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**Tarzan**
** It goes way beyond just 12vs2 though and extends to all hands. How about knowing exactly what deck compositions in which you would double 12vs6? Can you do this with any count that ***only* takes into account density of {T}? No, it's an impossibility. This occurs in what would be considered a relatively neutral count using Hi-Lo and not factoring in (8,9). I should go dig out the actual numbers on this one to show you what I'm talking about. It would give you a better idea of how the method works with this whole idea of comparing a ratio of groupings to a chart and simply studying it until every time you see that hand you can match up any given set of numbers to a relatively exact point on a chart that clearly defines your playing decision. It comes down to performing a set of choreographed and rehearsed moves that you train to perform at speed in real time at the tables. For instance, the count is 0-13-2-7r @2 1/2 and I have A,5vs3. Without even thinking about it or having to break it down I recognize the deficit {6-9} and know to double (Hi-Lo guy hits). It's a no brainer because I have studied the chart, know the effect of deficit {6-9} on this hand and know that I clearly fall into the zone to double with this particular deck composition without even thinking about it much, almost automatically. The Hi-Lo index is to double at TC+4 but guess what... Density of {T} alone means the index is inaccurate a good portion of the time... The index is wrong or at least wrong a good portion of the time. As a matter of fact, using {T} density alone as the sole factor in determining the index for this hand (accurately) is impossible! I should give you some more actual information on it all as I am sure you would be amused and impressed, AutoMonkey. It's not just another counting method that is not unlike any other counting method out there just some hybrid of something else. It's altogether different and looks at things from a different perspective.

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