight. So, it might be crazy to assume an alliance, especially with the presence of the tensions mentioned above.


    Number Three


    “In 1979 Iran was hijacked by religious zealots.”


    Interestingly, Netanyahu failed to mention Operation Ajax. This was a covert operation led by the American CIA and British MI6 to ‘hijack’ Iran from the rule of the democratically elected Mohammad Mossadegh, who had refused foreign companies access to Iran’s oil fields, and install the Shah; who promised to do the opposite. Calling the 1979 Iranian revolution a ‘hijacking’ is crazy; it wasn’t pretty, but it happened and the Anglo-Americans have been unable to exercise economic and political control over Iran ever since – and this is why Iran is constantly framed as an enemy to this day.


    Number Four


    “Backed by Iran Assad is slaughtering Syrians, backed by Iran Shi’ite militias are rampaging through Iraq, backed by Iran Houthis are seizing control of Yemen; threatening the strategic straights at the mouth of the Red Sea. Along with the Straight of Hormuz, that would give Iran a second choke point on the world’s oil supply.


    Where do we start with this one? Assad is fighting off an invading army of foreign terrorists, and has said himself that civilian casualties are the unfortunate reality of war – like they would be in any country facing the same situation. Netanyahu’s comments mentioning ‘strategic’ points should be recognised as carefully assembled talking points for a war agenda. He is implying that such ‘strategic’ elements should not be allowed to be under Iranian control. It is crazy to think that Iran should not have a sphere of influence like every other powerful country on Earth.


    Number Five


    “Iran is now gobbling up the nations! We must all stand together to stop Iran’s march of conquest, subjugation and terror.”


    Now we’re really getting into the depths of Netanyahu’s special breed of crazy. Where exactly is this ‘march of conquest’ occurring? Netanyahu makes reference to Iranian support for Assad and Hezbollah, but in what way is this any different from American support for the Kiev coup-installed leaders and rebels in Syria?


    If we want to talk about conquest, we should really examine the case of Israel’s conquest via the building of illegal settlements on Palestinian land; some would go as far to argue that the entire state of Israel is itself an illegal entity.


    Number 6


    “Don’t be fooled, the battle between Iran and ISIS doesn’t turn Iran into a friend of America. Iran and ISIS are competing for the crown of militant Islam … In this deadly ‘game of thrones’ there is no place for America or Israel.”


    By invoking the title of a popular TV series, ‘Game of Thrones‘, Netanyahu and his controllers are undoubtedly attempting to appeal to a wider, perhaps non-politically inclined, dumbed-down audience; in the hope that this quote will run in headlines to attract the a few young clicks of the general public. Psychological factors aside, Iran’s competition for the crown of Islam is actually waged with Saudi Arabia. It would be crazy to think that Iran cannot help in the fight against ISIS, in fact, now that is the recommended course of action from numerous mainstream analysts. So when you factor in Saudi Arabia and Qatar’s support of ISIS and al Nusra terrorists, then Iran is genuinely at war with Saudi Arabia now. So even by Washington’s measure, Iran is on the right side of the War Against ISIS, but Saudi Arabia may not be.


    Number Seven


    “Like North Korea, Iran too has defied international inspectors … like North Korea Iran broke the locks and shut off the cameras … Iran not only defies inspectors, it also plays a game of hide and cheat with them … Right now Iran could be hiding more facilities we don’t know about.


    When discussing a hidden nuclear program, no discussion can be complete without mentioning Israel itself. The Israelis have ‘been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s‘. This fact is conveniently ignored by Western powers. When does Netanyahu plan on allowing IAEA inspections of his nuclear facilities and weapons? Not only is it crazy, but, it’s also immensely hypocritical to try and hold Iran to some gold-standard of nuclear activities when the Israelis themselves fail meet the same standards.


    Number Eight


    “I don’t believe Iran’s radical regime will change for the better after this deal …
    .... its voracious appetite for aggression grows with each passing year.”



