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    While we're "debating" torture, access to basic health care and the veracity of climate change, the rest-of-the-world is simply advancing transformational infrastructure like you would not believe.

    In Switzerland, the world's longest rail tunnel -- straight through the Alps -- is about to open.
    At 57 kilometres, the Gotthard Base Tunnel, which will travel through the Alps between the northern portal of Erstfeld and Bodio in the south, will become the longest rail tunnel in the world once complete, stripping the title from Japan’s 53.85 kilometre Seikan Tunnel.

    Meanwhile, the ancient tunnels between New York City and New Jersey -- dating from 1910 and about 4,400 meters long -- are so old -- and damaged from recent hurricanes -- that they risk forced closure -- and economic catastrophe for America's largest city -- at any time.
    Losing one of the current tunnels would be a commuting nightmare, but getting financial support for Gateway will be be difficult, said Len Resto, New Jersey Association of Railroad Passengers president.

    "The situation gets more dire day by day," Resto said. "You will get delays unacceptable to the riding public and it will become an economic factor. There's only so much that employers will put up with if people can't get to work on time."

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    Comment: "America is great only in the minds of Americans, you've fallen long ago, only you don't seem to have grasped it yet with your cold war "superpower" way of thinking."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Comment: "America is great only in the minds of Americans, you've fallen long ago, only you don't seem to have grasped it yet with your cold war "superpower" way of thinking."
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    Yeah our Drones suck. Those remote helicopters are crap too. Our aircraft carriers are shit. No oil in the country. Our dollars sucks. Area 51 is in mothballs,,,nuttin happin there.
    Silicon Valley is dead. Tesla is garbage. Microsoft is nuttin. Apple is dieing. The list is so long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
    Yeah our Drones suck. Those remote helicopters are crap too. Our aircraft carriers are shit. No oil in the country. Our dollars sucks. Area 51 is in mothballs,,,nuttin happin there. Silicon Valley is dead. Tesla is garbage. Microsoft is nuttin. Apple is dieing. The list is so long...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Comment: "America is great only in the minds of Americans, you've fallen long ago, only you don't seem to have grasped it yet with your cold war "superpower" way of thinking."


    Spoken like a kid jealous of his big brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
    Yeah our Drones suck. Those remote helicopters are crap too. Our aircraft carriers are shit. No oil in the country. Our dollars sucks. Area 51 is in mothballs,,,nuttin happin there.
    Silicon Valley is dead. Tesla is garbage. Microsoft is nuttin. Apple is dieing. The list is so long...

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    Where is Austria on the map? Somewhere in the Specific Ocean I think.
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    The USA is spending it's birthright on constant wars, not infrastructure, research, etc.

    There is no money left for anything else, except maybe Israel, and more war.

    Of course we are through, when they elected Obumba that proved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creeping panther
    There is no money left for anything else, except maybe Israel, and more war.

    Of course we are through, when they elected Obumba that proved it.

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    Less than 1/10 of 1% of the U.S. budget went to Israel in 2012. We spent 6 times more in interest than we did on foreign aid.

    The National Infrastructure is in tatters according to the American Society of Civil Engineers.
    Now the 2013 Report Card grades are in, and America’s cumulative GPA for infrastructure rose slightly to a D+. The grades in 2013 ranged from a high of B- for solid waste to a low of D- for inland waterways and levees. Solid waste, drinking water, wastewater, roads, and bridges all saw incremental improvements, and rail jumped from a C- to a C+. No categories saw a decline in grade this year.

    So there was some slight improvement in 2013, but a D+ is not exactly a grade that inspires confidence. I realize that most of the infrastructure is at the state level, but we could have had infrastructure improvement projects, like the WPA under FDR, during this past several years of recession, which would have put people to work until the economy improved enough to provide jobs. Now the writing on the wall is that the jobs have been exported to third world countries to the point where even in a thriving economy (if the stock market hitting 18,000 is any indicator) the jobs have still not appeared, at least not enough of them to put America back to work in jobs that can support families at the lower end of the ladder above the poverty level. Somehow we have to call jobs back to America, or forget about a future for America. As it stands, the only future is for American corporations, and that is a travesty.


