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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    "I once lost 22 hands in a row. That took place at Fitzgerald's in Tunica. Henry Tamburin was at the table with me." ~ Frank Scoblete
    I've suspected Fitzgerald's of using shills at their Blackjack tables at certain hours or either their some of the worst BJ players in Tunica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Card counting on a good day...
    Damn straight!

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    Sounds like a terrible trip. If you were forever stuck in a 100-max town would you consider it playable long-term or not worth the effort?

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    Well, I didn't play that many hours in total...
    ... and my net loss at 3x100 max was only about -2300?
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    I guess it wasn't that bad at all. Could you estimate your real hourly EV, including doubling for less on 16, for your style and ramp here? And any other info that would be pertinent for counting in this scenario long-term? I know you'll have different pens and such but I'm just trying to get at how much or little one could have as an expectation in a $100-max town.

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    With sufficient speed and exit and max 3x100, perhaps $100/hr?
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    It is an interesting place to play, that's for sure. My closest stores!!

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    Nice trip report. You can believe you will hit bad runs no matter how good your system is. My system is about as strong as you can get. I had one trip and for 3 days every time I got monster counts I would get 2 20's and the dealer always seemed to have a 5 or 6 up. Almost every single time the dealer drew out to 21 on me. The losses were bad but not as bad as you might think. I had some winning at small advantage to put a dent in the losses every day. Of course the small advantage bets were more frequent. On day 4 when I actually started winning my 20's against a 5 or 6 in monster counts it felt really weird. I had been having such long odds losses for so long when the expected outcome happened it didn't feel right for a while. I made a bigger dent in the losses before going home when I started crushing the monster counts. It was still a pretty big loss but it was quickly erased with the usual wins. As bad as it felt I count myself lucky it wasn't much worse. Fortunately I wasn't doubling or splitting much at max bet and I made some BJ's. I have had worse losses solely based on the outcome of 4 rounds in the 3 days that had me split to 4 hands on one spot with a couple doubles and double on my other spot at max bet just to have 8 max bets swept off the felt each time when the dealer outdrew all of my hands. Without that 32 max bet loss on those 4 rounds I would have won a lot that trip (twice EV). As it turned out I lost almost as much as I would have won.

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    So T3, your count is not as powerful as you make it sound like! Needs more twisting, I mean tweaking.......
    After over 10000 BS bragging posts, it turns out that T3 doesn't even play BJ! What a damn joke, LOL!
    T3 is no threat to any casino because he spends most of his time bragging on BTF.
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    I can attest that everything zg saw and more is possible at these stores. I wonder, zg, do you think a conscious decision to cut deep was actually made, or do you think it was more dealer preference? I've seen quite a bit of what I considered dealer preference instituted, and because each dealer only works a table for a max of 30 mins this creates an array of challenge and opportunity, sometimes requiring table hopping and the wonging that goes with it as a strategy.

    Also, CP you are going to have to let me know of a plan to party here. In fact, if anyone wants to go have a little low baller throw down you should PM me.

    I would like to have a career start similar in modesty to Barfarkel and maybe even boz. This is my place to either do it or give up. I've had a really bad run since I started that I attribute to karma and nothing more or less. I'm sorry for even talking about myself so much really, but let's just say I'm discouraged with CCing and I'm looking for new inspiration. I think that I can muster real longevity at this level with a modest act and a long grind. Part of me knows my time is up and I should just look for a real job and not fuck with any independent pursuit but it's just not me.... I relent and disappoint my whole outlook coming out into the open and getting shat on with such remarkable regularity but maybe that is the point of life... Ever heard of Nietzsche's eternal recurrence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    I relent and disappoint my whole outlook coming out into the open and getting shat on with such remarkable regularity but maybe that is the point of life... Ever heard of Nietzsche's eternal recurrence?
    Nietzsche died raving insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    I can attest that everything zg saw and more is possible at these stores. I wonder, zg, do you think a conscious decision to cut deep was actually made, or do you think it was more dealer preference? I've seen quite a bit of what I considered dealer preference instituted, and because each dealer only works a table for a max of 30 mins this creates an array of challenge and opportunity, sometimes requiring table hopping and the wonging that goes with it as a strategy.

    Also, CP you are going to have to let me know of a plan to party here. In fact, if anyone wants to go have a little low baller throw down you should PM me.

    I would like to have a career start similar in modesty to Barfarkel and maybe even boz. This is my place to either do it or give up. I've had a really bad run since I started that I attribute to karma and nothing more or less. I'm sorry for even talking about myself so much really, but let's just say I'm discouraged with CCing and I'm looking for new inspiration. I think that I can muster real longevity at this level with a modest act and a long grind. Part of me knows my time is up and I should just look for a real job and not fuck with any independent pursuit but it's just not me.... I relent and disappoint my whole outlook coming out into the open and getting shat on with such remarkable regularity but maybe that is the point of life... Ever heard of Nietzsche's eternal recurrence?
    V-That is a very moving and honest post, I am very impressed by you as a young man.

    I have played stunningly great games, 6d, 4d, 2d, 1d, with rules and pen you would die for, and shuffles that were very simple, and often no heat,,,,but that was years ago. I still have fine, not great opportunitys, but mostly in the GNW, but one less than a hour from home, that I track very well on. But over all you need a regular job and career, and do AP BJ on the side, with a fine game too. CCing without STing is something I don't get very excited about, unless in dd.

    I leave in a couple hours for an over night stay in a casino 2 hours away that allows me to play NO table games, the only reason I am not tresspassed is because I always use a players card and never be a sneak, they apparently appreciate that and showed me some respect. I will be relegated to poker there and my wife will hit the slots, and we will baby-sit 2 of my Grand Children there in the room while my Daughter and her husband have dinner on us at their excellent buffet. Next month me and the wife have 2 nights lined up at a casino nearby with fine BJ I am allowed to play as long as I "behave", this is also true of the GNW casinos that I love so much. (Well I just found out I will be playing BJ in the GNW this Thurs. and Fri.,,the best 6d in the USA and a very good DD, but DD may be to hot for me to play, I am getting excited!) LOL!!

    As to a party, if it was a re-union type party it would be great, we shall see.

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    Working on my maturity at least...

    Curious as to situation at best 6-decker in the world? Rules, pen, volume of other interested parties... I found one recently that was kind of amazing but it quickly disappeared. Can we say up to 5.5 pen???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Nietzsche died raving insane.
    Well if anything that bolsters my point rather than detracts from it.

    I personally think he was one dubious asshole of a philosopher but eternal reccurence seems a hell of an inarguable concept to me unless you got a fair amount of psychotropics on hand...

    Maybe changing our history is easier than we think. Maybe it's quite harder. Psi posts on this, zg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villiam View Post
    Working on my maturity at least...

    Curious as to situation at best 6-decker in the world? Rules, pen, volume of other interested parties... I found one recently that was kind of amazing but it quickly disappeared. Can we say up to 5.5 pen???
    If you are STinging pen is not all that important. I cannot say anything else as you understand.


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