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    The Masoretic/Massoritic Machinators
    The Masoretes/Massorites were amongst those who believed that saying the Name of IEUE is a sin. They superimposed the man-made law of not ever saying the Name—except perhaps on the Day of Atonement (for undue fear of saying it wrongly)—over the eternal-life-giving command to "call" on the Name regularly, with reverence. In some twisted way they thought if they can't change the written law (much), then they could at least change the verbal sound of the Hebrew language—by adding a system of vowel-points.

    They also used square script (Modern Jewish) Hebrew, instead of Paleo Hebrew and Ancient Hebrew. It is likely they knew about the two latter alphabets but chose not to use them. (Paleo Hebrew is different to Ancient Hebrew, and both are different to Modern Jewish Hebrew). This further degraded the value of Ancient Hebrew.


    "AH" in YAHweh from AH-donai

    The Masoretes—many of them Gnostics—superimposed the "Yah" sound from their pagan god "IAO" (YAH-O) onto the first half of IEUE's Name by - conveniently for them - superimposing the the "AH" sound of "Adonai" onto the tetragrammaton using vowel points. "A-do-nay" rhymes with "Yah-o-way" Elohim was another word they tried to substitute for the name IEUE.

    "Bruce M. Metzger writes: …To the four consonants YHWH of the Name, which had come to be regarded as too sacred to be pronounced, they attached the vowel signs indicating that in its place should be read the Hebrew word Adonai meaning ‘Lord’ (or Elohim meaning ‘God’)...

    ...The most decisive argument for the replacement of the Tetragrammaton by the alternative Adonai stems from the double expression Adonai and the Tetragrammaton...(...see for instanceAmos 7:1; 8:1, etc.). In case of these double expressions, the vowels of the Qere are not the vowels of Adonai, but of Elohim, turning the double expression into Adonai Elohim instead of Adonai Adonai. According to some scholars, the Masoretes wanted to avoid the repetition of Adonai after the title Adonai, thus avoid the reading Adonai Adonai. They instead filled out the vowels of the Tetragrammaton with the vowels of the word Elohim, creating the reading Adonai Elohim instead of Adonai Adonai. This accordingly proves that the Tetragrammaton was normally read as Adonai."
    http://www.lectio.unibe.ch/05_2/troyer_names_of_god.htm


    Here is an image that shows how similar the vowel points of the words Adonai and Elohim are to the ones on the tetragrammaton in the Leningrad Hebrew Codex.


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    The Most Accurate Pronunciation Using the Original Hebrew
    The Most Accurate Pronunciation Using the Original Hebrew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    The Masoretic/Massoritic Machinators
    The Masoretes/Massorites were amongst those who believed that saying the Name of IEUE is a sin. They superimposed the man-made law of not ever saying the Name—except perhaps on the Day of Atonement (for undue fear of saying it wrongly)—over the eternal-life-giving command to "call" on the Name regularly, with reverence. In some twisted way they thought if they can't change the written law (much), then they could at least change the verbal sound of the Hebrew language—by adding a system of vowel-points.

    They also used square script (Modern Jewish) Hebrew, instead of Paleo Hebrew and Ancient Hebrew. It is likely they knew about the two latter alphabets but chose not to use them. (Paleo Hebrew is different to Ancient Hebrew, and both are different to Modern Jewish Hebrew). This further degraded the value of Ancient Hebrew.


    "AH" in YAHweh from AH-donai

    The Masoretes—many of them Gnostics—superimposed the "Yah" sound from their pagan god "IAO" (YAH-O) onto the first half of IEUE's Name by - conveniently for them - superimposing the the "AH" sound of "Adonai" onto the tetragrammaton using vowel points. "A-do-nay" rhymes with "Yah-o-way" Elohim was another word they tried to substitute for the name IEUE.

    "Bruce M. Metzger writes: …To the four consonants YHWH of the Name, which had come to be regarded as too sacred to be pronounced, they attached the vowel signs indicating that in its place should be read the Hebrew word Adonai meaning ‘Lord’ (or Elohim meaning ‘God’)...

    ...The most decisive argument for the replacement of the Tetragrammaton by the alternative Adonai stems from the double expression Adonai and the Tetragrammaton...(...see for instanceAmos 7:1; 8:1, etc.). In case of these double expressions, the vowels of the Qere are not the vowels of Adonai, but of Elohim, turning the double expression into Adonai Elohim instead of Adonai Adonai. According to some scholars, the Masoretes wanted to avoid the repetition of Adonai after the title Adonai, thus avoid the reading Adonai Adonai. They instead filled out the vowels of the Tetragrammaton with the vowels of the word Elohim, creating the reading Adonai Elohim instead of Adonai Adonai. This accordingly proves that the Tetragrammaton was normally read as Adonai."
    http://www.lectio.unibe.ch/05_2/troyer_names_of_god.htm


    Here is an image that shows how similar the vowel points of the words Adonai and Elohim are to the ones on the tetragrammaton in the Leningrad Hebrew Codex.