    I was stunned to see where the money is going. In 2013 (this is before Obamacare):
    • 49% of Federal spending went to entitlements (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security)
    • 20% went to federal retirement and disability, unemployment compensation, food and housing assistance, and other income security programs.
    • 18% went to national defense.
    • 6% went to interest.
    That's 93% of the entire budget, which will only increase under Obamacare.

    Now I'm getting depressed. So I'll leave this topic alone for a while. At the rate we're going, no politician will have to worry about cutting back on popular entitlement and income security programs (both together comprising 69% of the budget), not that they don't do great good, but these factors will collapse the economy so that people will beg the politicians to make the necessary cutbacks. Tough times are ahead. Even if we stop all wars, the national defense is a huge outlay just to keep us strong and astride of developing technology. Paul may have been right in his idea to draw back our troops from around the world, and I'm not just talking about the Middle East, where we are all but gone. The only thing I wonder is whether our absence around the world will invite hostile nations to fill the vacuum we leave, and come back to haunt us in the end. But I think that if we ever want to get out of this war mode we're in, we should follow Paul's advice. It's just too easy, being positioned everywhere in the world, to get involved in war after war after war. Too bad his son does not seem to have the same views as Dad; I might vote for him.
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    Lee Wanta had a great idea. He said he was willing to put one of his $27 Trillions he made into a fast train rail network that would create tens of thousands of jobs building it. Poppy, Billary, Dick and Dubya tried to steal a lot of that, which they did, but not all. I must find out what happened to his idea, and if the US government already spent the money that was his... and that he alone had made. Lee Wanta, true American patriot and hero... against tremendous odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Lee Wanta had a great idea. He said he was willing to put one of his $27 Trillions he made into a fast train rail network that would create tens of thousands of jobs building it. Poppy, Billary, Dick and Dubya tried to steal a lot of that, which they did, but not all. I must find out what happened to his idea, and if the US government already spent the money that was his... and that he alone had made. Lee Wanta, true American patriot and hero... against tremendous odds.
    $27 trillion? Speaking of myths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    $27 trillion? Speaking of myths.
    Nope, no Mythmas there. Lee (or Leo) Wanta was Ronald Reagan's trusted confidant and CIA man. RR gave $150M of government money to Wanta who made a profit, paid that back quickly, and then turned his profit into a $27T fortune, which led to the downfall of the old Soviet Union. The Poppy Bush Crime Cabal wanted to get their greed mitts on that fortune. That's why Lee did a long stretch on trumped-up charges of tax evasion. I kid you not. Lee Wanta, true American hero, Man of the People.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Nope, no Mythmas there. Lee (or Leo) Wanta was Ronald Reagan's trusted confidant and CIA man. RR gave $150M of government money to Wanta who made a profit, paid that back quickly, and then turned his profit into a $27T fortune, which led to the downfall of the old Soviet Union. The Poppy Bush Crime Cabal wanted to get their greed mitts on that fortune. That's why Lee did a long stretch on trumped-up charges of tax evasion. I kid you not. Lee Wanta, true American hero, Man of the People.

    http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/...ight=lee+wanta
    Forgive me for being skeptical, but $27,000,000,000,000 does not disappear into thin air. You don't believe in Jesus Christ, but you believe the Lee Wanta story? Truly, you are delusional.


    The Strange Saga of Leo Wanta

    I belong to a mailing list for 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Needless to say I am not very popular there, I am surprised they haven't banned me yet. In any case, they brought this story to my attention, if only because it was so bizarre. Looking into it, not coincidently, came up with the same list of conspiracy theorist paranoid anti-globalists familiar to followers of 9/11 conspiracies, Rense, RBN, the American Free Press, and Karl Schwarz. So I decided to do a piece on it.


    THE WORLD'S BIGGEST-EVER BANKING HEIST

    2.7% OF $27.5 TRILLION CREAMED OFF THE GIGA-FUNDING OPERATION


    The following is summary of receipts identified in handwritten analytical notes performed by the distinguished US Secret Service Treasury agent, Leo Wanta, on some of the transactions involved in the giga-financing operation involving a colossal loan to the Illuminati from 200+ international banks worth $27.5 trillion, to finance the 'Global Security Environment', a.k.a. the New Underworld Order, which is to be enforced by the United States as the enforcement arm for the project. Sufficient funds were raised to bribe every policymaker, intelligence officer, ruler, Prime Minister, President and senior official for the whole of the 21st century. This fund is now worth $60-$70 trillion at a minimum – and with collateral leverage, probably far more.[List extracted from International Currency Review, Volume 30, Numbers 2/3, January 2005]:

