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    The controversial ex-Jew Brother Nathanael cuts loose with both barrels ...

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    RT.com's the fabulous Abby Martin weighs in on Israel's indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians with ILLEGAL weapons ...

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    Let's call a spade a spade --

    Israel's Assault on Gaza Obscures Core Issues: Racism, Occupation, Colonization


    Another Israeli assault on Gaza will produce more red herrings. These include an obsessive focus on Israeli suffering, linked to an insistence on equivalence between intensive Israeli air raids on a tiny and highly populated strip of land killing at least 81 Palestinians and wounding 615 thus far, most of them civilians, and inaccurate Palestinian rocket-fire which has reached distant targets but has harmed no Israelis so far. With these red herrings come the utter obliteration of any background or context.

    Background such as that Palestinians have been subjected to nearly five decades of illegal occupation, colonization, subjugation and humiliation. Context such as that two young Palestinians were killed in cold blood by Israeli troops in May, a month before three settlers were kidnapped and killed. Or that Israel launched a massive search-and-destroy campaign against Hamas in the West Bank long before the first rocket barrage was fired from Gaza. Or that Israeli security sources confirmed that even while hundreds of Hamas adherents were being rounded up in these raids, Hamas tried for days to restrain other groups’ rocket fire from Gaza.

    The red herrings are essential, of course, to distract us from what is really going on: the occupation regime and its infernal settlement project are operating on all cylinders while racism and thuggish incitement against Arabs have infected broader and broader segments of Israeli society.

    Despite its potential for getting out of the control of the protagonists, and despite the psychological impact of the rocket attacks on Israelis, this conflict has certain advantages for the Israeli government. Its forces are once again using potent American weapons to shoot human fish in the barrel that is Gaza, an open air 360 sq. km. prison for 1.8 million people. This is taking place under dehumanizing and racist rubric dear to Israeli security specialists of “mowing the grass” – as if the civilians who are falling by the score are no more than inanimate weeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    None of which are core issues. Let's face it, they are all propaganda talking points for HAMAS. Indeed, a spade is a spade, and it's digging HAMAS and all Israel haters a long overdue grave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    None of which are core issues. Let's face it, they are all propaganda talking points for HAMAS.
    Indeed, a spade is a spade, and it's digging HAMAS and all Israel haters a long overdue grave.
    Indeed, while lower intelligencia Israelis eat popcorn and cheer and watch their favorite reality show ...
    "We are here to see Israel destroy Hamas," Eli Chone, a 22-year-old American living in Israel told the reporter. "Honestly. Look at the people around you. They live in this town and must daily deal with being shot at. We sit and look at Israel creating peace."
    "It's great to be here. You can feel the thunder and see the rockets. It is a quest for excitement. Yesterday a rocket landed just below the hill," his friend Aaron Dew said.
    "As a journalist, I was looking for an area from which I could get an overview of the Israeli air strikes on Gaza, in order to better understand what was going on," Sørensen told France 24 after he posted the picture on Friday.
    "This evening, it was really intense and as I’d heard people speak about this hill, I went there. As I came closer, I was surprised to see that lots of cars were parked halfway up the hill. Once at the top, I noticed that there were already some 60 people sitting and standing. It was surprising to see them relaxed on their folding chairs. Some were smoking water pipes, others were snacking on popcorn as if it was an open-air cinema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Indeed, while lower intelligencia Israelis eat popcorn and cheer and watch their favorite reality show ...
    "We are here to see Israel destroy Hamas," Eli Chone, a 22-year-old American living in Israel told the reporter. "Honestly. Look at the people around you. They live in this town and must daily deal with being shot at. We sit and look at Israel creating peace."
    "It's great to be here. You can feel the thunder and see the rockets. It is a quest for excitement. Yesterday a rocket landed just below the hill," his friend Aaron Dew said.
    "As a journalist, I was looking for an area from which I could get an overview of the Israeli air strikes on Gaza, in order to better understand what was going on," Sørensen told France 24 after he posted the picture on Friday.
    "This evening, it was really intense and as I’d heard people speak about this hill, I went there. As I came closer, I was surprised to see that lots of cars were parked halfway up the hill. Once at the top, I noticed that there were already some 60 people sitting and standing. It was surprising to see them relaxed on their folding chairs. Some were smoking water pipes, others were snacking on popcorn as if it was an open-air cinema.

