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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Now there is a ponderous proposition! Define addicted - like my uncle is addicted to golf, for example?
    Compulsive, and not always with an advantage. I myself have trouble staying away from those musical, dinging, bonging, entertaining, little light show devices planted all over the casino and set to rob you of your last dime without compunction with odds that would make a banker blush. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Compulsive, and not always with an advantage. I myself have trouble staying away from those musical, dinging, bonging, entertaining, little light show devices planted all over the casino and set to rob you of your last dime without compunction with odds that would make a banker blush. .
    What would Jesus do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    What would Jesus do?
    IF you owned everything that is, would you gamble? What could you hope to win? You already own it. No, God has no gamble. It's not that he wouldn't enjoy it, but there's nothing he can gamble for since he already owns everything, that is, except our souls, because he gave us our freedom, but everything else, and he already knows everything that's going to happen, which is another reason he can't gamble even if he wants to. What would Jesus do, indeed!
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    The Only Way to Gamble Successfully –

    1) Put mathematics first, second, and third; there is no fourth place.
    2) Gambling is founded on mathematics. There wouldn’t be gambling if a house advantage (HA) had not been calculated by mathematics.
    3) Every gambling event or session is represented mathematically by series of streaks.
    4) Only the streaks reflect mathematics faithfully, as the streaks are calculated by mathematical formulas.
    5) “There are no formulae in gambling because it is random” is a slogan of deception.
    6) The “gambling of fallacy” is the fallacy itself and another slogan of deception. Losses, or wins, for that matter, cannot be and will not be indefinite. Losses, or wins, for that matter, always come in streaks precisely calculated by mathematics.
    7) The streaks do not come at gambler’s will, as there is no absolute certainty in the Universe. But every streak length will come to fruition as declared by mathematics within a reasonable number of trials.

    Dixi.

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    Founder of Randomness Philosophy,
    Founder of Axiomaticism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parpaluck View Post
    7) The streaks do not come at gambler’s will, as there is no absolute certainty in the Universe. But every streak length will come to fruition as declared by mathematics within a reasonable number of trials.
    How would you describe end play in BJ Parpakeister?

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    Was this practice session on a sim a streak or was it luck? A combination of both perhaps? In the early days I would have just been up 2 units plus the half on all the blackjack hands that I would have been dealt. LMAO. There might be something to this after all. Name:  100_0321.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parpaluck View Post
    The Only Way to Gamble Successfully –

    1) Put mathematics first, second, and third; there is no fourth place.
    2) Gambling is founded on mathematics. There wouldn’t be gambling if a house advantage (HA) had not been calculated by mathematics.
    3) Every gambling event or session is represented mathematically by series of streaks.
    4) Only the streaks reflect mathematics faithfully, as the streaks are calculated by mathematical formulas.
    5) “There are no formulae in gambling because it is random” is a slogan of deception.
    6) The “gambling of fallacy” is the fallacy itself and another slogan of deception. Losses, or wins, for that matter, cannot be and will not be indefinite. Losses, or wins, for that matter, always come in streaks precisely calculated by mathematics.
    7) The streaks do not come at gambler’s will, as there is no absolute certainty in the Universe. But every streak length will come to fruition as declared by mathematics within a reasonable number of trials.

    Dixi.

    Ion Saliu,
    Founder of Gambling Mathematics,
    Founder of Randomness Philosophy,
    Founder of Axiomaticism
    Well said. The one caution I have is that "a reasonable number of trials" may be outside the scope of the gambler's bankroll, i.e., over time there will be so many streaks of 5, 10, and 20 predictable in the fact of their occurrence and predictable in the frequency of their occurrence, both over the long run, but totally unpredictable as to when they will begin and when they will end. Therein lies the rub.

