+ Reply to Thread
Page 8 of 9 FirstFirst ... 3456789 LastLast
Results 106 to 120 of 121

Thread: TARZAN's Count

  1. #106

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post


    Tarzan I like the video you posted and the demonstration of your abilities but your cohort has to work on his shuffling technique. It seems like your buddy is trying to riffle the cards in a manner that it was not intended to be done, he's doing it backwards from how it's normally done and it looks and feels very awkward. Once the deck is handled with both sets of fingers he needs to do a 50-50 split and square up both packets, then he needs to form a sharper "V" when he attempts to riffle both packets together instead of a wider "V" shape like your buddy is doing. If your buddy makes the change he should notice that it's easier and that both packets of cards will riffle together with more fluidity. The way you count down the deck in the video is and has been for months now the way I count down a deck of cards because it is much faster. I was able to shave off 6-7 seconds on a single deck countdown compared to what I was doing.
    Last edited by Blitzkrieg; March 18th, 2015 at 05:13 PM.

  2. #107

    Default Tarzan Count Demo

    Lady Tthree is the dealer, examine her hands ...

    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
    -----------------------------------------
    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

  3. #108

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    There's an important point that Arnold Snyder made in his article about utilization of the information. The additional information from side counts is useless unless it is properly utilized in your calculations of your betting and playing strategies. Something I sought out long ago, right from the beginning was to achieve maximum utilization of information. Where other counts have about 20 points of reference between -10 to +10 I have 330 unique points of reference over that same span. These specific "fingerprints" of deck composition match up against a memorized chart(s) for each hand, providing maximum utilization of the information derived from the DHME style groupings. I seriously question how many people may ever learn it though.
    What Arnold wrote ->
    Some time back, I developed a counting system, which I humbly dubbed "Snyder's Folly," based on a combination of numbers, subtle body postures, and code words, which allowed me to keep perfect track of the exact number of every denomination of card remaining in a single-deck. I practiced with it for awhile, got pretty quick at counting down a deck, then gave a demonstration to Sam Case. He dealt about half a dozen hands to me, which I played out, then he asked me what my count was.

    "It's 5 duckboy 3," I answered.

    "What does that mean to you?" he asked.

    "It means there are seven l0s remaining, one ace, no twos, one 3, two 4s, no 5s, three 6s, no 7s, no 8s and one 9."

    Sam spread out the cards, put them in order, and, as I expected, my count was 100% accurate. "That's incredible," he said. "Do it again."

    We ran through a few more decks with him dealing, and at various points he would ask me for my deck analysis, which always proved accurate. Then the inevitable happened. He dealt himself an ace up and asked me if I wanted to take insurance. Five seconds later, with no response from me, he said, "What's wrong? You can't take this long to decide on the insurance bet."

    "Well," I explained, "I know you've got eleven tens, three aces, four deuces, one 3, four 4s, two 5s, two 6s, two 7s, one 8, and three 9s remaining. I know this because my count is 9 Farley 3 and I'm sitting with my weight on my right cheek. But I can't make my insurance decision till I tally up all these damn numbers and figure out the ten ratio."

    Sam laughed. "Your incredible new counting system sucks, Snyder. If you can't even make an insurance decision, how do you make your other strategy decisions?"

    "Well," I admitted. "I can't use this count for strategy decisions. It's too complicated. I have to play basic strategy when I keep this count." Sam laughed harder. "What the hell good is this counting system? Can't you even devise a set of strategy tables for it?"

    "I could come up with a great set of strategy table for it using Griffin's book," I explained. "But it would take me too long to make my decisions at the tables. And it would also be too much to memorize."

    "Then what good is Snyder's Folly?" Sam asked. "It's a waste of time. You're side counting for no reason. You're not using the count data!"

    "It's good for one thing," I confessed. "Impressing other card counters. You know I'm not in this game for the money, Sam. I just enjoy being a big shot. Wait'll I demonstrate this count to Stanford Wong, or Ken Uston, or Peter Griffin . . . Why, they'll go nuts over it!"

    "Just pray you don't have to make an insurance decision," Sam said. ♠
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
    -----------------------------------------
    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

  4. #109

    Default

    What thefuck!

  5. #110
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default Nerds swing through Trees?

    BTW. Thanks to Bosox. For standing alone against them in a ladies behalf because you know she can't respond. I owe you one.

    Tarzan really? You were this little nerdy fucker in school? Somehow I'd pictured you differently. My how you can talk to a woman who can't respond. But mind you, she has 3 sons aware of your silly assed comments. Good luck with that Nerd boy! None of you guys are going to do a damn thing but shit yourselves if ever confronted. Might be a good idea to shut the fuck up. Better yet? Keep talking.

  6. #111
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default

    I think I've seen all I need to see of Moses opinions.

    Tarzan wrote ^:

    Moses replies:

    I know I've seen all I want to see of your silly ass notions. Really, you give the 9 the same weight as the 6? You go through all those gyrations and you still only slightly better than Hi Opt II? Go finish your book you've been working on for two decades. Maybe Flash will do another cheer.

  7. #112

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    I think I've seen all I need to see of Moses opinions.

