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    Norm Wattenberger's BJ Forum now trumps Arnold Snyder's BJ Forum in Google search ...
    ... is that cheating or otherwise some sort of name-use-search hijacking?

    Or is 'Blackjack Forum' now another of those Watt-the F**k "trademarks"?

    > https://www.google.com/search?q=blackjack+forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Stanford Ferguson Wong is pissed because he can't even beat the Blizzard of Odds...
    Yes, but he didn't have naming rights to BLACKJACK FORUM...
    ... Blackjack Forum is Snyder's TRADEMARK!
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    Maybe it's just me, but when I look at Snyder's site I can't even see that they have a forum (as in a message board where people can post). All I know is that back when they for sure did have a message board, I quit looking at it because it was just junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canceler View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but when I look at Snyder's site I can't even see that they have a forum (as in a message board where people can post). All I know is that back when they for sure did have a message board, I quit looking at it because it was just junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canceler View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but when I look at Snyder's site I can't even see that they have a forum (as in a message board where people can post). All I know is that back when they for sure did have a message board, I quit looking at it because it was just junk.
    I think ZG's 'point' might be that no one rails against usurpation of long-established "trademark" more than you-know-who*, yet here
    a new Qfit-sponsored Blackjack Forum has gone out of it's way to carefully target-optimize for search domination of an established brand. No?

    ... * QFIT Norm Illicit Trademark-Use Allegation
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    I think ZG's 'point' might be that no one rails against usurpation of long-established "trademark" more than you-know-who*
    That’s what I was afraid this thread was about. And I’m glad you put “trademark” in quotes.

    So, the point is that Snyder has, or should have, the rights to a generic phrase like “blackjack forum”? Even though that site doesn’t have a blackjack forum as most people think of it? Or that it’s unfair, and somehow wrong, that Google lists a site that actually has a blackjack forum ahead of one that doesn’t?

    Seems kind of silly to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canceler View Post
    ... that Google lists a site that actually has a blackjack forum ahead of one that doesn’t?
    Seems kind of silly to me.
    Tend to agree, since Google is about user-experience and search relevance* ...
    ... but on the other hand, Snyder's trademark was purposely usurped in search results by intentful optimization.

    *Here is an example of search relevancy, the #2-3 most important site on the net, according to Google, Bing, Yahoo ...
    ... for info on N0rm@n WattenGerber is Saliu's rantings - Norm is working overtime to correct such blasphemy and rightly so.

    But should he have worked so hard to usurp another man's long-established trademark?
    Couldn't he have targeted other KWs without targeting existing trademark(s) that are not his own?
    Isn't the NORMal one all about the sanctity of intellectual property? Isn't IP-protection a fundamental cause that he trumpets?
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