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    The US gummint doesn't call TOR a "hackers network."
    In fact it's the gummint who are the "hackers," in the curious case of TOR anyway.


    NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users

    • Top-secret documents detail repeated efforts to crack Tor
    • US-funded tool relied upon by dissidents and activists
    • Core security of network remains intact but NSA has some success attacking users' computers


    The National Security Agency has made repeated attempts to develop attacks against people using Tor, a popular tool designed to protect online anonymity, despite the fact the software is primarily funded and promoted by the US government itself.


    Top-secret NSA documents, disclosed by whistleblower Edward Snowden, reveal that the agency's current successes against Tor rely on identifying users and then attacking vulnerable software on their computers. One technique developed by the agency targeted the Firefox web browser used with Tor, giving the agency full control over targets' computers, including access to files, all keystrokes and all online activity.


    But the documents suggest that the fundamental security of the Tor service remains intact. One top-secret presentation, titled 'Tor Stinks', states: "We will never be able to de-anonymize all Tor users all the time." It continues: "With manual analysis we can de-anonymize a very small fraction of Tor users," and says the agency has had "no success de-anonymizing a user in response" to a specific request.


    Another top-secret presentation calls Tor "the king of high-secure, low-latency internet anonymity".

    continue reading: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ion?CMP=twt_gu

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post

    I wrote a cute piece at the LV tribune in 2005 that seems relevant --
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    My Point of View

    'Political Paranoia' = Mental Disorder?

    Marcus K. Dalton - Managing Editor
    Las Vegas Tribune |January 7, 2005

    (Editor's note: At press time Mr. Larraz had taken ill and Tribune's Managing Editor fills in for him here. Readers are advised that Mr. Dalton is not to be taken seriously because he is just paranoid.)

    According to recent reports circulating on the Internet, when the 109th Congress convenes in Washington in January, Senator Bill Frist, the first practicing physician elected to the Senate since 1928, plans to file a bill that would define 'political paranoia' as a form of mental disorder.

    Even without such a bill the attitudes and labels being thrown around by the establishment media and shock-jock conservative talk show hosts have created an Orwellian double standard whereby we should support the government because they are spreading 'freedom' while taking our freedom away.

    According to a recent diatribe on PrisonPlanet.com: "...Characterizing political dissent as a form of mental illness is the hallmark of authoritarian government. In China, for instance, forensic psychiatrists label dissent "political lunacy" and in Soviet Russia political dissenters were routinely cosigned to mental hospitals. Nowadays, with modern pharmacology, mental hospitals are no longer required thanks to chemical intervention."
    Norm was right, ZG!

    Scientists Point to ‘Motivated Reasoning’ As Culprit Behind ‘Conspiracist Thinking’


    Don’t worry: I’m sure they’ll have a pill to treat your “motivated reasoning” disorder soon.


    Via Scientific American:

    Like many in the USA, especially perhaps those of us not allowed to go to work right now or with reason to feel anxious about the future, I’m particularly pre-occupied by these issues at the moment, and the various impediments to clear, community-spirited thinking.
    And then researchers serendipitously dropped another relevant study on cognitive bias into the literature. Lewandowsky, Gignac and Oberauer conducted a study of people in the USA. It’s here in PLOS One.
    They discuss a way that science communication processes can sometimes backfire. When the views of people seen as experts converge on an issue, it has a strong influence on other people’s thinking. So generally, a strong scientific consensus can be convincing to many others, too. Climate science is an example where growing consensus among scientists reduced the influence of climate change denial.
    However, in people who are prone to conspiracist thinking, strong consensus around science can have the reverse effect: it can be seen as evidence that they’re all in cahoots. As happens for some people with vaccination, say. Presenting yet more facts or another study could paradoxically confirm their rejection of science.

    continue reading - http://disinfo.com/2013/10/scientist...cist-thinking/


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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post

    Does this sound like a ponzi, Norm?

    http://www.banktech.com/payments-car...coin/240156480
    http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/02/cal...-of-a-bitcoin/
    http://www.coindesk.com/draper-entre...n-in-bitcoins/
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/910858fa-d...de.html#slide0
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/10/tech...aby/index.html


    Judge rules - Bitcoin NOT a Ponzi -

    U.S. District Court Judge Amos L. Mazzant ruled Monday that the virtual currency constituted a real-life form of currency in the case against Trendon T. Shavers, whom the SEC accuses of running a Bitcoin-inspired Ponzi scheme.