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    One hellova lot better apparently, than watching Israeli Jew TV. Especially, with Bibi getting his plug-ugly mug and views consistently aired, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    One hellova lot better apparently, than watching Israeli Jew TV. Especially, with Bibi getting his plug-ugly mug and views consistently aired, no doubt.
    Watch that Jew-as-adjective language, we don't like that here.
    Leave that stuff for Brother Nathanael. Here we say 'Israeli-TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Watch that Jew-as-adjective language, we don't like that here.
    Leave that stuff for Brother Nathanael. Here we say 'Israeli-TV.
    I believe the actions of Israel against the Palestinians and their complete control of USA and all the associated issues will lead to a new wave, world wide, of virulent anti-semitism. Never thought we would see it, but we very well may, and the cause will be the total fault of Israel and Zionist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    One hellova lot better apparently, than watching Israeli Jew TV. Especially, with Bibi getting his plug-ugly mug and views consistently aired, no doubt.
    I imagine the people watching are safely out of the zone where rockets are being fired and fire is being returned. I would imagine that many in Israel are living in their basements for days now, in constant fear of being hit by missiles, if they happen to be in those areas into which the missiles are being fired. I can think of only one response to missile launchers and that is to take them out one way or the other. It would also be in my mind to completely wipe out the HAMAS cowards who position their missile launchers in hospitals and people's homes, deliberately ramping up the cost of war in terms of innocent lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    I imagine the people watching are safely out of the zone where rockets are being fired and fire is being returned. I would imagine that many in Israel are living in their basements for days now, in constant fear of being hit by missiles, if they happen to be in those areas into which the missiles are being fired. I can think of only one response to missile launchers and that is to take them out one way or the other. It would also be in my mind to completely wipe out the HAMAS cowards who position their missile launchers in hospitals and people's homes, deliberately ramping up the cost of war in terms of innocent lives.
    You have consistently ramped up your support, always on the side of Israel and for their right to exist (on somebody else's land.) You don't seem to get it. What is left of the Palestinian people have virtually nothing left to lose any more. Since the various IDF atrocities since 1947 onward, the world pretty much has not given a damn about the Palestinians. That also pretty much, sums your view up today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Watch that Jew-as-adjective language, we don't like that here.
    Leave that stuff for Brother Nathanael. Here we say 'Israeli-TV.
    You called Nat an ex-Jew. Is that not offensive to ... er, somebody? While I am there, how does a Jew become an ex-Jew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Watch that Jew-as-adjective language, we don't like that here.
    Leave that stuff for Brother Nathanael. Here we say 'Israeli-TV.
    I submit that watching Israeli Jew TV is no more anti-Semitic than Iraqi Jew TV or Syrian Jew TV. In fact, none of those three is remotely anti-Jew IMO...

