How The Moon Got There: God Did It Blatant Proof of Bad Science By David J. Ste

[aslan]

Thank you for acknowledging my professional expertise Cardinal Az. (I promoted you, with more pay as well.) I get really concerned when I note fellow Zen Zoners clearly promoting whacko ideas, such as Hollow Moons, Hollow Planets, Christianity and stuff... and so some of us ahem, altruistic types kindly take it on ourselves to ferret out the truth, the whole truth and anything but the truth. In this spirit, I followed your highly-intuitive lead and lo and behold, you were right! There is a companion stone!... see it below. And what a surprise with this one! Sometimes even pros like me are shocked! Now to interpret the Companion Stone for you...

See how one of Dr Dutton's Giants (that he loves so much) is sitting on his throne eating a biscuit, with a large dollop of cream on his head, while he's getting ready to play a flute. (Giants love flutes.) Note he has a very long beard which he's hanging on to. (This means the beard is fake and is stuck on.)
Beneath the Chinese scratchings are the three midgets, named in Chinese as Curly, Larry and Mo. But my biggest shock of all was to follow:

The other writing - along with the round object on the crooked table next to the midgets - have conclusively proved to me beyond doubt that DR DUTTON IS CORRECT! This is certainly the only definitive proof I have ever seen in my nine decades of research. Take a look at the round object again. Take a close look... HEY, CLOSER THAN THAT! Even a total amateur like yourself when you gaze at it long enough should be able to recognize what I am now announcing to the Scientific Community: THIS IS SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT NOT ONLY ARE THE MOON, EARTH AND ALL PLANETS HOLLOW, BUT SO IS THE SUN! I took the liberty of naming it: THE DUTTON DISCOVERY.

And this post bears my humblest apology for ever doubting the good Dr D, and may he forgive me.



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Well, I agree with most of what you say, except of course your mention of Christianity as a whacko idea. I can see where it may be whacko to you, but I could never in a million years agree with that assessment.

But enough of that. The real subject matter of your otherwise splendid post was about the hollowness of the moon, earth, the other planets, and now, the sun. I am so excited about this discovery because it lends credence to one of my own theories concerning the structural makeup of the aforementioned spheres.

It all started back in 1996 when I was shopping at my main store, The Dollar Store. I noticed as I wheeled my shopping basket down the aisle where the Spam and Sardines packed in oil were shelved. My eye caught a glimpse of the Birthday and other celebratory balloons that were hanging from the ceiling with red and green strings dangling to the tops of the shelves. Then, just like that, it struck me in a moment of sheer genius, "Helium!"

And now my discovery is being corroborated to some degree by DDutton's brilliant work, and your own talent for deciphering ancient Sumerian tablets. Of course, I am referring to the fact that the moon, earth, planets, and yes, even the stars and our very own sun, are filled with helium! That is what keeps them from falling to the earth!

I can't tell you how excited I am! This may be the greatest discovery of all time. Of course, I'll share any accolades with you and Dr Dutton. Imagine, maybe even a Nobel Prize! You'll have to forgive me... I am just shaking with excitement and joy!

[Katweezel]

Well, I agree with most of what you say, except of course your mention of Christianity as a whacko idea. I can see where it may be whacko to you, but I could never in a million years agree with that assessment.

But enough of that. The real subject matter of your otherwise splendid post was about the hollowness of the moon, earth, the other planets, and now, the sun. I am so excited about this discovery because it lends credence to one of my own theories concerning the structural makeup of the aforementioned spheres.

It all started back in 1996 when I was shopping at my main store, The Dollar Store. I noticed as I wheeled my shopping basket down the aisle where the Spam and Sardines packed in oil were shelved. My eye caught a glimpse of the Birthday and other celebratory balloons that were hanging from the ceiling with red and green strings dangling to the tops of the shelves. Then, just like that, it struck me in a moment of sheer genius, "Helium!"

And now my discovery is being corroborated to some degree by DDutton's brilliant work, and your own talent for deciphering ancient Sumerian tablets. Of course, I am referring to the fact that the moon, earth, planets, and yes, even the stars and our very own sun, are filled with helium! That is what keeps them from falling to the earth!

