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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Regardless of what you say, I believe I am being responsible advising people, especially those over 65, to get the flu shot.
    The older the more dangerous. Instead advise them on vitD and probiotics and omega-3s and green smoothies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    The older the more dangerous. Instead advise them on vitD and probiotics and omega-3s and green smoothies.
    Those may be "additional" measures to take. They do not immunize you against the flu, however. But it's always good to keep your system as strong as possible. I'm not sure about probiotics and omega 3's are not for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Those may be "additional" measures to take. They do not immunize you against the flu, however.
    Healthy bodies are ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with MIRACULOUS IMMUNE SYSTEMS that are only compromised by the devil's vax...
    ... am I finally getting my message across, Monsignor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Healthy bodies are ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with MIRACULOUS IMMUNE SYSTEMS that are only compromised by the devil's vax...
    ... am I finally getting my message across, Monsignor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Healthy bodies are ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with MIRACULOUS IMMUNE SYSTEMS that are only compromised by the devil's vax...
    ... am I finally getting my message across, Monsignor?
    Your fairy tale is perfectly clear. Methinks you impute supernatural attributes to the human body that are not substantiated by scientific observation. Also, be careful that substances thou ingests do not compromise what immune system thou hast remaining. Name:  smiley-sick007.gif
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    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
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    Could the Ineffective Flu Shot be Causing More Severe Flu Outbreaks, Including Deaths?

    Source: health Impact news / Jan 5, 2015


    The CDC has already admitted that this year’s influenza strain is not a good match for the current flu vaccine. And yet, as in previous years, the universal message given to the public from the government and mainstream media is to “get the flu shot anyway.”

    But what if the flu shot itself is part of the problem? Is it possible that the financial investment in stockpiling flu vaccines each year creates a conflict of interest in this public health message encouraging everyone to get their flu shots, even when it is not a good match for the strains of flu currently making people sick? Could the flu shot itself be making people sick, and even causing deaths?


    - See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/cou....A13s0A1F.dpuf
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    Norm Wattenberger's ignorance continues to show -- Research shows it not only fails to work, it can actually increase your risk of different strains of the disease it's meant to stop. And the latest developments are bloodcurdling, potentially allowing the viruses to multiply to higher levels than ever...

    Another Epic Fail for Influenza Vaccine


    Here we are in the winter of 2015, and U.S. public health officials admit
    that the historically ineffective influenza vaccine is once again an epic fail.


    Flu Vaccine Effectiveness Measured from 0 to 62 Percent

    In the past three flu seasons, the CDC has claimed the flu vaccine's overall effectiveness clocked in at between 47 and 62 percent3 while some experts have measured it at 0 to 7 percent.

    Other studies suggest that when children get a flu shot every year it can interfere with healthy immune responses and make them more likely to get influenza in certain flu seasons.

    Independent medical literature reviews document that flu shots don't really prevent influenza or complications of influenza7,8 or influenza-like-illness (ILI) associated with other types of viruses that cause about 80 percent of all respiratory or gastrointestinal infections during any given flu season.

    A car in which seatbelts and brakes only worked at best half the time is not a car Americans would choose to buy or drive. Car manufacturers profiting from selling that kind of defective product would be sued in civil court, and rightly so.

    Americans Forced to Get Flu Shots or Suffer Sanctions

    Yet, U.S. public health officials are making flu vaccine policy that gets turned into law.13,14 They are forcing Americans to buy and use a pharmaceutical product that fails to work as advertised time and again and can brain injure people, too.

    But we can't sue drug companies for vaccine failures, brain injuries, and deaths in civil court.

    Many of us are being fired from our jobs or denied an education, childcare and medical care if we refuse to salute smartly and get a flu shot every year or give it to our children.

    Dominant Influenza A Strain NOT in Current Flu Shot

    Every spring, federal health officials select two influenza A virus strains (usually H1N1 and H3N2 subtypes)23 and one or two influenza B virus strains to include in flu vaccines released in the fall.

    This past December, CDC officials held a press conference and informed Americans that they were unaware last spring that one of the influenza A strains selected for the 2014-2015 flu vaccine – the H3N2 subtype – was starting to "drift."

    It turns out that the genetically mutated subtype is the dominant influenza A strain causing sickness this year, but it is not in the flu vaccine.

