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    Ion Saliu aka Parpaluck - Rants about N0rm

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    N0RM@N W@TTENB3RGER AND ABUSE OF LAWS
    By Ion Saliu, Founder of Gambling Science

    I published an article in gambling and blackjack n
    ewsgroups in the year of grace 1999. The article was entitled Gambling Is a Science. That was the point in time when the vicious attacks against yours truly started in earnest.

    N0rman W@ttenb3rger, an author and promoter of blackjack software, books, and online gambling simulation (Casino Vérité at qfit.com), tried hard to silence me on the pretext that events cannot, by definition, be captured in formulae" ! His main gambling theory is materialized in counting software for of blackjack. Meanwhile, my theory disproves BJ card-counting as a cult nowadays — it has no mathematical foundation. That constitutes another conflict of interests between the two of us.

    N0rman W@ttenb3rger started firing at me hostile email messages immediately thereafter. His harassing emails served the purpose of intimidating me. He labelled me “CON MAN”expecting me to get intimidated and withdraw my theory from public view. Later on, the hostile reactions and threats against me followed from a bunch of casino agents and moles.

    I will mention on this page the most notorious hostile acts: John Schroder (MGM Grand Casino chairman), John Patrick (gambling author and on casino payroll), Wizard of Odds (Mike Shackleford, casino consultant). [ This is
    the period late 1990s – early 2000s.

    Formula of Gambling is a name I coined, a formula that I developed from works starting with Pascal and de Moivre. FFG started wildfires in the gambling community! The casino executives and consultants, gambling authors (both of systems and books), lottery software developers, were rattled! Everybody's reaction toward theFundamental Formula of Gambling was complete denigration.

    The formula was against the “rulings” of the infamous gambler's fallacy — which is nothing but a mathematical absurdity!

    My new theories in probability and gambling conflicted with various interests right from the start. For one, the casinos do not want gamblers who can use mathematics to their advantage. The casinos are interested in gamblers who play fast, without thinking much. Some gambling authors do not want theories that raise doubts about their theories.

    N0rman W@ttenb3rger point of anger was also my Fundamental Formula of Gambling. He angrily messaged to me:
    • ”You have shown ZERO proof that your 'formula' has any merit. So what is there to argue against?”
    I replied with solid facts, true facts.
    • ”Ask in university campuses around the world about the validity of my formula. Undeniable mathematics, theory of probability at its best. Also, The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office included my software in their. It will be checked against any new patent applications in related fields, such as lottery, gambling, mathematics, probability theory.”
    And that's when he burst... out of proportions! Even now (2014), persons with interest in gambling mock him for the idiotic statement he made:
    • ”You simply do not understand the meaning of random: If it can be formulized, it is not random.
    My response in this regard has always attracted adverse reaction, hostility from those casino executives and consultants, gambling authors, lottery software developers. I mention that even representatives of the academia disagree with my fundamental principle of randomness.
    • ”What's not random, Norm? The entire Universe is ruled by RANDOMNESS. There is no absolute certainty in the entire Universe. There is a branch of science named theory of probability which studies random events using a plethora of formulae. For example, the FORMULA to get four heads consecutively is p = 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/16. I took a simplest of formulas, for your brain to comprehend
    At that statement I made, N0rman W@ttenb3rger went berserk! He even involved a bunch of gambling authors, all very much into the gambler's fallacy bedlam
    • ”This is a flat out lie. Every, and I mean, every mathematic study of gambling states that this is nonsense. Every one of them will tell you random events cannot, by definition, be captured in formulae. This is, in fact, the definition of random. You are either a con man or an idiot.”

    N0rman W@ttenb3rger couldn't stop sending me hostile messages. I thought I cooled him down by declaring that his behavior was insane and I would possibly take adverse action.

    Ultimately, more often than not, individuals of this type have their own gambling or lottery systems — albeit they publicly fight the validity of such systems! Their main concern is to keep the attention away from Ion Saliu's creations.

    What a curious disease jealousy is when etched on a bloated ego and seeded in a deep complex of inferiority! It is a pathetic mixture of hypocrisy and schizophrenia!


    More at SOURCE: http://saliu.com/gambling-fights.html
    Last edited by zengrifter; November 3rd, 2014 at 01:44 AM. Reason: N0rman W@ttenb3rger + formatting

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    Repeat after me: "Norm is a bona fide expert whereas Saliu is a crackpot."

    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Repeat after me: "Norm is a bona fide expert whereas Saliu is a crackpot."
    N0rm is a bona fide expert? Yeah? But I heard here he might have some serious xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx disorders. But now, Saliu is the crackpot? Make up your mind...