I can't tell you how excited I am! This may be the greatest discovery of all time. Of course, I'll share any accolades with you and Dr Dutton. Imagine, maybe even a Nobel Prize! You'll have to forgive me... I am just shaking with excitement and joy!

Hey, did I say Christianity was a whacko idea? ... Well, yes, I just looked back a page, and I did say Christianity is a whacko idea. Yes, I believe Christianity is a whacky idea (that's four times I said it) but just to say something good about Christianity, I don't think it's any whackier than Islam, Judaism, Hindu, Mormon or Scientology. There, that being said I can now focus on helium.

So you believe helium is what keeps the Universe together after you spotted some balloons stuck up there in a Walmart store or something. So how can I argue with that logic? I'm impressed. I can say that helium is good because it makes people laugh and religion is bad because it does NOT make people laugh.

Back to Hollow Moons and stuff, at great risk and expense I uncovered this third Sumerian stone and you may have the benefit of my final professional deciphering:
Note the Giant King is now normal size (although he's still wearing a dress) and the three midgets are now two normal-size midgets. This one almost confounded me but after consulting with the Head Honcho of Hollows, I'm pretty sure I have it down pat. See the rocket between the two normal-size midgets? ... that's how they got around while they hollow out moons, planets and suns. The mini-impalas are what they took on board to eat. (Midgets and giants love nothing better than rosemary roast impala).

The odd stick the King has is actually the Sumerian symbol for helium. The parrot hanging from the King's hat is how he speaks with God. The writing on the wall actually reads: HELIUM AND HOLLOW IS GOD.
So there you have it. Your intuitive leaning has been proved true yet again. And Dr Dutton's theory remains intact. Now we can all be happy...

[aslan]

Hey, did I say Christianity was a whacko idea? ... Well, yes, I just looked back a page, and I did say Christianity is a whacko idea. Yes, I believe Christianity is a whacky idea (that's four times I said it) but just to say something good about Christianity, I don't think it's any whackier than Islam, Judaism, Hindu, Mormon or Scientology. There, that being said I can now focus on helium.

So you believe helium is what keeps the Universe together after you spotted some balloons stuck up there in a Walmart store or something. So how can I argue with that logic? I'm impressed. I can say that helium is good because it makes people laugh and religion is bad because it does NOT make people laugh.

Back to Hollow Moons and stuff, at great risk and expense I uncovered this third Sumerian stone and you may have the benefit of my final professional deciphering:
Note the Giant King is now normal size (although he's still wearing a dress) and the three midgets are now two normal-size midgets. This one almost confounded me but after consulting with the Head Honcho of Hollows, I'm pretty sure I have it down pat. See the rocket between the two normal-size midgets? ... that's how they got around while they hollow out moons, planets and suns. The mini-impalas are what they took on board to eat. (Midgets and giants love nothing better than rosemary roast impala).

The odd stick the King has is actually the Sumerian symbol for helium. The parrot hanging from the King's hat is how he speaks with God. The writing on the wall actually reads: HELIUM AND HOLLOW IS GOD.
So there you have it. Your intuitive leaning has been proved true yet again. And Dr Dutton's theory remains intact. Now we can all be happy...

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Well, I am quite impressed with your astuteness. Apparently the Sumerian's idea of God was "He (generic form) who makes us laugh." Not a bad go of it for an ancient civilization. I like the idea of a God who makes us laugh. Laughter is good for the sole, the whale, and all the fishes and animals that fill the earth. It's good for humans, too.

I have studied your new find. Did you notice the wishbone that the normal-sized giant King is holding in his hand? It appears he is offering the normal-sized midgets a tug at the bone. It could be that whoever gets the larger portion of the wishbone gets to enter the hollow and breathe in the divine substance, and thus become filled with laughter. This would support zg's contention that certain substances can help one reach great spiritual heights.