    This article is a rather long and incoherently rambling, it evens repeats the same items over and over again, as if they were never mentioned previously, but I will try and summarize it. Supposedly Leo Wanta claims that acting as a Secret Service/Treasury agent he made $27.5 trillion trying to crash the Soviet ruble under Reagan, but that this money (now grown to $60-70$ trillion) was stolen by the Illuminati. He was thrown in to a "Swiss dungeon" then extradicted back to Wisconsin, where he was put under house arrest, and jailed under trumped up tax evasion charges. I think that is what he is saying, it is rather hard to follow.

    Anyway, Wanta, or Ambassador Wanta, he is now claiming to be an ambassador from the non-existent government of Somalia to both Canada and Switzerland, now says that he is trying to return this money, or at least $4.7 trillion of it, to its rightful owners, the US taxpayers. The global elite are of course trying to prevent this, because well... they are really mean. Needless to say this is attracting attention among the paranoid conspiracy theorists and the economic illiterate.

    Even without doing any research, these claims are pretty silly. For starters, the Soviet Ruble, was a nonconvertible currency, with a limited market. Trying to profit off of manipulating it would be a futile exercise. Even George Soros only made $2 billion of off his famous attempt to crash the Bank of England. A considerable amount of money no doubt, but less than 1/100 of 1% of what Wanta is claiming. For comparison, this would also be more than 10 times the entire Soviet GDP at the time.

    So what is the history of this man, how did he come up with this? I was curious, so I looked up some articles in Factiva. A Google search, unfortunately will only come up with the same self-referential conspiracy sites. It turns out, that in fact he does have a history.

    The AP printed an article on April 8, 1998, indicating he was trying to sell pistols to Manuel Noriega:


    (AP) _ A secret memo outlining a plan by Panamanian strongman Manuel Antonio Noriega to acquire thousands of semi-automatic pistols has been leaked to an opposition leader by a rebel member of Panama's military.

    The proposed acquisition of the Browning 9mm pistols is part of a sizable weapons buildup by Panama's Defense Forces that got under way shortly after Panama's crisis began six weeks ago with Noriega's ouster of President Eric Arturo Delvalle.

    The memo was sent to Noriega on April 1 by Leo Wanta, president of AmeriChina Global Management Group Inc., an arms exporting firm based in Appleton, Wis.

    Covert operative, or enterprising businessman? You decide.

    It does not stop here though, apparently he was involved in manipulating the Ruble. Well at least trying to scam people. From Insight Magazine 17 June 1991:


    Enter Leo Wanta: One of the names most frequently cited by those who got caught up in ruble mania is that of Leo Emil Wanta, director general of the New Republic/USA Financial Group. Though few claim to have met him face-to-face, a lot of people heard his story over the telephone. What he told them, they say, is that his business was acquiring rubles on behalf of the U.S. government in order to provide an infusion of hard currency to the Soviet economy.

    It might be too much to say that Wanta single-handedly created the myth that rubles were in demand, but he did more than his share. He has floated dozens of pieces of paper relating the sale or purchase of rubles in amounts of up to 105 billion rubles (worth roughly $6 billion at the black market rate). There is no evidence that any of these deals ever closed, but he has shown a rare gift for getting other folks to trot hither and yon.

    Almost every banker contacted for this story recalls at least one telephone conversation with him. It was on his behalf that officials at Natwest and Volksbank went fishing for a high-profit deal on their own banks' stationery.

    A Midwestern banker encountered Wanta last summer and tells a story that stands for many. "No sooner had we begun talking about the possibility of opening an account than I began to get inquiries from traders here and abroad and in tiny Pacific islands asking whether his company was good for a $10 million spot transaction. I said, `I'm sorry, but we're still checking it out ourselves,' and they'd say, `That's all I wanted to know, click.' "

    New Republic's letterhead features a fashionable address in Vienna, but Wanta's phone rings in Appleton, Wis. In a two-hour conversation, he attributes his start in politics and finance to the kindness of the late Sen. Alexander Wiley, a Wisconsin Republican, who sent him to Dale Carnegie to cure a stuttering problem. He mentions various careers as a high-tech defense engineer, a deputy in the Waukesha County sheriff's office, a Milwaukee policeman, stints in the Nixon and Reagan campaigns, adviser to the Drug Enforcement Administration and as a perennial candidate for various Cabinet and sub-Cabinet posts.

