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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post


    Tarzan I like the video you posted and the demonstration of your abilities but your cohort has to work on his shuffling technique. It seems like your buddy is trying to riffle the cards in a manner that it was not intended to be done, he's doing it backwards from how it's normally done and it looks and feels very awkward. Once the deck is handled with both sets of fingers he needs to do a 50-50 split and square up both packets, then he needs to form a sharper "V" when he attempts to riffle both packets together instead of a wider "V" shape like your buddy is doing. If your buddy makes the change he should notice that it's easier and that both packets of cards will riffle together with more fluidity. The way you count down the deck in the video is and has been for months now the way I count down a deck of cards because it is much faster. I was able to shave off 6-7 seconds on a single deck countdown compared to what I was doing.
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    Lady Tthree is the dealer, examine her hands ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    There's an important point that Arnold Snyder made in his article about utilization of the information. The additional information from side counts is useless unless it is properly utilized in your calculations of your betting and playing strategies. Something I sought out long ago, right from the beginning was to achieve maximum utilization of information. Where other counts have about 20 points of reference between -10 to +10 I have 330 unique points of reference over that same span. These specific "fingerprints" of deck composition match up against a memorized chart(s) for each hand, providing maximum utilization of the information derived from the DHME style groupings. I seriously question how many people may ever learn it though.
    What Arnold wrote ->
    Some time back, I developed a counting system, which I humbly dubbed "Snyder's Folly," based on a combination of numbers, subtle body postures, and code words, which allowed me to keep perfect track of the exact number of every denomination of card remaining in a single-deck. I practiced with it for awhile, got pretty quick at counting down a deck, then gave a demonstration to Sam Case. He dealt about half a dozen hands to me, which I played out, then he asked me what my count was.

    "It's 5 duckboy 3," I answered.

    "What does that mean to you?" he asked.

    "It means there are seven l0s remaining, one ace, no twos, one 3, two 4s, no 5s, three 6s, no 7s, no 8s and one 9."

    Sam spread out the cards, put them in order, and, as I expected, my count was 100% accurate. "That's incredible," he said. "Do it again."

    We ran through a few more decks with him dealing, and at various points he would ask me for my deck analysis, which always proved accurate. Then the inevitable happened. He dealt himself an ace up and asked me if I wanted to take insurance. Five seconds later, with no response from me, he said, "What's wrong? You can't take this long to decide on the insurance bet."

    "Well," I explained, "I know you've got eleven tens, three aces, four deuces, one 3, four 4s, two 5s, two 6s, two 7s, one 8, and three 9s remaining. I know this because my count is 9 Farley 3 and I'm sitting with my weight on my right cheek. But I can't make my insurance decision till I tally up all these damn numbers and figure out the ten ratio."

    Sam laughed. "Your incredible new counting system sucks, Snyder. If you can't even make an insurance decision, how do you make your other strategy decisions?"

    "Well," I admitted. "I can't use this count for strategy decisions. It's too complicated. I have to play basic strategy when I keep this count." Sam laughed harder. "What the hell good is this counting system? Can't you even devise a set of strategy tables for it?"

    "I could come up with a great set of strategy table for it using Griffin's book," I explained. "But it would take me too long to make my decisions at the tables. And it would also be too much to memorize."

    "Then what good is Snyder's Folly?" Sam asked. "It's a waste of time. You're side counting for no reason. You're not using the count data!"

    "It's good for one thing," I confessed. "Impressing other card counters. You know I'm not in this game for the money, Sam. I just enjoy being a big shot. Wait'll I demonstrate this count to Stanford Wong, or Ken Uston, or Peter Griffin . . . Why, they'll go nuts over it!"

    "Just pray you don't have to make an insurance decision," Sam said. ♠
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    What thefuck!

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    Default Nerds swing through Trees?

    BTW. Thanks to Bosox. For standing alone against them in a ladies behalf because you know she can't respond. I owe you one.

    Tarzan really? You were this little nerdy fucker in school? Somehow I'd pictured you differently. My how you can talk to a woman who can't respond. But mind you, she has 3 sons aware of your silly assed comments. Good luck with that Nerd boy! None of you guys are going to do a damn thing but shit yourselves if ever confronted. Might be a good idea to shut the fuck up. Better yet? Keep talking.

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    I think I've seen all I need to see of Moses opinions.

    Tarzan wrote ^:

    Moses replies:

    I know I've seen all I want to see of your silly ass notions. Really, you give the 9 the same weight as the 6? You go through all those gyrations and you still only slightly better than Hi Opt II? Go finish your book you've been working on for two decades. Maybe Flash will do another cheer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    I think I've seen all I need to see of Moses opinions.

    Tarzan wrote ^:

    Moses replies:

    I know I've seen all I want to see of your silly ass notions. Really, you give the 9 the same weight as the 6? You go through all those gyrations and you still only slightly better than Hi Opt II? Go finish your book you've been working on for two decades. Maybe Flash will do another cheer.
    Hey Moses, what other site is this conversation taking place at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Hey Moses, what other site is this conversation taking place at?
    This particular converstaion is on Norm's site under "She's Killing Us."

    Tater has made some posts regarding Flash/Marc on Gamblers Forum. That's all that I'm aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    This particular converstaion is on Norm's site under "She's Killing Us."

    Tater has made some posts regarding Flash/Marc on Gamblers Forum. That's all that I'm aware of.
    Ok thanks. I'll take a look at the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post

    Really, you give the 9 the same weight as the 6? You go through all those gyrations and you still only slightly better than Hi Opt II? Go finish your book you've been working on for two decades. Maybe Flash will do another cheer.
    LOL! Exactly what I was thinking. What is the point to put 6 and 9 in the same group and brag about it? It is just convenient so that each group has the same number of ranks, that is all!
    After over 10000 BS bragging posts, it turns out that T3 doesn't even play BJ! What a damn joke, LOL!
    T3 is no threat to any casino because he spends most of his time bragging on BTF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fat_bumblebee View Post
    LOL! Exactly what I was thinking. What is the point to put 6 and 9 in the same group and brag about it? It is just convenient so that each group has the same number of ranks, that is all!
    He claims he can break it down by remember how many 89s, 67s, 45s, 23s, are played. Yeah right. If so, just go 89s, 5-7s, 2-4s. 20 years and could never figure that out? Boy genius. lol

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