    I await the Supreme ruling from the IDF Commission for Anti Jew Discrimination League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    I imagine the people watching are safely out of the zone where rockets are being fired and fire is being returned. I would imagine that many in Israel are living in their basements for days now, in constant fear of being hit by missiles, if they happen to be in those areas into which the missiles are being fired. I can think of only one response to missile launchers and that is to take them out one way or the other. It would also be in my mind to completely wipe out the HAMAS cowards who position their missile launchers in hospitals and people's homes, deliberately ramping up the cost of war in terms of innocent lives.
    If you ask me, many of those Hamas pop-rockets are fired by Mossad just to give Israel license to kill everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    If you ask me, many of those Hamas pop-rockets are fired by Mossad just to give Israel license to kill everyone.
    Dr D, that is excruciatingly anti-Semitic. You will be hearing more from the IDF on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    You have consistently ramped up your support, always on the side of Israel and for their right to exist (on somebody else's land.) You don't seem to get it. What is left of the Palestinian people have virtually nothing left to lose any more. Since the various IDF atrocities since 1947 onward, the world pretty much has not given a damn about the Palestinians. That also pretty much, sums your view up today.
    Not at all. First, what determines who owns a piece of land? There was no Palestinian government, so how does it become a country? But besides all those little inconveniences, the land was not the Palestinians, although they lived there, it belonged to the Ottoman Empire. The OE was defeated by the British, thereby making it their land under international law. So to correct your statement, it was Great Britain's land on which the Palestinians lived. The British decided to make a new arrangement for the land they owned, and so they split it in two, giving one piece of their (Great Britain's) land to the Palestinians, and one piece to the Jews. There were some rules about Palestinians being able to continue to live in plaes where they had lived previously, but a lot of that went out the window when the surrounding Arab nations and the Palestinians decided they did not like the deal made by Great Britain and ratified by the United Nations and decided to attack the new country of Israel. Since various levels of hostilities have existed ever since the Arabs including the Palestinians began hostilities against them in 1948, many "rights" of the Palestinians have become null and void, at least, in the parts of the Palestine occupied by Israel, both by grant and by war initiated by the Arabs. There have been atrocities on both sides, but because the Israelis have prevailed, I suppose you think that means that they are the thugs and the losers, the Arabs and the Palestinians, are the "victims." If the Arab nations and the Palestinians had succeeded in 1948 when they were the overwhelming force, then Israel, upon being massacred, would have been the victims, but fortunate delays and circumstances gave Israel the victory instead even though at the beginning the odds were overwhelmingly in the Arabs' favor. Through all these years, the Arab nations have not lifted a finger to help their brother Palestinians refusing refuge to any Palestinians. They did, however, supply weapons to fight the Israelis, whom they hated, and did organize terrorist groups to harass and attack Israel, the PLO and today's HAMAS. Contrary to your statement, I feel sorry for the Palestinians and their victimization mainly by the Arab nations who use them as a pawn in their war against Israel. True to form, in this current war the cowardly HAMAS terrorists have positioned their missile launchers among innocent Palestinians, in schools, hospitals and homes to force Israel to strike innocent women and children if they try to stop the missile attacks against Israeli cities. This shows the Muslim HAMAS terrorists' complete disregard for Palestinian lives. They win if Israel refuses to return fire as they attack Israeli cities and they win if Israel strikes back in self defense because innocent people are sure to be killed giving HAMAS a propaganda victory. Israel has announced their attacks, dropped leaflets, and done everything humanly possible to avoid the deaths of innocents, which I know you don't believe, but which is documented nevertheless. If Israel has at times responded to attacks with disproportionate retaliations, one must always remember that the aggressor has always been the Arab world, not Israel, and what a person does under constant threat of loss of life and limb for many years is unpredictable. I am not trying to justify any particular disproportionate response against the cowardly Muslim/Arab terrorists, but only to lend a context that makes Israel's actions understandable. If Israel is heartless, what do you think you people who want to see Israel exterminated are? What do think of yourselves as you applaud the terrorists reigning down terror on innocent Israeli women and children? What do you think of yourselves who have supported relentless terror and war against a small nation of 6 million Jews for over 60 years? What do think of yourselves for supporting the surrounding of a peaceful nation, Israel, by hostile nations? What do you think the Arab nations who support the extermination of Israel deserve?

    No, I do not hate the Palestinians nor do I fail to understand how the innocent ones among them have been victimized by the hostilities sponsored by their brother Arabs. If there were no HAMAS and other terrorists attacking and harassing Israel, then these innocent Palestinians would be living in peace along side the state of Israel. But no, the Palestinian leadership decided this year to join forces with HAMAS ensuring the continuation of hostilities affecting the Palestinian people. If the Palestinian leadership wanted peace, there would be peace, but they have proven time and time again that they do not want peace, they want an end to Israel, and that is just not going to happen. Both Palestinians and Israelis can live side by side in peace, but only the Palestinian side has decided there can be no peace as long as Israel exists. Palestinians, despite the fact that the place where they once lived has been taken away from them, are clearly in the wrong. There is a win/win solution but they always refuse to accept it. If I were a Palestinian I would fight for Israel, not Palestine. Israel is the victim, not the country of Palestine if you define a country by what its leadership decides. The country of Palestine via its rulers must be subdued so that Israelis and "innocent Palestinians" (those not aligned with the terrorist leadership) can live in peace.

    I am on the side of innocent Palestinians and the country of Israel. I am against HAMAS and the leadership of Palestine and all who follow it who stand for terror and the eradication of Israel. I am against any government in the region that stands for the extermination of Israel, but I am for that part of their innocent populations that do not align themselves with their governments on this issue. I am against you who promote only the cause of the innocent Palestinians and ignore the plight of innocent Israelis and reject the right of Israel to exist. By taking only one side, you are a promoter of war, not peace.
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