    Some Experts Warn Flu Shot Does NOT Make Symptoms Less Severe

    Bottom line: if you or your child got a flu shot this year, it does not protect you from the most common influenza A subtype making people sick. And now, some influenza experts are warning that flu shots do not make symptoms less severe if the vaccine fails to prevent influenza infection.

    continue reading: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...a-vaccine.aspx

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    Default "Mandatory chickenpox vaccination increases disease rates, study shows"

    "Mandatory chickenpox vaccination increases disease rates, study shows

    "(NaturalNews) Once again, the completely illogical debacle concerning the world of vaccinations has surfaced.

    "By now, you know they've come under fire by those who are adamant that they do more harm than good. Countless people have developed irreversible health problems and even died shortly after receiving a vaccination, which the medical community chalks up to 'coincidence' or cleverly crafted wording that a patient should have known about.

    "Take, for example, the young Florida girl who made headlines last year when she received the flu vaccine. Marysue Grivna, now 10 years old, experienced paralysis and vision loss within a few short days of receiving the shot. She was ultimately diagnosed with a debilitating brain disease called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM). Today, she's confined to a wheelchair or bed and is almost entirely nonverbal.

    "There's also the disturbing discovery of elderly people who lived at a senior care facility in Georgia. After all received the flu shot in 2014, five of them died the next week.

    "Time and again, stories like this abound. Most recently, however, additional news comes from South Korea, where researchers have demonstrated what people have known in their heart to be true all along: that vaccinations not only are unhealthy but also aren't effective.

    "Surprise, surprise.

    "Reported cases of chickenpox have more than tripled since vaccinations became mandatory in South Korea

    "What spurred the researchers to engage in their studies in the first place was the fact that, despite the amount of people receiving chickenpox vaccinations, the rate of the illness in the nation hasn't diminished. Instead, it's increased. The question then becomes a matter of why something designed to keep an illness at bay is actually boosting its activity, creating the opposite of the desired (and often applauded) effect.

    "For example, the researchers note that, in 2005, varicella (chickenpox) vaccination was mandated in South Korea for infants between the ages of 12 and 15 months. Although there was 97 percent uptake by 2011, no decreases in the illness were found nationwide. The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) has reported an increase of varicella patients; in 2006, there were 22.6 cases per 100,000, while in 2011, that number more than tripled to 71.6 cases per 100,000.(3)

    "To better understand why the vaccine was failing, the research team conducted a case-based study, a case-control study and an immunogenicity and safety study. The latter study involved a total of 126 healthy children who were vaccinated with a single dose of Suduvax, which researchers discovered 'may not be immunogenic enough to be effective in preventing varicella in South Korea.'

    "Chickenpox vaccination 'has not been effective,' say researchers

    "The study, titled 'Varicella and Varicella Vaccination in South Korea,' was published in the journal Clinical and Vaccine Immunology. The study acknowledges that the increase in varicella vaccinations is likely due to the fact that getting them is mandatory; however, the article addresses serious flaws in that cases have surged, not declined in spite of that. The study notes:

    "'Although the increase in reported cases of varicella to KCDC may be due to the fact that mandatory varicella notification began in 2005, no decrease in the number of varicella patients does not harmonize with the fact that the varicella vaccine coverage increased to above 97% in 2011. Although it can be asserted that the annual number of cases of varicella might have been higher with greater morbidity in the prevaccine era, the high vaccine uptake, the lack of upward age shift in the peak incidence, and the high proportion of breakthrough disease, with almost no amelioration in disease presentation among vaccinated patients, strongly suggest that varicella vaccination has not been effective in preventing varicella in South Korea and is in great need of improvement.

    "Once again, their findings reinforce that vaccinations have done more in the way of sparking great debate, illness and death than they are actually controlling, or altogether ridding, certain diseases from the population."

    Article at: http://www.naturalnews.com/048265_ch...uth_Korea.html

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    Chickenpox vax upsets the natural immuno response - children get relatively harmless chickenpox, and then as adults exposure to other children's chickenpox serves as a natural immuno booster and then hardly anyone gets the shingles. But now by suppressing the natural cycle, fewer children getting the pox and fewer adults exposed to the children's pox, far greater numbers of shingles cases.
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    More on vaccine risks ...

    As a result of today's skyrocketing rates of chronic disease and disability among children, including autism, some scientists are questioning the safety of large-scale vaccination programs.

    In spite of serious adverse effects among some particularly vulnerable people—many of whom are children—public health officials and many doctors giving vaccines continue to bury their heads in the sand, refusing to even acknowledge there's a problem.

