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    Leo Strauss: "Judaism is a concern with return; it is not a concern with progress. 'Return' can easily be expressed in Biblical Hebrew; 'progress' cannot."

    Albert Einstein summed up this ungodly mindset and Biblical attack on progress when he described watching Jews visiting the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem on February 3, 1923: "Where dull-witted clansmen of our tribe were praying aloud, their faces turned to the wall, their bodies swaying to and fro. A pathetic sight of men with a past but without a future."



    Was Leo Strauss an Idiot?

    Was Leo Strauss an Idiot? by Robert L. Johnson
    Leo Strauss, pictured at left, the founding father of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) based neoconservative movement, is too often talked about and written about as being some sort of intelligent profound philosopher and thinker.

    The reality of it is that Strauss was a man who actually took the myths and lies found in the Hebrew Bible as factual. Only a non-thinker could do that! In his speech and essay Jerusalem and Athens, Strauss writes regarding the fall of man Bible bilge, "Thus the stage was set for the fall of our first parents. The first move came from the serpent, the most cunning of all the beasts of the field. It seduced the woman into disobedience and then the woman seduced the man. The seduction moves from the lowest to the highest." To paraphrase Clarence Darrow, isn’t anyone surprised that a serpent or snake is talking???

    What intelligent person is going to buy into this nonsense??? And personally, I’ve never heard of a snake being classified as a "beast of the field". As is the case in all the Abrahamic "revealed" religions, women do NOT fare too well. As Strauss points out, women in his example are below men and above serpents! Strauss goes on to write, "According to the serpent’s assertion, knowledge of good and evil makes man immune to death, but we cannot know whether the serpent believes this."

    This is the kind of trash and mental excrement that the Bible is full of! Wondering what a talking snake believes! This mind-set is what drives the people in our governments to do such insane things as starting unnecessary wars! When you abandon your God-given reason you’re capable of doing almost anything. And if the population is full of people that take crap like this seriously, the government definitely won’t have a hard time leading them any where they want, into any war they want!

    After Strauss points out that the Bible god doesn’t want intelligent people in his garden who dare to eat of the tree of wisdom, he moves on to the tree of life. He seriously writes and said that after Eve and Adam ate of the tree of wisdom, "As a consequence, there was now the danger that man might eat of the tree of life and live forever." This is worse than Ponce de Leon who found Florida while he was looking for the fountain of youth! What kind of mind takes myths like this seriously? Is it the kind of mind you want deciding what kind of society we’re going to have, what kind of society and world your children and grandchildren are going to live in?

    This is what the neocons and plutocrats are doing. They’re molding society through the strong arm of government to fit the Hebrew Bible based neoconservative vision for society. One of the very funny Biblical absurdities is how long it claims that people lived. For example, it says that Adam lived to be 930 years old! There are many such unreasonable Biblical claims, such as Jared who the Bible says lived for 962 years! The people who are said to have lived for centuries and centuries were before God had realized what a mistake he had made by making us, which then prompted him to kill every man, woman, child, and unborn baby by drowning with the exception of Noah and his family and two of every animal on the planet that he somehow managed to collect and load into the mythical ark.

    (This reminds me of a joke Thomas Paine included in his outstanding book on God, religion and Deism, The Age of Reason: "Do you believe in Noah - ah NO!") The gullible Strauss, father of the neocons and the policy makers who lead us to war in Iraq and the Middle East, doesn’t even question this Biblical boner! In the same essay/speech he writes, "Man’s antediluvian longevity was a relic of his original condition. Man originally lived in the garden of Eden, where he could have eaten of the tree of life and thus have become immortal. The longevity of antediluvian man reflects this lost chance."

    The only way to believe nonsense like this is to throw your God-given reason out the window! To really demonstrate the danger of the Bible and the neocons to liberty and true freedom, all we have to do is read the following quote from Strauss, "God as it were experimented, for the instruction of mankind, with mankind living in freedom from law. This experiment, just as the experiment with men remaining like innocent children, ended in failure.

    Fallen or awake, man needs restraint, must live under law." Whose law, you may wonder. The answer is Israel’s law through the Hebrew Bible. Since Strauss’ students, people such as Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol and many others, are true believers in Strauss and the Hebrew Bible and the neocon nightmare, they truly believe that the Jews are God’s chosen people, "above all people that are upon the face of the earth." (Deuteronomy 7:6). And they truly believe that the Palestinians (AND OTHERS) have no right to their land because the god of the Jews gave it to the Jews, as Strauss himself writes, when "Canaan, whose land came to be the promised land, was cursed because of Ham’s seeing the nakedness of his father Noah. . . only after Abraham’s offspring will have become a great nation will the land of Canaan be given to them forever."

    This is why there will not be peace in the Middle East or in the world, because people are still so taken in by the absurdities in the Bible that they truly believe that God gave all that land, "from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites; the Chitties, Perizites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Gigashites and Yevusites" to the Jews. This means that to fully occupy the land the Jewish god gave to the Jews, Israel’s borders will have to expand to include large parts of Egypt, Syria and Jordan! And of course this means much more war, much more suffering, and much more death.