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    The Most Accurate Pronunciation Using the Original Hebrew
    The Most Accurate Pronunciation Using the Original Hebrew

    Yahweh


    Jehovah (q.v.), the traditional form of this name in Western languages, is based on a misunderstanding of the Massoretic vocalization. The name Yahweh, of which an abbreviated form, Yah, and a spelling, Yahw, seem to have been popular, is derived doubtlessly from the verb hayah "to be", and is best translated by "he is". 'El, which is found among all Semitic peoples (Phoen., Arab.: 'El; Assyr.: Il, Ilu; Aram.: 'Alah), is in the Bible, appellative in most cases, but was certainly in the beginning a proper name (so, e.g., in Genesis 31:13; 33:20; 46:3). Its etymology is to the present day a much mooted question: some derive the word from a root 'wl, "to be strong", others from y'l, which might connote the idea of "being the first" others finally from 'lh, by which, at an early stage of the development of the Semitic languages the idea of mere relation (esse ad) was conveyed. According to the first two opinions, the name is intended primarily to express the superiority of the Divine nature, whereas, according to the third, God is 'El because He is the term of the aspirations (finis) of mankind. Closely related to 'El are the names 'Eloh and ' Elohim, sometimes used as appellatives, but more frequently as proper names. The plural form of the latter to some extent still puzzles grammarians and students of the religious belief of the Hebrews. We need not dwell upon the many cases where 'El and ' Elohim are used as appellatives, either by themselves, or as parts compound names such as 'El Roy (the God of the apparition), 'El 'Olam (the Eternal God), 'El 'Elyon (the Most High God), 'Elohe Sabaoth (God of Hosts), etc.
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    Also Yahwhoa

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    Etymology

    Elohim has been explained as a plural form of Eloah or as plural derivative of El. Those who adhere to the former explanation do not agree as to the derivation of Eloah. There is no such verbal stem as alah in Hebrew; but the Arabist Fleischer, Franz Delitzsch, and others appeal to the Arabic aliha, meaning "to be filled with dread", "anxiously to seek refuge", so that ilah (eloah) would mean in the first place "dread", then the object of dread. Genesis 21:42 and 53, where God is called "the fear of Isaac", Isaiah 8:13, and Psalm 75:12, appear to support this view. But the fact that aliha is probably not an independent verbal stem but only a denominative from ilah, signifying originally "possessed of God" (cf. enthousiazein, daimonan) renders the explanation more than precarious. There is no more probability in the contention of Ewald, Dillmann, and others that the verbal stem, alah means "to be mighty": and is to regarded as a by-form of the stem alah; that, therefore, Eloah grows out of alah as El springs from alah. Baethgen (Beitrage, 297) has pointed out that of the fifty-seven occurrences of Eloah forty-one belong to the Book of Job, and the others to late texts or poetic passages. Hence he agrees with Buhl in maintaining that the singular form Eloah came into existence only after the plural form Elohim had been long in common use; in this case, a singular was supplied for its pre-existent plural. But even admitting Elohim to be the prior form, its etymology has not thus far been satisfactorily explained. The ancient Jewish and the early ecclesiastical writers agree with many modern scholars in deriving Elohim from El, but there is a great difference of opinion as to the method of derivation. Nestle (Theol. Stud. aus Würt., 1882, pp. 243 sqq.) supposes that the plural has arisen by the insertion of an artificial h, like the Hebrew amahoth (maidens) from amah. Buhl (Gesenius Hebraisches Handworterbuch, 12th ed., 1895, pp. 41 sq.) considers Elohim as a sort of augmentative form of El; but in spite of their disagreement as to the method of derivation, these writers are one in supposing that in early Hebrew the singular of the word signifying God was El, and its plural form Elohim; and that only more recent times coined the singular form Eloah, thus giving Elohim a grammatically correct correspondent. Lagrange, however, maintains that Elohim and Eloah are derived collaterally and independently from El.
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    Adonai