    Shavers, the founder and operator of Bitcoin Savings and Trust, raised at least 700,000 Bitcoin in investments, with promises of 7 percent weekly interest in 2011 and 2012, according to the SEC.

    However, according to the SEC, Shaver was running a Ponzi scheme in which he used Bitcoin from his new investors to cover interest payments and withdrawals on outstanding investments, to trade in his own personal account, and to pay off his own personal expenses. At that time, his Bitcoin investments were worth $4.5 million. Today, they're worth more than $60 million.

    more-
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57597505-93/bitcoin-is-a-legitimate-form-of-currency-a-federal-judge-rules/



    The Zionist XXX bankers hate bitcoins because they can't control their issuance. They zapped Lincoln over the Greenback and Garfield and JFK for similar reasons. These central banking scoundrels always sound the alarm when something comes along to threaten their Zionistic imperialism and removes anyone who poses them a serious problem. ZG, make history and be the first site of its kind to only accept crypto-currency for paid memberships.
    Last edited by zengrifter; November 25th, 2013 at 07:08 PM. Reason: removed "offensive use" of word: Jew

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    I just removed a recent post that referred to 'jewboyz' a sort of racist label. I would have removed it sooner, but I was unaware of it until I was told of it by Norm Wattenberger, who complained in his half-coherent complaint-rant-missive below received via email 48-hours ago - bolds for emphasis. I will respond point-by-point in the near future. zg

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    The following message was sent via the ZenZoneForum.com Contact Us form
    by Norman Wattenberger at 5:19PM NOV 22 ( mailto:support@qfit.com ).
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    I believe that I have been extraordinarily patient. But, enough is enough.

    Seven months of horrendous lies against me
    and attempts to destroy the lives of my family.

    Hundreds of posts with outright lies. Now even claiming that I am one of the “JewBoyz” that knew about 9/11 in advance and let it happen.

    I live in Manhattan. I had to smell the death for a full year. My GF ate lunch nearly every day in the basement of the WTC for years. I know people that died on 9/11.

    This racist, bigoted, hate-language must stop immediately.


    What you promote on your site is extremist hate-language designed to create violence and harm innocent people for no reason other than perceived ethnicity.

    There have even been multiple posts stating that there is a war against me, by name, mentioning assault weapons used in massacres. Your publicly admitted attempts to put your site at the top of Google searches for my name pointing to outrageous lies about me are monstrous and illegal harassment, at the least.

    Your suggestion that you would stop if I allowed you to post on my site is clear, felony extortion.

    I filed my first complaint today. I will continue. I cannot allow you to continue your attempts to harm my family. This must stop.
    I demand that you give me your full address and names and addresses of your lawyer, along with those of DDutton, MaXXus KeXXh, and any and all names of those involved with your site, and those that have leveled threats against me.
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    Last edited by zengrifter; November 27th, 2013 at 06:30 AM. Reason: typo correction
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
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    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengarlicky View Post
    The Zionist XXX bankers hate bitcoins because they can't control their issuance. They zapped Lincoln over the Greenback and Garfield and JFK for similar reasons. These central banking scoundrels always sound the alarm when something comes along to threaten their Zionistic imperialism and removes anyone who poses them a serious problem. ZG, make history and be the first site of its kind to only accept crypto-currency for paid memberships.
    I redacted your use of word 'Jew' (XXX).

    Zzone may be highly critical of Israel and so-called 'Zionists', but never Jews per'se.