    If Bible believing voters don’t come to realize that God has nothing to do with the Bible, these wars will take place just as assuredly as Iraq was invaded. It’s up to us to educate sincere people to what the religions and governments are doing to them and their children in the name of the god of the Hebrew Bible.

    SOURCE: http://www.deism.com/strauss.htm
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    The Neocons Are Biblically Grounded
    by Bob Johnson


    The new conservatives, or neocons, are a powerful group in Washington, DC. They are credited in Time [1] as being the driving force, through neocon and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, to suggest to George W. Bush that the US needed to start a war in Iraq. After tens of thousands of dead and horribly wounded Iraqis, over 1,200 dead and many thousands more terribly wounded and mutilated Americans, the American people are still faithfully marching down the road the neocons put them on.


    Where did the neocons’ ideas originate? What is their driving and sustaining force?
    All the leading neocons, from Irving Kristol and his son William Kristol, to Paul Wolfowitz, Abram Shulsky, and Richard Perle, either studied under, or independently studied, the teachings of Leo Strauss. The neocon movement is definitely made up of Straussians and Strauss is often referred to as the father of the neoconservative movement.



    Leo Strauss was a German Jewish scholar who immigrated to the US in 1938. Seeing how the Weimer Republic could not stop the National Socialists, he turned against secular democracy. After arriving in the US, he became a professor at the University of Chicago. It was there that Wolfowitz and Kristol became his students and disciples.



    Believing that progress is bad because it moves beyond early superstitions and myth, such as the Bible, Strauss taught an unnatural reverence for the past--specifically the Jewish past. In a speech entitled, Progress or Return? The Contemporary Crisis in Western Civilization, Strauss said, “Judaism is a concern with return; it is not a concern with progress. ‘Return’ can easily be expressed in biblical Hebrew; ‘progress’ cannot.”


    Strauss thought that most people are incapable of living their lives without a belief in a God who would punish them for disobedience, and reward them for obedience. In order for the people to know what this God demanded of them, Strauss, being a student himself of the Twelfth Century influential Jewish leader Rabbi Maimonides, believed the best bet was to use the Hebrew Bible. In the editor’s introduction to a collection of Strauss’ writings, Jewish Philosophy and the Crisis of Modernity, Kenneth Hart Green writes, “Strauss learned from Maimonides that religion is essential to any healthy political society, and certainly for the moral life of human beings. Over and above this, Maimonides convinced Strauss that Jewish religion, based on the Hebrew Bible, is most essential to ground a ‘genuine’ morality for almost every human being.”


    This cornerstone idea, that the Jewish religion through the Hebrew Bible should be used to control the sheep, is what motivates and holds together the Jewish and Christian neocons. It is the driving force that sparks increasing and unquestioned US support for Israel, no matter what the cost is to the US and the rest of the world.


    The Hebrew Bible is a collection of writings by ancient Jews to promote themselves. It’s filled with absurd stories of rivers turning into blood (Exodus 7:17 &nbsp, unicorns (Isaiah 34:7), talking donkeys (Numbers 22:28 &nbsp, etc. But threaded throughout this Hebrew Bible is a game plan for the Jews like Leo Strauss, the Kristols, Wolfowitz, ad nauseam, to take and keep the high ground in society and in world affairs.



    To start with is Deuteronomy 7:6. This Bible quote has the God of the Hebrew Bible saying the Jews are, “above all people that are upon the face of the earth.” Getting into this mindset is a good place to start for the masses. To serve God’s chosen people is to serve God on earth.



    The neocon/Straussian idea of basing society on the Hebrew Bible is working amazingly well. Of key importance in the Hebrew Bible is Israel’s well-being. In the book of Isaiah 60: 10-12 we read: “And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee. Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.

    For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted." George Bush, the faith-based president, obviously takes this quote as Biblical truth. It was probably in the forefront of his tiny brain when, as the executive director of the 9/11 commission said, he started the war in Iraq for Israel ’s security.



    I don’t believe in Bible prophecy, but this quote from Deuteronomy 11:23 could be a picture painted of Israel and its “special relationship” with the US government as it stands today. It reads, “Then will the LORD drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves.” (Italics added by author)


    Superstitious Christians, such as Pat Robertson, accept the Hebrew Bible as the word of God, just as certainly as Halliburton overcharges US taxpayers. Wanting to please the Judeo-Christian God, Robertson believes the borders of Israel should be extended to borders dating back to 950 BC! He wrote an article about this, the title of which sums up Robertson’s neoconservative outlook on Israel --The Land of Israel: A Gift From God.


    Based on Robertson’s ideas, American youth, and the youth of any country that is foolish enough to be sucked into taking part in these neocon wars, better be prepared for much more sacrifice and dying. The borders of Israel in 950 BC, as Robertson states, “go all the way up north to the Euphrates River which encompasses the better part of modern-day Syria .

    Solomon's empire went up to the Euphrates River. And Tyre and Sidon and Megiddo. And they had the Via Maris which went from Damascus all the way down to Cairo. It went as far as the area down in Gaza." America’s military really has a full agenda ahead of them!



    [1] Romesh Ratnesar, “Bush’s Brainiest Hawk”, Time, 28-29, January 27, 2003 .

    SOURCE: http://www.deism.com/neoconsbible.htm

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