    "My background is in intelligence," Wanta says, while denying that he has posed as an agent of the U.S. government in ruble deals. Instead, he calls himself a "task force member," adding cryptically: "Do your homework. You'll find out we are who we are. We're the good guys."

    The public record is somewhat less than definitive. It shows that Wanta is the owner of a failed vending machine company in Menomonee Falls, Wis., against which a number of legal judgments remain outstanding.

    Marquette University, which he offers as one of his educational credentials, says he once registered for a continuing education course in 1963, only to cancel two days later.

    A letter that appeared to have been signed by an employee of the First Wisconsin Bank of Appleton , dated last summer and addressed to a Swiss bank, attests that Wanta is a corporate client in good standing and has been since the 1960s. The employee, Jill Campbell , denies ever signing such a document. Wanta claims to have recently had $1.4 billion on deposit at National Westminster, but a bank spokesman says no account was ever opened. And so on.

    As for rubles, Wanta claims to have signed trade agreements worth $50 billion with Moscow, covering everything from exporting oil and vodka to rebuilding gas pipelines, to the importation and distribution of food. He was floating offers to buy rubles in order to fulfill these contracts. Profit, or even completing the deal, was not
    the primary objective, however: "All we say is that we are Big Brother monitoring what the hell is going on out there."

    Most bankers have another explanation: "The whole thing stinks from A to Zed," says Frederick Gevers of PaineWebber Inc.'s office in Geneva, Switzerland.

    The story is backed up by other accounts. From the Capital Times on 21 November 1995, in an article titled, rather tellingly, "DELUSIONAL' CON MAN GETS EIGHT-YEAR TERM":


    Leo Wanta, the Appleton man who claimed to be an international businessman with connections to government agencies but was portrayed by prosecutors as an international con artist, will be spending the next few years in Wisconsin prisons.

    Wanta, 55, who was convicted in May of tax evasion, was given an eight-year prison term Monday by Dane County Circuit Judge Michael Torphy, who also ordered a six-year probation to follow.

    For his part, Wanta -- described as delusional by his own attorney -- continued his scam to the end, claiming the court had no jurisdiction over him, that he was a victim of a vicious Department of Revenue and state Justice Department.

    "I know there is a conspiracy and subterfuge here," Wanta said when given a chance to speak.

    At various times he has claimed to be a CIA agent, an ambassador from Somalia, a close friend of former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, and an international businessman.

    It continues later with:

    "Mr. Wanta is in fact a con man, nothing more and nothing less," he said. "He is a con man who cons con men."

    Haag said Wanta was arrested in Switzerland in 1993 for attempting an $81 million bank fraud. Wanta claimed diplomatic immunity in that case, contending he was the Somalian ambassador to Canada. The Swiss deported him to the United States, where he was arrested in New York on the Wisconsin tax fraud charge.

    Wanta is also described in the book, "A Thieve's World," as being involved in an attempted scam involving Russian rubles.

    "He is a world class con man," said Haag. "A snake oil salesman. But he was unable to sell that snake oil to the jury."

    Haag asked for a sentence of 13 years in prison and another 12 on probation.

    Epstein, on the other hand, said Wanta clearly is delusional. He called Haag's allegations "a lot of shadows and smoke and allegations of wrong doing around the world," but pointed out Wanta has never before been convicted of a crime.

    "The portrait that has been painted by Doug Haag is not the real Leo Wanta," said Epstein. "He exists in a different world," Epstein said of his client. "The fact of the matter is he is in a different orbit," Epstein said, adding that Wanta actually believes the stories he tells.

    So once again, the paranoids turn a fake into a conspiracy. A delusional vending machine salesman becomes an international banker for the covert elite.
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    OK, you presented the Government version of Leo Wanta. Now read his own words in his own book. You have the case for the [dubious] prosecution. Now hear the case for the defence, and THEN figure who is telling the truth.

    You can read the book here: http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/...ight=lee+wanta


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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    OK, you presented the Government version of Leo Wanta. Now read his own words in his own book. You have the case for the [dubious] prosecution. Now hear the case for the defence, and THEN figure who is telling the truth.

    You can read the book here: http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/...ight=lee+wanta

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