    The featured documentary, "Shots in the Dark: Silence on Vaccine," takes a hard look at vaccine toxicity and its impact on families.

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    Listen up Normski!



    CDC Whistle-blowers

    Dr David Lewis
    Dr. David Lewis is an internationally recognized research microbiologist whose work in public health and environmental issues as a senior-level Research Microbiologist in EPA’s Office of Research & Development, and member of the Graduate Faculty of the University of Georgia has been reported in numerous news articles and documentaries from Time Magazine and Reader’s Digest to National Geographic. He is the only EPA scientist to publish first-authored articles in Nature, Lancet, and Nature Medicine.

    Dr. David Lewis worked with the EPA and CDC for 30 years plus. He explains in shocking detail why Americans have fallen from one of the healthiest to the sickest society on this planet in a few short generations, our health and that of our children literally sold out from under us for the proverbial 30 pieces of silver …

    Listen as he describes the fall of these agencies from beneficial science to abject cronyism and corruption, knowingly putting the lives of millions of Americans in jeopardy. Listen as he describes policy morphing from good beneficial science to scientific data intentionally altered and falsified, only to the benefit of powerful corporations and government policies.

    Listen as he explains how scientists are made to rat out their colleges (told to wear a hidden mic) for objecting to corrupt government policies or lose their jobs resulting in a mass exodus of highly qualified and valuable scientists and researchers from the stated government agencies.

    Listen in horror as he explains how this government is putting sludge a MILLION times more toxic (FACT) than any polluted water or air in our parks, in our children’s school playground and in your organic garden, knowing full well the ultimate danger this presents to us all! THIS IS A DOCUMENTED FACT!

    YES, Vaccines Known to be highly toxic and harmful via the very research he and his colleagues painstakingly performed, ARE being pushed on an unsuspecting population.

    More: http://anticorruptionsociety.com/cdc-whistle-blowers/




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    Default Flu Vaccine More Deadly Than the Flu

    "An ineffective seasonal vaccine is the least of the flu shots problems. In December 2014, the Department of Justice released its report outlining compensation paid out to vaccine injured victims. Based upon the statistics, the flu vaccine has been shown to be the most dangerous reported. Fifty-nine percent of awarded flu vaccine injuries were for Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

    "Although, a final report of injuries and death from this year’s influenza vaccines won’t be made public until the end of 2015, the 2013-2014 vaccines accounted for over 93,000 adverse reactions, including 8,888 hospitalizations and 1,080 deaths according to the government’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). By the CDC’s own omission, the VAERS database only accounts for approximately 10% of adverse vaccine events. Do the math and the actual number far outweighs reported complications from contracting wild flu viruses."

    Read the full article, "Vaccine McCarthyism. What if the Vaccine Paradigm itself is Deliberately Flawed? Did 2014 Mark the Collapse of the Vaccine Establishment?" at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/vaccine...flawed/5427768

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    We have measles again thanks to our radical POTUS Obumba and his open border policy. How in the hell did we ever turn the POTUS into a fucking King??? Corporate corruption???? Cowards in the House and Senate????

    This is exactly what the founders of the USA feared in having a Presidency.

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    Default Flu Vaccines Are Bad Medicine



    "In the video above, [Dr. Mark Geier] explains that the flu shot causes Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and that the flu shot is not very effective in preventing the flu. He also explains that the CDC does not follow the law for vaccines in requiring long-term safety testing for the influenza vaccine like they do with other vaccines, as it is impossible to test a vaccine that changes every year. So the flu vaccine is basically an experimental vaccine that they want to give out to 300 million people every year. There are also no studies showing the safety of giving the flu vaccine to the same person every single year. However, Dr. Geier points out that the CDC is in the business of distributing flu vaccines, because they represent 300 million doses per year, whereas all the childhood vaccines together only number 20 million [per year].

    "Dr. Geier goes on to explain that flu is 'the wrong thing to vaccinate against' because you have to keep re-vaccinating against it every year, unlike childhood infectious diseases, such as smallpox, that are only vaccinated for once. Dr. Geier points out how ridiculous it is spend billions of dollars on a vaccine that might, at its best, save about 50 lives a year, when there are far more serious problems causing death that are more worthy of that kind of expenditure."

    Read more at: http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/health...ntinue-to-die/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodo View Post
    Flu Vaccines Are Bad Medicine
    Norminski and Monsignor Aslan take note: Flu vax are a sucker bet.
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