    Adonai (Hebrew meaning "lord, ruler") is a name bestowed upon God in the Old Testament. It is retained in the Vulgate and its dependent versions, Exodus 6:3; Judith 16:16. No other name applied to God is more definite and more easily understood than this. Etymologically it is the plural of Adon, with the suffix of the possessive pronoun, first person, singular number. This plural has been subjected to various explanations. It may be looked upon as a plurale abstractum, and as such it would indicate the fullness of divine sway and point to God as the Lord of lords. This explanation has the endorsement of Hebrew grammarians, who distinguish a plurale virium, or virtutum. Others prefer to designate this form as plurale excellentiæ, magnitudinis, or plurale majestatis. To look upon it as a form of politeness such as the German Sie for du, or French volts for to is certainly not warranted by Hebrew usage. The possessive pronoun has no more significance in this word than it has in Rabbi (my master), Monsieur, or Madonna. Adonai is also the perpetual substitute for the ineffable Name Yahve [Yaweh], to which it lends its vowel signs. Whenever therefore, the word Yahve [Yaweh] occurs in the text, the Jew will read Adonai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Also Yahwhoa
    Also, Jahvey, Jahweh, Jehovah, JHVH, Wahvey, Yahveh, Yahwe, YHVH, YHWH
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Also, Jahvey, Jahweh, Jehovah, JHVH, Wahvey, Yahveh, Yahwe, YHVH, YHWH
    And JACK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    And JACK.
    Jack of all trades, and Master. period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Adonai

    Adonai (Hebrew meaning "lord, ruler") is a name bestowed upon God in the Old Testament. It is retained in the Vulgate and its dependent versions, Exodus 6:3; Judith 16:16. No other name applied to God is more definite and more easily understood than this. Etymologically it is the plural of Adon, with the suffix of the possessive pronoun, first person, singular number. This plural has been subjected to various explanations. It may be looked upon as a plurale abstractum, and as such it would indicate the fullness of divine sway and point to God as the Lord of lords. This explanation has the endorsement of Hebrew grammarians, who distinguish a plurale virium, or virtutum. Others prefer to designate this form as plurale excellentiæ, magnitudinis, or plurale majestatis. To look upon it as a form of politeness such as the German Sie for du, or French volts for to is certainly not warranted by Hebrew usage. The possessive pronoun has no more significance in this word than it has in Rabbi (my master), Monsieur, or Madonna. Adonai is also the perpetual substitute for the ineffable Name Yahve [Yaweh], to which it lends its vowel signs. Whenever therefore, the word Yahve [Yaweh] occurs in the text, the Jew will read Adonai.
    And only those with extraordinary uncommon sense, who are not brainwashed with dogma and can use their very own god-given gift of reason will see it for exactly what it means: AN ABUNDANCE OF GODS... This is also what Jack was talking about when he said THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME. OY VEY

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    To the Readers of the Zen Zone (other than Katz): You know, it doesn't really take more than a grain of intelligence to understand that those names, Yahweh, Adonai, Jehovah, etc. are just different names for the same God. I am beginning to understand why Katz hates monotheistic religion. The notion of one God is too much for him to handle.

    What he really needs is a god for everything that affects his life. He needs a blackjack god, a sex god, an anti-Zionist god, a conspiracy theory god, a welfare god, a free health care god, a weather god, a parking spot god, a money god, an ET god, a drug god, a sun god, an acne god, a beer god, and so forth. If there are more like him, I have an idea for a new business enterprise.

    .Polytheism, Ltd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    What Katz really needs is a god for everything that affects his life.
    Maybe he's a closet Hindu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Maybe he's a closet Hindu?
    I think Katz believes there is something "out there," but he's not quite sure what it is. He's pretty certain what it is not, but not sure what it is, and, maybe at times, even if it is. Where does that put him-- an agnostic? Yes, Katz is probably an agnostic. He's between something is out there, and nothing is out there. Or he could be a closet atheist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    I think Katz believes there is something "out there," but he's not quite sure what it is. He's pretty certain what it is not, but not sure what it is, and, maybe at times, even if it is. Where does that put him-- an agnostic? Yes, Katz is probably an agnostic. He's between something is out there, and nothing is out there. Or he could be a closet atheist.
    It is my mission from Divine Source Energy to help you see the light, Brother Aslan. On this occasion, your lesson is of the Fish God, IA.

    ancient Sumerians worshipped IA (Ee-Yah)/EA (Ee-Yah) the fish god (aka Enki), who was the god of water, semen, and satanic craftiness.

    Now, in your next enlightenment, please brace yourself as this may come as quite a shock to you... Fish Head Hats indeed.
    Let us now pray to IA and Dagon

    The Catholics wear mitres because they also worship Dagon/IA/YAH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    It is my mission from Divine Source Energy to help you see the light, Brother Aslan. On this occasion, your lesson is of the Fish God, IA.

    ancient Sumerians worshipped IA (Ee-Yah)/EA (Ee-Yah) the fish god (aka Enki), who was the god of water, semen, and satanic craftiness.

    Now, in your next enlightenment, please brace yourself as this may come as quite a shock to you... Fish Head Hats indeed.
    Let us now pray to IA and Dagon

    The Catholics wear mitres because they also worship Dagon/IA/YAH.
    I'm convinced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    To the Readers of the Zen Zone (other than Katz): You know, it doesn't really take more than a grain of intelligence to understand that those names, Yahweh, Adonai, Jehovah, etc. are just different names for the same God.

    Sure, like ALLAH!

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