    Tarzan wrote ^:

    Moses replies:

    I know I've seen all I want to see of your silly ass notions. Really, you give the 9 the same weight as the 6? You go through all those gyrations and you still only slightly better than Hi Opt II? Go finish your book you've been working on for two decades. Maybe Flash will do another cheer.
    Hey Moses, what other site is this conversation taking place at?

  8. #113
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Hey Moses, what other site is this conversation taking place at?
    This particular converstaion is on Norm's site under "She's Killing Us."

    Tater has made some posts regarding Flash/Marc on Gamblers Forum. That's all that I'm aware of.

  9. #114

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    This particular converstaion is on Norm's site under "She's Killing Us."

    Tater has made some posts regarding Flash/Marc on Gamblers Forum. That's all that I'm aware of.
    Ok thanks. I'll take a look at the thread.

  10. #115
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    506

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post

    Really, you give the 9 the same weight as the 6? You go through all those gyrations and you still only slightly better than Hi Opt II? Go finish your book you've been working on for two decades. Maybe Flash will do another cheer.
    LOL! Exactly what I was thinking. What is the point to put 6 and 9 in the same group and brag about it? It is just convenient so that each group has the same number of ranks, that is all!
    After over 10000 BS bragging posts, it turns out that T3 doesn't even play BJ! What a damn joke, LOL!
    T3 is no threat to any casino because he spends most of his time bragging on BTF.
    T3: Talk The Talk.

  11. #116
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fat_bumblebee View Post
    LOL! Exactly what I was thinking. What is the point to put 6 and 9 in the same group and brag about it? It is just convenient so that each group has the same number of ranks, that is all!
    He claims he can break it down by remember how many 89s, 67s, 45s, 23s, are played. Yeah right. If so, just go 89s, 5-7s, 2-4s. 20 years and could never figure that out? Boy genius. lol

  12. #117
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default

    Bosox writes regarding Silver Fox and various sims:

    I wish Norm, Tarzan, Bigplayer, Don, Stealth, and others would reply on this good topic.


    Moses replies:

    Tarzan could improve his count by tweaking Mr. Strickers original count. Notice he didn't sweat the small stuff.

    Split your 2-7s in to two groups of 2-4s and 5-7s. Now your EORs are an equal match.
    Your mind has free'd up space so you can perform a 10 count for insurance perfection.

  13. #118
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default

    It's not the complex as much as it's the what do you get for it? How much bang for your buck? Overly complex for the amount of theoretical gain, so why not go with Hi-Opt2ASC (which appears to be simpler to perform) and be done with it?

    Tarzan writes:


    So why wouldn't you take your own advice?

    IF this BJ Asst was a hunting dog, I doubt he could find his own food dish. Get ready Bosox, I'm about to throw down a house challenge. Figure I'd give you the right of way to some easy money.
    Last edited by Moses; January 30th, 2019 at 10:05 PM.

  14. #119
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default

    As far as Moses goes, he appears to go a little looney tunes at times, possibly a perfect fit for someplace like ZZ.

    Now Tarzan. Was that nice? After all the glorious things I've said about you. Me thinks, you should worry about keeping the cheese on your own damn cracker. No?


    It has essentially been labeled as a "hate site" though, so there's an issue with being affiliated with them.

    I'm curious Fat Bumblebee or Blitzer. How is this a hate sight? I mean, yes, we give Norm,T3, and their puppets a ton of shit. Who doesn't?

    Worry about the quality of your game and ignore invitations to battle to the death axe fights with people you owe nothing to and have no need to be bothered with.

    Quality games continue to decline. But I'd play you the game I get everyday if you'd give me the chance. Death Axe fights? You're being a little dramatic.
    Have you been swinging through trees with half queers again?

    O look. You got a helpful. You must be SO PROUD.

    I realize you think you, Flash, and T3 can all walk on water. But let's get real. You were all shit-faced and that lake was frozen!
    Last edited by Moses; January 30th, 2019 at 11:42 PM.

  15. #120
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    830

    Default

    ZZ has essentially been labeled as a "hate site" though, so there's an issue with being affiliated with them.

    Tarzan writes

    Midwest Player writes:
    What does this mean? Does some government agency go around and label certain internet sites as hate sites. The zz forum has only a couple of active posters, mostly Moses, but it appears his posts get quite a few views. Anyway, if one would sign up as a member on such a site do you go on some government watch list.

    Hey guys. I'm starting to feel like the Lone Ranger here. I can just imagine the FBI, CIA, and ESPN reading KJ posts about Norm. They must me thinking "whoa, that Norm Whatthefucker is an asshole Batman."

    21 Forme writes to Midwest Player: Are you being a troll, or are you really this clueless or stupid?

    Hmmm. That's a tough one Alex. Let's go with YES for $500.
    Last edited by Moses; February 2nd, 2019 at 03:10 PM.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Breaking Vegas: Card Count King
    By Katz in forum Casino Anecdotes & Trip Reports
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: October 16th, 2013, 01:04 PM
  2. The Clinton Body Count (my 10,000th post)
    By zengrifter in forum ZenZone General Discussion
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: March 1st, 2008, 10:00 PM
  3. 2004 Vote Count off by 9,000,000
    By zengrifter in forum ZenZone General Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: October 2nd, 2006, 01:26 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts