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    Under general discussion
    Signal to noise ratio

    I know I should pull stuff over here, but........I'm smoking a turkey right now.
    And having fun and relaxing
    Gonna exercise my 2nd amendment right tomorrow, a little bit of plinking in the desert

    Mac
    So look buddy it's nothing personal, but either your the unluckiest person in the world or your stealing from me. Either way............ I WANT NO PART OF YOU!!!!!! NEVER!!!!

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    So look buddy it's nothing personal, but either your the unluckiest person in the world or your stealing from me. Either way............ I WANT NO PART OF YOU!!!!!! NEVER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
    Norm has made changes to the anonymize. Now you need 5 posts to use it, 5 days also. Well ain't that special.! More rules, more control, it's kinda like OBama and his crew, more laws, more taxes, cripple the country, cripple your web site.
    Good luck, paranoia?? Who is paranoid about who? Hmmmmmmm
    What good is ANONYMOUS posting if the admin and mods know who you are?
    (and what good are PMs if the admin can read them?)
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    Norm says: Signal to noise ratio - AP life on the road is tough -- one of the reasons that I have never advised anyone to join the life. It can also engender paranoia. Indeed, to some extent, paranoia is of value. To a larger extent, paranoia is damaging to relationships, your image, your effect on others, and ultimately on your own psyche and success. Those that enjoy long-term success, in this and other endeavors, learn how to deal with the day-to-day annoyances of people that are, frankly speaking, in the way.

    Ill-mannered manifestations towards acquaintances or strangers that are the result of inabilities to handle such annoyances internally, merely drive other people away. At times, the needed degree of paranoia can be felt too strongly and drive one to lash out at perceived enemies or simply people they feel are somehow less pure in their AP creds.

    That sounds like some serious personal soul-searching?

    Norm is famous for being unable to handle "annoyances internally" - presumably that is why he has been banned at more AP communities than Stalker and JStat?*

    *Fact check suggested
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    Really? Not norm? Banned? Wow.
    I thought he was just a humble servant to his people. He speakith with a forked tongue?
    All is not as it seems in Norm's World........
    So look buddy it's nothing personal, but either your the unluckiest person in the world or your stealing from me. Either way............ I WANT NO PART OF YOU!!!!!! NEVER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
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    Norm says: Signal to noise ratio - AP life on the road is tough -- one of the reasons that I have never advised anyone to join the life. It can also engender paranoia. Indeed, to some extent, paranoia is of value. To a larger extent, paranoia is damaging to relationships, your image, your effect on others, and ultimately on your own psyche and success. Those that enjoy long-term success, in this and other endeavors, learn how to deal with the day-to-day annoyances of people that are, frankly speaking, in the way.

    Ill-mannered manifestations towards acquaintances or strangers that are the result of inabilities to handle such annoyances internally, merely drive other people away. At times, the needed degree of paranoia can be felt too strongly and drive one to lash out at perceived enemies or simply people they feel are somehow less pure in their AP creds.

    That sounds like some serious personal soul-searching?

    Norm is famous for being unable to handle "annoyances internally" - presumably that is why he has been banned at more AP communities than Stalker and JStat?*

    *Fact check suggested

    By them fancy words he be using, sounds like a bit to much of edumacation to me! Speak simple English and say what ya mean so your minions can understand. I get tired of googling .
    So look buddy it's nothing personal, but either your the unluckiest person in the world or your stealing from me. Either way............ I WANT NO PART OF YOU!!!!!! NEVER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
    By them fancy words he be using, sounds like a bit to much of edumacation to me! Speak simple English and say what ya mean so your minions can understand. I get tired of googling .
    Try Google Translate.

    "Edumacation?" We had to look that one up at the UnWiki --
    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Edumacation

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    the post noise to signal ratio or whatever it was called, was one of his best, imho, a post of real value, finally.
    geesh, i'd like to respond, either here or there. but alas i've imposed a self imposed ban there and i'm to paranoid to respond here because of his penchant for copyrighted material.
    just would say this, subconsciously he may have responded to my query regarding his stance defending his communities due diligence with regard to other community members other than himself.
    best regards,
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    that's my take on it your mileage may vary.
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    Hmmmmmmmmm, I'm sure there are plenty of others that feel as you do sage frog. People are totally clueless as where norm has the line drawn. No one can express their real heartfelt opinions on there for fear of norm dropping the hammer.
    Being an AP is far more than just numbers, It's relationships of like minded individuals. Censorship will kill that site, it's happening now.
    I'm open for a discussion of norms site. Lets hear it. Post anonymously if you must. I can take any heat towards me also.

    Mac
    So look buddy it's nothing personal, but either your the unluckiest person in the world or your stealing from me. Either way............ I WANT NO PART OF YOU!!!!!! NEVER!!!!

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    ok, discussion of Norm's site. i'll start of with i dunno. it's dead to me, i can find nothing much of value.
    that is other than some really top notch people who are on the site and the site can be used for an aid for some number crunching. i mean, what can one say there?, you either give up to much info, or you get censored. so like i say, i dunno.
    best regards,
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    that's my take on it your mileage may vary.
    for senior citizen fuzzy count click link:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
    Hmmmmmmmmm, I'm sure there are plenty of others that feel as you do sage frog. People are totally clueless as where norm has the line drawn. No one can express their real heartfelt opinions on there for fear of norm dropping the hammer.
    Being an AP is far more than just numbers, It's relationships of like minded individuals. Censorship will kill that site, it's happening now.
    I'm open for a discussion of norms site. Lets hear it. Post anonymously if you must. I can take any heat towards me also.

    Mac
    Norm dropped the hammer and banned me from his forum for posting here on the ZenZone. Too bad he's harming Arnold Snyder by stealing the "Blackjack Forum" brand name and confusing Google SEO searches with The Bishop. The ZenZone should step up to plate and create a few gambling boards to compete with the "Humble Servant." We can have meaningful discussions on blackjack, baccarat, poker, and other casino interests here. MAKE IT SO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    The ZenZone should step up to plate and create a few gambling boards to compete with the "Humble Servant." We can have meaningful discussions on blackjack, baccarat, poker, and other casino interests here. MAKE IT SO!
    Of all people, you are inspiring me, JSTAT! ...
    ... Notwithstanding, I would need to slap you down at every turn or the AP section would have zero credibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    Norm dropped the hammer and banned me from his forum for posting here on the ZenZone.
    Nawww. Fugetaboutit!

    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    ...confusing Google SEO searches with The Bishop
    If you provide an example of search result on this I will comment accordingly. zg

    Ps - I am thinking of locking this thread, it took a nasty turn and wasn't intended to be a Norm Bash. Unfortunately when he started increasing the ban with each post on this thread I let things fester. As everyone knows, when prominent members of BJINFO were banned (CP, KJ, Mach, AutoMonk, me, etc.) we openly discussed the matter here without reprisal or escalated ban terms as de facto 'punishment' under veil of false morality and safety concerns.
    Last edited by zengrifter; April 24th, 2013 at 02:39 PM. Reason: Ps added
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    ...confusing Google SEO searches with The Bishop
    Searching 'bishop of blackjack' I see BJINFO and Zzone taking top honors and nothiong on page-1 from BJTF?
    > https://www.google.com/search?q=bishop+of+blackjack
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
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    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Yeah, I said it , pansy!
    Poor poor Normsky!
    So look buddy it's nothing personal, but either your the unluckiest person in the world or your stealing from me. Either way............ I WANT NO PART OF YOU!!!!!! NEVER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Searching 'bishop of blackjack' I see BJINFO and Zzone taking top honors and nothiong on page-1 from BJTF?
    > https://www.google.com/search?q=bishop+of+blackjack
    Those videos of the "bishop of blackjack" ranked high on Google search are mine I should have stated "Blackjack Forum" (<-Google link) as an example of Norm's theft of Arnold's brand in Google search. BJTF took top honors reducing Snyder's Blackjack Forum rank on Google. I think Anthony Curtis of the Huntington Press still owns the rights of the "Blackjack Forum" brand when Snyder sold the magazine to him 10 years ago.
    Last edited by JSTAT; April 24th, 2013 at 03:24 PM.
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