Also, notice the flying machine above the wishbone, how it has a propeller on each side, allowing it to immediately reverse direction without turning around. It may have been such devices/tools that help them fly around in circular orbits inside the planets and stars as they did their hollowing. The rocket, I think, got them to the planet to be hollowed, and once there they used their dual propeller flying machines to begin the hollowing. The word hollow, later became hallow, and referred to the place that was hollowed, or hallowed, and so came to be known as holy. And holy, formerly, holey, is no mistake. The hole that was hollowed out in the planets and stars, made them literally "holey" or "hallowed". It all fits together. Why did I never think of it before? Think of all the expressions we now have:

Holy smokes! (the smoke issuing from the hollow in the earth through volcanic eruptions)

Holy moley! (A mole can dig tunnels and could conceivably tunnel to the hollowed core of the earth)

Holy Cow! (notice that the center of the word "cow" is a "o" or hole)

A hole in one (the very best score you can get in golf, which is a game in which you strike a ball into a "hole in the earth"-- also, notice that there is a "hole" or a "o" in the word "one"-- coincidence? I think not)

Halloween (sounds a lot like "hallowing" which once was a celebration of the completion of a "hollowing" of some planet or star)

holster (or hole-ster, the place where you put a gun which is used to shoot "holes" in things)

Holy guacamole! (something you put on a tacO or a burritO-- ObviOus, isn't it?)

god (notice the "o" or hole in the middle of the word)

Obama (notice the capital "O"-- man who thinks he is God, whereas, the Irish, O'Brian, has an apostrophe (') between the "O" and the rest of the name, indicating Brian of God, not Brian is God)

O Boy! (self explanatory)

O Solo Mio! (another self explanatory one-- just look at all the "o"s)

[aslan]

It is difficult to figure out the three characters. Are they male or female? The King has a beard so I am assuming he is male, although a bearded lady is not out of the question, and may have been considered a godlike attribute in those days. The first normal sized midget seems masculine, except for the hairdo. Also, all three characters are wearing high heels, which is really baffling me. Are they really women, or are they cross-dressers?

On further inspection, the midget on the far left does not appear to have high heels, so maybe he is the male and the other midget is the female. Then, only the men are cross-dressers.

It also appears that the King's chair is connected to a platform which in turn connects to a front piece that rises to a set of handlebars. I really do think the King is sitting on a motor scooter of sorts. I don't see any wheels, which may have been a detail that space did not allow, or it could point to some other kind of propulsion system, like hover craft, or anti-gravity device, or levitation technology. If the scene is on another planet other than earth, it might speak to the lesser gravity, like on our own moon.

[Katweezel]

It is difficult to figure out the three characters. Are they male or female? The King has a beard so I am assuming he is male, although a bearded lady is not out of the question, and may have been considered a godlike attribute in those days. The first normal sized midget seems masculine, except for the hairdo. Also, all three characters are wearing high heels, which is really baffling me. Are they really women, or are they cross-dressers?

On further inspection, the midget on the far left does not appear to have high heels, so maybe he is the male and the other midget is the female. Then, only the men are cross-dressers.

It also appears that the King's chair is connected to a platform which in turn connects to a front piece that rises to a set of handlebars. I really do think the King is sitting on a motor scooter of sorts. I don't see any wheels, which may have been a detail that space did not allow, or it could point to some other kind of propulsion system, like hover craft, or anti-gravity device, or levitation technology. If the scene is on another planet other than earth, it might speak to the lesser gravity, like on our own moon.

While you and I have been scientifically engaged, Prof Zen and Dr Dutton (the two main proponents of the Hollow Earth/Moon theory) have been conspicuous by their absence. My guess is they are both a little underwhelmed by the presentation of our case. I just Googled vast new research and lo and behold, I found food for their thought. I hope they find it palatable and nobody chokes...

[aslan]

At 02:39 UTC on Monday July 21 (10:39pm EDT, Sunday July 20), 1969, Armstrong opened the hatch, and at 02:51 UTC began his descent to the lunar surface. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11


No wonder they didn't see anything! It was summer vacation!

[Katweezel]

Attachment 17164At 02:39 UTC on Monday July 21 (10:39pm EDT, Sunday July 20), 1969, Armstrong opened the hatch, and at 02:51 UTC began his descent to the lunar surface. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11


No wonder they didn't see anything! It was summer vacation!

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Of course they didn't see anything... But that was not because of the moon summer vacation, it was because the moon is hollow and everyone was snookered plain out of sight of course. Detail explained! And that saves the other (two) experts here from getting annoyed and having to explain it to you again.