    More over-the-top, loaded language. We’ve already discussed above that Iran is far from aggressive, and unlike Israel, it has not repeatedly attacked or invaded its neighbors ‘preemptively’. An ‘appetite for aggression’ is what Netanyahu himself seems to have. Consider last summer’s IDF attack on Gaza under Operation Protective Edge. The original aim of this was to stop homemade rocket fire from Gaza into Israel, which expanded into a ground invasion aimed at destroying “secret tunnels” used to infiltrate Israel. Approximately 2,300 Gazans were killed, over 500 of those were children, and over 50,000 homes were also destroyed by the IDF. If Netanyahu doesn’t see that as aggression, he’s either hiding his own hypocrisy, or he’s crazy.


    He doesn’t even like it when Iran is fighting ISIS:
    “When it comes to Iran and ISIS, the enemy of your enemy… is your enemy!” , quipped Netanyahu
    The ravings of a madman? He’s just making it up as he goes along.


    Number Nine

    “Stop threatening to annihilate my country, Israel, the one and only Jewish state …
    ... If Iran wishes to be treated like a normal country let it act like a normal country.”



    Just because Israel is the only ‘Jewish State’ does not necessarily mean that it is the best Jewish state it could possibly be. Moreover, a normal country, in the Westphalian sense, is a nation state that has exclusive control over its territory and domestic political decisions; it is sovereign. Iran is a sovereign state. So what does Netanyahu mean by a ‘normal country’? One that bends to the will of the Anglo-American oligarchy? One that holds 4.5 million Palestinians in a giant open prison system? One could make the argument that Israel is not a sovereign state, at least to some extent, due to its vast dependence on foreign aid; which invariably influences its domestic political decisions. Attempting to frame Iran as out of the ordinary is simply crazy, just look at how booming and modern Tehran is today.


    Number Ten


    “I can guarantee you this. The days when the Jewish people remained passive in the face of genocidal enemies, those days are over … I can promise you one more thing, even if Israel has to stand alone Israel will stand. But I know that Israel does not stand alone, I know that America stands with Israel, I know that you stand with Israel.”


    Hold on a second. When were the ‘days when the Jewish people remained passive’? The methods and organization of the Nazis in their hostilities against the Jewish populations were indeed historic in their brutality, yet, not all Jewish people ‘remained passive in the face of genocidal enemies’, and to use such a sweeping statement is crazy as it dishonours both their name and actions. The Jewish Militias mounted a valiant and fierce resistance during uprisings that occurred in numerous ghettos and concentration camps, while some Jews even managed to assassinate Nazi leaders.
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    "Those who disrespected the Israeli Prime Minister and sided with Obama tell it all. To borrow idioms from the mid-twentieth century, they were all far left wing, pablum-puking, bleeding heart liberals. All the rest of the country applauded the Prime Minister who spoke with Reagan-like clarity, statesmanship, courage, and resolve, even Democrats who attended the historical meeting. Even Nancy Pelosi stood over and over again applauding the Prime Minister.

    This is a turning point in world history, and I can only hope that Bibi's speech will throw a monkey wrench into the ongoing capitulation to Iran that goes by the name of a negotiated deal and result in the reshaping of a deal that best represents the interests of the U.S. and its allies. With the price of oil so cheap, strong sanctions have never been so effective. A real deal is possible, one that reflects the U.S. and its allies' best interests.

    Obama stated that the Prime Minister did not offer any alternative to the present deal being made. But, oh, that is not true! The Israeli head of state stated expressly that he had no problem with making a deal, but not a deal that gives away the store. The current "deal" is nothing short of assurance that Iran will obtain nuclear weapons. Couple an Iran having nuclear weapons with its current ICBM program and you have a situation resembling the old Soviet Union except that the new evil possessor of nuclear weapons and the capability to deliver them to the United States will be a fanatical, radical Islamic state that does not respond to reason as did the Soviets during 40 years of cold war. Such a state of the world would not be a return to former tensions, but a ratcheting up of former tensions with a greater risk of the ultimate worldwide nuclear holocaust than ever before.

    Am I therefore for war? No. Neither am I for capitulation to radical Islam. We are back at the beginning of World War II where the appeasers hide behind the veil of "peace advocates." Hitler would not go away if we just ignored his European aggressions, and neither will Iran go away if we just ignore their sponsorship of terrorism through HAMAS and Hezbollah, their development of nuclear weapons, and their ICBM program.

    What Obama wants is that war does not break out on his watch.
    But it will be the very deal that pushes war off a couple of years that also ensures that war will come.