    I been here for some time during which Fr Aslan has been my fine Catholic coach when it comes to the teachings of Jeebus. Jeebs is alleged to have mumbled judge not that ye be judged... or sumthin. Now, I believe you Br Zengrifter to be a sort of closet Christian, and a fan of Br Nathaniel who was once a Rabbi but converted to Christianity. [How nutty was that!]

    In your post above, I note you have transferred your judgements from N0rm to Ion. Jeebus don't like that!... or any judgements...

    Regarding this whole unsavoury mess, I would say that rampant ego-led imbalances were not confined to just one party.
    Last edited by zengrifter; November 3rd, 2014 at 12:33 AM. Reason: xxxxxx expletives deleted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    N0rm is a bona fide expert? Yeah? But I heard here he might have some serious xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx disorders. But now, Saliu is the crackpot? Make up your mind...
    Persecution complex notwithstanding, when it comes to BJ, Saliu is sh*t and Norm is Shinola.
    Last edited by zengrifter; November 3rd, 2014 at 01:45 AM. Reason: typo
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Persecution complex notwithstanding, Saliu is sh*t and Norm is Shinola.
    And Grifter is the only one who can spot the difference immediately...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    persecution complex notwithstanding, when it comes to bj, saliu is sh*t and norm is shinola.
    watt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    All things considered, that de-indexing... what did it achieve? Now, in the fullness of time, this thread maybe needs restoring to its former status... after all, it's 33 pages and 23,500 views. It should at least rank equal with the famous Saliu.com Wattaburger rant on Google. Miss Google may well giggle now.
    Axiomate:

    The monosyllabic “druggy monkey” is your typical sh*tty brain! Only manic depression can explain his weird cowardice. What is he afraid of? Morman, in his paranoid-delusional-narcissistic fervor can complain in pseudo-legal filings no matter what this thread is named, or what names contains herein!

    Why all these stupid acts by Zengrifter?

    1) Change the thread name to show Norman Wattenberger in the title;
    2) The thread gets top-10 ranking in Google on NW searches;
    3) “Druggy Monkey” changes the thread title to N0rm and other stupid characters;
    4) The Grifter deindexes the thread to, weirdly, appease N0rm;
    5) Zencuckoo then removes the thread altogether;
    6) “Druggy Monkey” has a depressive crisis and needs to vent out — reopens the NW thread;
    7) Closes the thread… changes the thread name… deindexes… reindexes… deindexes the NW thread… no end in sight…

    How sick is that?! N0rm has NO legal grounds in any of the numerous stages partially listed above. In fact Zengrifter, the owner of this website, should “pray” that N0rm files another legal complaint. In that case zg should file immediately a counter claim in the nearest U.S. federal court.

    (Still get the Forbidden message! O tempora! O mores!)
    Last edited by zengrifter; January 27th, 2015 at 11:13 PM. Reason: outing removed

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    You two have a common enemy: N0rm Watt A Burger. In this world, allies and enemies change almost daily. But in this case, United We Stand... Uh, no. United We Could Stand. Watt?

    PS I'm glad you like Piss Christ. For some strange reasons, Aslan finds it extremely offensive.
    Last edited by Katz; January 27th, 2015 at 04:52 PM. Reason: Piss Watt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    You two have a common enemy: N0rm Watt A Burger. In this world, allies and enemies change almost daily. But in this case, United We Stand... Uh, no. United We Could Stand. Watt?

    PS I'm glad you like Piss Christ. For some strange reasons, Aslan finds it extremely offensive.
    Thanx for the Piss link, axiomate! I’ll add it to my meditation CD. The CD had OM chanting, the music from Andrei Tarkovsky’s Stalker… and more.

    Have you listened to ‘Chant’ by The Benedictine Monks of Santo Domingo de Silos? One undeniable positive of Christianity is the contribution to the development of music and visual arts.

    Tony King replied: Aslan says the same crap. Those monks got good at it, in between raping altar boys.
    That's Watt Ass-LAN is all about...

    As for United We Stand, I am the Grifter’s Healer. I wholeheartedly recommend to him listening to meditation music. It does enhance one’s spirit and… courage in face of abN0rmal fears!

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    For the sake of its own sanity, this thread should stand up like a man, instead of hiding behind the fingers. The real names should be allowed, in addition to name variations for the effects of sarcasm and joking.

    The name of the thread should be changed to reflect the true facts that led to its creation. One forum administrator banned one member who happens to be the administrator of this very forum: Zengrifter (royalty name for one Marcus Dalton). And thusly, the normal (no pun intended) title of this thread should read:

    Norman Wattenberger Wrongfully Bans Zengrifter from BlackjackTheForum
    Other members of the ZenZone forum weighed in. Their posts should be kept as accurate as their authors meant. Images and links also should be preserved. The thread should be re-indexed for appearance in searches.