    In this I find that the Gambler's Fallacy is true and not fallacious as you propose. If only we had some form of precognition whereby we knew when a streak would begin and when a streak would end. As it is, after ten losses in an even proposition, we do not know at the outset of the eleventh trial whether we have just witnessed a rare ten loss streak or the beginning of an even rarer thirteen loss streak. I have a friend who rejects the Gambler's Fallacy and he has prospered for three and a half years. This year his winning streak seems to be hobbling along with one fairly serious loss last week. I always wish my friend the best, but my gut (and the math) tells me his luck will probably run out in the end.
    PS-- Under item 6, do you mean "Gambler's Fallacy?" I assumed you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Compulsive, and not always with an advantage.
    So... can I be considered addicted if I ALWAYS play with an advantage?
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    The essence of Saliu BJ voodoo logic ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Parpaluck View Post
    1) Put mathematics first, second, and third; there is no fourth place.
    2) Gambling is founded on mathematics. There wouldn’t be gambling if a house advantage (HA) had not been calculated by mathematics.
    3) Every gambling event or session is represented mathematically by series of streaks.
    4) Only the streaks reflect mathematics faithfully, as the streaks are calculated by mathematical formulas.
    5) “There are no formulae in gambling because it is random” is a slogan of deception.
    6) The “gambling of fallacy” is the fallacy itself and another slogan of deception. Losses, or wins, for that matter, cannot be and will not be indefinite. Losses, or wins, for that matter, always come in streaks precisely calculated by mathematics.
    7) The streaks do not come at gambler’s will, as there is no absolute certainty in the Universe. But every streak length will come to fruition as declared by mathematics within a reasonable number of trials.
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    So... can I be considered addicted if I ALWAYS play with an advantage?
    If you always play with an advantage and you only play once a year, how could you be considered addicted?

    If you play a couple of days every week, you may be addicted to gambling, the thrill of which can still be achieved by the most diligent of advantage play practitioners, or maybe you are not. Even if not, you may run the risk of compulsive gambling. You also run the risk of gambling in other venues within the casino environment in which you have no advantage, for example, Baccarat, Roulette, Craps, or my nemesis, slots, and then again, you may not, depending on the make up of your personality and character.

    But back to your question, yes, you CAN be considered an addict if your playing with an advantage masks a compulsion to experience the thrill of gambling. At least, you would have minimized the damage done, if any, by such a compulsion. OTOH, such a compulsion may find its way into other gambles where you have no advantage. To wit, you may be placing yourself in harm's way. You know yourself better than I. (I have an feeling I may have just touched a nerve.) It will be interesting to hear your response, guarded or unguarded matters not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    If you play a couple of days every week, you may be addicted to gambling, the thrill of which can still be achieved by the most diligent of advantage play practitioners ... But back to your question, yes, you CAN [COULD?] be considered an addict
    Yes you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Yes you can.
    --or maybe not.
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    My question to Scobe:

    Frank, I been meaning to ask you this for a while. I hope you respond...1 A fair while ago, I had a big $700 Blackjack bet out and five cards later on my stiff, I busted with 22. But the young, flustered, new dude dealer counted wrong and paid me for 21. I kept mum as did the rest of the table and the game went on. I got no tap from the eye in the sky either. So there I was suddenly with $1400 instead of minus $700.

    I happily put that down to a fortuitous intervention in my favour from the Blackjack Gods, of which there are many. I still carry this attitude toward dealer errors in my favour. (But all hell breaks loose from me if they dare make an error in THEIR favour!) Am I wrong about this? Do you have an opinion? ...2 Casinos call 'hole carding' cheating. As usual, I disagree with them. Do you hole card?

    Frank's reply: The head of the Nevada casino commission (or whatever it is formally called) told me when I was writing the television show "What Would You Do If?" for Travel Channel that if a dealer makes a mistake in favor of the player, the player is under no legal obligation to give the money back if the casino doesn’t catch it right away. The casino, on the other hand, must give the money back if it made a mistake against the player.

    If the dealer accidentally shows his hole card, you have the perfect right to look. Again this came from the head of the Nevada casino commission. Add to that this: It is not illegal to use a controlled throw. Every shooter is trying to have a winning roll. The controlled shooter would then be losing on purpose if he played a random game.

    However, even if something is not illegal, a casino can ban you for any reason whatsoever with the exception of your race, gender, age or disability.

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    So they can't ban me if I am handicapped and roll up to the table in a wheel chair and I have a spastic condition that makes my head fall to the side on the table where I might accidentally glimpse the dealer's hole card at just the right time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    So they can't ban me if I am handicapped and roll up to the table in a wheel chair and I have a spastic condition that makes my head fall to the side on the table where I might accidentally glimpse the dealer's hole card at just the right time?
    Where did you get such a weird, insane idea from, like that? No sane individual would ever stoop so low in his greed to do such a thing... or so I thought. Frankly Br Aslan, I was somewhat convinced you were a devout Christian, but now I have serious concerns for you. In fact, I just said a little prayer for you...
    Last edited by Katz; October 1st, 2014 at 05:51 PM. Reason: Dear Yahweh, please help Aslan, oy vey. Amen

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