    Some in their misguided thinking may see me as a coward and a traitor, but I say that all who wave the olive branch and speak, "Peace," are the cowards who lower their eyes so as not to see the machete poised above their heads to strike their necks-- and the traitors too afraid to stand strong and courageously against the evil specter of radical Islam. The far left is even afraid to name radical Islam, speaking instead of violent extremism in sundry places. ISIS and Iran now vie for dominance in militant Islamism. As the Prime Minister aptly pointed out, in this case, the enemy of your enemy is your enemy. That was a memorable line.

    Am I for war. No. But neither am I for a deal that only serves to save one's Presidential legacy." We have to remember that war was ongoing before the incumbent got elected. More wars have only broken out since the guy's been in office. In fact I believe that the world has never been more destabilized and is more chaotic since the incumbent took office.
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    The GOP frontrunner for the 2016 Presidential campaign has already taken up the role of Republican Party Leader. Israel's Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu not only addressed his GOP Congress, but also seems to be an ideal GOP candidate: He loves to bomb the Middle East, he will do anything to win an election, and enjoys meddling in other countries affairs!

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    The Netanyahu Speech: A 10-point deconstruction
    (1) Iran has not attacked another country since 1775.
    (2) The sanctions imposed are war crimes. They violate the Geneva Conventions of 1949.

    (3) Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapons program. Our intel agencies and Mossad agree.

    (4a) Iran is entitled to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes. So the US is violating the NPT.

    (4b) Iran has signed the NPT; Israel has not. The US is also violating it with new weapons.

    (5) Israel is the terrorist state. It commits atrocities in Argentina, which it blames on Iran.

    (6) Israel was complicit in 9/11, brought to us by the CIA, DoD Neo-Cons and the Mossad.

    (7) The Holocaust is but a prop. 6,000,000 Jews did not die in gas chambers using Zyklon B.

    (8) He is playing politics with Congress. He claims, “When Bibi speaks, the world listens!”

    (9) The leaders of Israel despise non-Jews. Consider the words of PM Menachem Begin.

    (10) We are doing the dirty work for Israel. Listen to Wesley Clark. The time has come to end it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    (1) Iran has not attacked another country since 1775.
    Could that be true?? We need a fact check here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    The GOP frontrunner for the 2016 Presidential campaign has already taken up the role of Republican Party Leader. Israel's Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu not only addressed his GOP Congress, but also seems to be an ideal GOP candidate: He loves to bomb the Middle East, he will do anything to win an election, and enjoys meddling in other countries affairs!
    Now that Benjamin Netanyahu has given his very own State of the Union address to a joint session of Congress, the partisan colonization of the world is in full swing! Netanyahu has clearly thrown his lot in with the Republicans, and virtually every Republican in Congress has jumped on the Bibi bandwagon. Gone are the days of a unified bipartisan stance toward Israel. With the Israeli government going Republican, what political party will other nations pick?


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    Bibi rocks the house!

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    Default Even the Jews in Israel are Fed Up with Bibi

    Anti-Netanyahu rally draws huge crowd in Israeli city





    Tens of thousands of Israelis have gathered at a Tel Aviv square calling for Benjamin Netanyahu to be replaced as the prime minister in national elections scheduled to be held on March 17.

    Police gave no official figures, but Israeli media said that about 30,000 people attended the rally on Saturday, which was held under the banner "Israel wants a change."

    The rally's keynote speaker was Meir Dagan, a former Mossad chief, who recently criticised Bibi's conduct and called him "the person who has caused the greatest strategic damage to Israel".

    "Bibi, you've failed, go home," the demonstrators chanted, referring to Netanyahu by his nickname.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...222711606.html

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    One Jew's opinion: "Netanyahu is a maniac."

    Afshin Rattansi goes underground on the recent Israeli attack on Gaza. Norman Finkelstein, author of ‘Method and Madness - The hidden story of Israel's assaults on Gaza’, says the Goldstone report was 'devastating' in its conclusion that Israel was trying to punish and humiliate the citizens of Gaza, and that Israel has a 'maniac' for a head of state.


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    As to the gumorous Jon Stewart quote from previous thread continued here... Jon Stewart was born a Jew.

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