    It is evident that this thread does NOT infringe on anybody’s copyright. It abides by the fair use provision of the U.S. copyright law. The thread is critical, even disparaging, but clearly within the bounds of free speech.

    Would the changes I propose benefit this forum? Well, the truth is always beneficial to everybody. Would the traffic increase due to appearance in search engines? Possibly. Not because the norman wattenberger search query is popular, but because there are other popular matters discussed here, gambling especially.

    As I wrote on my NW dedicated Web page, the NW search query registered a boost because of this thread and my legal conflict with Morman ShkiottorBAN. Before this debacle, the NW query had about 5 – 10 impressions per month in Google (probably 0 in other search engines).

    During my legal conflict with Mr. Norman Wattenberger, software developer and forum administrator, his search query jumped to 40 impressions per month (April 2014). Now, January 2015, the query went up to 52 impressions per month. Bravo!

    The said query, however, dropped to position #83 (from #9 previously) in the 4,203 Google searches that referred visitors to SALIU.COM (January 25, 2015).

    It’s the right thing to do: Stand up! Threats by extremists should NOT keep Charlie from exercising freedom of expression.

    Dixi.

    Ion Saliu,
    Founder of Axiomaticism
    “A good man is an axiomatic man; an axiomatic man is a happy man. Be axiomatic!”



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    Come on man, leave the guy alone.

    I think I know why you hate him. You Latinized half-Gypsy Slavs don't have a reputation for being pro-Semitic, if you know what I mean.

    How about this, what if I convert him to Christianity, then will you leave him alone? I know some guys from Opus Dei in NYC. We'll track him down and baptize him, right on the street. We'll do it when it's raining so he doesn't realize what happened. (Shhh.. nobody warn him!)

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    Last edited by Katz; January 27th, 2015 at 09:19 PM. Reason: Watt wood jesus do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parpaluck View Post
    Axiomate:

    The monosyllabic “druggy monkey” is your typical sh*tty brain! Only manic depression can explain his weird cowardice. What is he afraid of? Morman, in his paranoid-delusional-narcissistic fervor can complain in pseudo-legal filings no matter what this thread is named, or what names contains herein!

    Why all these stupid acts by Zengrifter?

    1) Change the thread name to show Norman Wattenberger in the title;
    2) The thread gets top-10 ranking in Google on NW searches;
    3) “Druggy Monkey” changes the thread title to N0rm and other stupid characters;
    4) The Grifter deindexes the thread to, weirdly, appease N0rm;
    5) Zencuckoo then removes the thread altogether;
    6) “Druggy Monkey” has a depressive crisis and needs to vent out — reopens the NW thread;
    7) Closes the thread… changes the thread name… deindexes… reindexes… deindexes the NW thread… no end in sight…

    How sick is that?! N0rm has NO legal grounds in any of the numerous stages partially listed above. In fact Zengrifter, the owner of this website, should “pray” that N0rm files another legal complaint. In that case, zg should file immediately a counter claim in the nearest U.S. federal court.

    ZG has all the favorable odds in the world to take Norm’s shirt off his back… and nail down the cuckoo for good! The drawback? These forums will be closed down for an extended period of time. So, what? The value of this site is very low, despite the participate of one great fellow who goes by the royalty name of Parpaluck. Problem with this p-lace is its designation by the search engines as a hate group. Furthermore, it is full of stupid one-liners, even one-word posts.

    (Still get the Forbidden message! O tempora! O mores!)
    No one tells Grifter Watt to do. He is still simmering over your druggy monkey jibes... as well as your failure to deliver on something that wins at Blackjack, rather than some half-assed crap about streaks. Even tho you have educated the unwashed about the true HA at BJ... which was, Watt was it again... 8%
    Last edited by zengrifter; January 27th, 2015 at 11:14 PM. Reason: Watt TF + outing

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    N0rman Watt A Burger sends messenger with offer to debate sites merger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey View Post
    Come on man, leave the guy alone.

    I think I know why you hate him. You Latinized half-Gypsy Slavs don't have a reputation for being pro-Semitic, if you know what I mean.

    How about this, what if I convert him to Christianity, then will you leave him alone? I know some guys from Opus Dei in NYC. We'll track him down and baptize him, right on the street. We'll do it when it's raining so he doesn't realize what happened. (Shhh.. nobody warn him!)
    I agree (for now) we have kicked that cat enough.
    Besides, the idea of baptizing the N0rm was a bit overwhelming.

    ****Closed*****
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