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    Is a Silver Supply Shortage on the Horizon?

    Silver, it seems, is everywhere. The precious metal’s dual role as both an investment and industrial metal means that while it can be bought physically or in paper form by investors, it also has myriad technological and medical applications.

    It’s in part because of those many uses that some silver market watchers think at some point — perhaps in the near future — demand for the metal will exceed supply, creating a shortage.

    Andrew Chanin, co-founder of the PureFunds ISE Junior Silver ETF (ARCA:SILJ), is one person who believes that’s what’s in the cards. He told Silver Investing News (SIN) in a recent interview that “we’re entering an era where we’re seeing a tug of war between investment demand and industrial demand. I think what people aren’t even considering as a possibility is a potential supply shortage in silver as a result of this squeeze from demand.”

    Speaking to Mining Weekly at the Toronto-based PDAC convention earlier this month, Chanin expanded on that statement, giving three reasons why he thinks a supply crunch is in store for silver. Those reasons are:

    Mine closures: Several base metals mines, said Chanin, are expected to be depleted in the medium term. While that may not sound like a problem for silver, the fact that the metal is often produced by base metals mines as a by-product means their closure could be an issue.

    Increasing industrial applications: The battery, electronics and automotives industries are just a few places where silver’s industrial applications come into play, according to the Silver Institute. Currently, demand for products from those and other sectors is picking up.

    Growing investment demand: For evidence that investor demand for silver is picking up, one need look no further than the US Mint, which last year sold a record 42,675,000 American Eagle silver bullion coins. Thus far, investors are showing “healthy” interest in acquiring silver coins in 2014 as well.

    Of course, Chanin isn’t the only person predicting an upcoming silver deficit, and those aren’t the only reasons people think that event is in store. In brief, here are a few reasons others have cited:

    Price manipulation: Ted Butler of Butler Research states in a 2013 article that many years ago he discovered that “the price of silver stay[s] low because it [is] manipulated by excessive short selling on the COMEX.” That’s significant, he believes, because “nothing invites a shortage more than a prolonged artificial low price and its affect on the law of supply and demand.”

    read more: http://silverinvestingnews.com/22041...funds-etf.html

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    To me silver seems to have greater upside potential than gold. One thing I like about it is that it would be easier to cash in in smaller quantities, or distribute among family members, if the bottom ever dropped out of our economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    To me silver seems to have greater upside potential than gold. One thing I like about it is that it would be easier to cash in in smaller quantities, or distribute among family members, if the bottom ever dropped out of our economy.
    Silver is the single-deck of precious metals!
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    If Monsignor Aslan is bothered by the cumbersome potability of silver and mostly wants to go gold, he could take some (paper) flyers on the select silver stocks and some silver ETF. It goes against the philosophy a bit, but the silver ETF could go stratospheric, presuming he can cash out when the time comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    If Monsignor Aslan is bothered by the cumbersome potability of silver and mostly wants to go gold, he could take some (paper) flyers on the select silver stocks and some silver ETF. It goes against the philosophy a bit, but the silver ETF could go stratospheric, presuming he can cash out when the time comes.
    Aslan prefers the gold he can feel between his fingers to the paper that represents it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Aslan prefers the gold he can feel between his fingers to the paper that represents it.
    Get more silver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Aslan prefers the gold he can feel between his fingers to the paper that represents it.
    Relax. Your fears are ungrounded. This 100T banknote is for you as a free gift from Ben and Hank down at the Fed. And they said thanks for everything.
    PS Cash it quick, best chance is that pyramid joint in Vegas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Get more silver.
    Why not gold? Seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Why not gold? Seriously.
    I don't think DD is saying "not" gold.
    Good 6D vs good 1D kinda thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    I don't think DD is saying "not" gold.
    Good 6D vs good 1D kinda thing.
    I see. But silver has not always been considered money in all cultures, gold has. There is a much greater supply than with gold. Therefore, I believe that silver is more speculative than gold, although silver may return even higher dividends because of its speculative value. I'd say the higher risk is with silver over gold. No?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    There is a much greater supply than with gold. Therefore, I believe that silver is more speculative than gold
    We need a fact check: will you do the honors?
    I think there is less silver than gold, and a higher industrial demand. Yet historically it was always more valuable in ratio to gold than now.
    I think that a proper 'fundamentals assessment' of silver would show it to be as valuable as gold, way under-priced. Will you look into my hypothesis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    We need a fact check: will you do the honors?
    I think there is less silver than gold, and a higher industrial demand. Yet historically it was always more valuable in ratio to gold than now.
    I think that a proper 'fundamentals assessment' of silver would show it to be as valuable as gold, way under-priced. Will you look into my hypothesis?
    44.55 billion ounces of silver/ 4.25 billion ounces of gold = a 10.5 to 1 ratio (average cumulative world production)

    http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/wo...ver-production
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    44.55 billion ounces of silver/ 4.25 billion ounces of gold = a 10.5 to 1 ratio (average cumulative world production)
    http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/wo...ver-production
    That is cumulative. But even that would support a much higher silver price.
    Now proceed to part-2 of the same report -
    The Silver Deficit (1942-2004)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    That is cumulative. But even that would support a much higher silver price.
    Now proceed to part-2 of the same report -
    The Silver Deficit (1942-2004)
    Not necessarily. It is speculation plus the fact that gold is or has been used by all nations as a form of money. It is more often stored in the form of money (coin, bullion) than silver. So you can't automatically say the ratio can be rationally based on gold's current price. It's still a guess where the real price of gold should be, that is, how much is real and how much is bubble due to speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Not necessarily. It is speculation plus the fact that gold is or has been used by all nations as a form of money.
    Is it not fair to say that silver also has a long history as money, as opposed to say palladium or rhodium?

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