    See Zzone Guidelines -
    http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/...1015#post11015
    http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/...o-the-Zen-Zone
    http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/...r-And-Fair-Use
    Last edited by zengrifter; November 27th, 2013 at 06:29 AM. Reason: grammar
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
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    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    At 500+ views weekly, someone cares!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    At 500+ views weekly, someone cares!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagefr0g View Post
    the post noise to signal ratio or whatever it was called, was one of his best, imho, a post of real value, finally.
    geesh, i'd like to respond, either here or there. but alas i've imposed a self imposed ban there and i'm to paranoid to respond here because of his penchant for copyrighted material.
    just would say this, subconsciously he may have responded to my query regarding his stance defending his communities due diligence with regard to other community members other than himself.
    So, after you posted this Norm banned you forever, Frogo?

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    Major clarification needed - SageFr0g is NOT BANNED and is welcome to return to BJTF...

    Quote Originally Posted by sagefr0g View Post
    good grief, i'm banned [FROM BJTF] for life but if i wasn't i'd pay three bucks just to get on there and tell Buzzard to keep his contract for his store.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    Fr0g, you got banned for life!? WTF? What on earth was yur heinous sin?
    Quote Originally Posted by sagefr0g View Post
    uhmm, not sure, no way of knowing as i can't log on, lol.
    but, it's ok, don't really want to go back on anyway, excepting maybe i'd give buzzard my two cents on his plan, sorta thing.
    I received an email from Norm. He was careful to clarify that the SageFrog is NOT BANNED.
    What happened, apparently, is that Norm was reading the threads here (imagine that) and saw that Sage had self-excluded himself from further BJTF participation.

    So apparently Norm changed Sage's PW, locked him out ... "by request," says Norm.
    Last edited by zengrifter; December 1st, 2013 at 12:04 AM.
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
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    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Today's email exchange with the big NW:

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    ....Me: Don't forget to delete that slanderous tweet

    ....NW (aproximated response): I have not ever tweeted in my life and I have absolutely no fucking idea what you are referring to.
    ...........................................My CV Twitter account only ever tweets automated thread titles from my BJ vB site.

    ....-------

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    Last edited by zengrifter; December 1st, 2013 at 09:08 PM. Reason: typo
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
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    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    Norm says: "I removed the Bitcoin threads because we had a person on the site that believes in using such instruments for illegal purposes. He claims the purposes are legal, ignoring the fact that other people saying this have been convicted. As he is gone, I won’t delete this thread. However, Bitcoins appear to me to have all the hallmarks of a Ponzi scheme."
    Normisms: "Bitcoin is a ponzi!" "TOR is a hackers' network" "kim Dotcom is a criminal!" "Anti-government is insanity"
    Does this sound like a ponzi, Norm?

    http://www.banktech.com/payments-car...coin/240156480
    http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/02/cal...-of-a-bitcoin/
    http://www.coindesk.com/draper-entre...n-in-bitcoins/
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/910858fa-d...de.html#slide0
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/10/tech...aby/index.html
    This is another thing that NW wants cleared up, that I promised I would: He NEVER said "Bitcoin is a ponzi". What he did say more or less is that Bitcoin looks like ("has the hallmarks of") a ponzi. Everyone is hereby on warning, and this means you DD, do not misquote Herr Professor Norm.
    Last edited by zengrifter; December 2nd, 2013 at 02:37 AM.
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
    -----------------------------------------
    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    This thread is now locked, the first ever thread at Zzone to be closed.

    There is a new semi-related discussion still open (for present) here -
    http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/...te-Now-For-PAY
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
    -----------------------------------------
    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    This thread has been de-indexed, and I decided there was no pressing need to keep it offline.
    KEEP IT POLITE, THIS MEANS YOU (and me)
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
    -----------------------------------------
    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    This thread has been de-indexed, and I decided there was no pressing need to keep it offline.
    KEEP IT POLITE, THIS MEANS YOU (and me)
    Stirring the pot?
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    but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
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