[Katweezel]

This fourth Sumerian stone tablet has so far proved to be the most difficult for me to decipher. Don't take any notice of the official explanation of dogs and boars; what would they know? I may need to spend a decade or two on this, as it's highly complex. However I can deal with a few complexities quite simply, right away. The four round holes top right are their message that the moon is indeed hollow. (Obviously that long ago there were four moons). This proves the Hollow Moon theory is absolutely correct.

If you look closely you'll note several fish skeleton bones. Fish was God to Sumerians. They worshipped Fish as God. Makes sense doesn't it... when you come to think about it. And yes, that's a dog there, but it's not hunting boar; it's hunting birds and grasshoppers if you look closer.

There are lots of diamond shapes, semi-circles, triangles, squares and circles which conclusively shows the Sumerians were into Geometry. Don't ask me why, but if you ask me to hazard a guess I'd say they were experimenting with early casino games of chance. That will do for now as I don't want to get too technical with this decipher. Thank you.

[aslan]

Of course they didn't see anything... But that was not because of the moon summer vacation, it was because the moon is hollow and everyone was snookered plain out of sight of course. Detail explained! And that saves the other (two) experts here from getting annoyed and having to explain it to you again.

Well, I must say the hollow moon hypothesis is a step in the right direction from the moon is made out of green cheese. But, I think we may need to advance the ball a bit farther still.

[Katweezel]

Well, I must say the hollow moon hypothesis is a step in the right direction from the moon is made out of green cheese. But, I think we may need to advance the ball a bit farther still.

That is almost the most ridiculous and laughable suggestion I've heard from you yet. How on earth could anyone ever believe that? Even my pet rat doesn't for a moment believe the moon is ... made from cheese.

[aslan]

That is almost the most ridiculous and laughable suggestion I've heard from you yet. How on earth could anyone ever believe that? Even my pet rat doesn't for a moment believe the moon is ... made from cheese.

Smart rat.

[Katweezel]

It occurred to me that black hole theory might explain a) how the moon got there, and b) how the moon came to be hollow. Does that make sense? No? Me neither... But look at the pic below. Does it promote similar ideas in you? If not, I may have to request scientific assistance from Profs Zen and Shred for guidance.

[Katweezel]

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Imagine Home | Ask an Astrophysicist | Moon Origin Theories The Question (Submitted June 26, 1997) I am a first year science teacher and I having been looking for the latest theories on the origin of the moon. Can you provide me with some new information? The Answer We are X-ray and gamma-ray astronomers in our group...not really active in the "solar system" fields of studies. Please keep that in mind. What we know (from tests on lunar samples brought back by the Apollo astronauts) is that the Moon is about 4.6 billion years old. It formed at about the same time as the rest of the solar system did. There are 3 possibilities for its creation: 1. it formed near the Earth as a separate body 2. it formed as part of the Earth and separated from it 3. it formed somewhere else and was captured by the Earth Given that we know the rough ages of the Earth and Moon are the same, we can conclude the following: if it formed as part of Earth and separated, it must have done so right at the beginning of the solar system. Also, the Moon has a different chemical composition that the Earth...which some scientists believe points to it having formed as a separate body, either near or far. Last I heard, the 3 theories all had their strengths and weaknesses...but none were definitive. The latest theory we have heard given serious consideration of is that a Mars-sized asteroid knocked a lot of the surface off the just-formed Earth. A long string of rocky fragments would be blown out from the Earth like a tail. All of the iron falls back onto the Earth and settles in the core. Part of the rocky tail accretes to make the Moon. That may be why the Moon doesn't have an iron core and is somewhat short on certain other elements when compared to Earth. There is also a Scientific American article by G. Jeffrey Taylor in the July 1994 issue (pp 40-47). The article clearly states that the giant impact theory is the current favorite; if there is a bias, I think it's only a matter of degree (it may be less overwhelming a favorite than this article makes it out to be). The reasons why giant impact theory has become such a favorite is listed on p43 of this article --- for one, such a collision is a natural consequence of planet formation. For another, "it simply explains too many observations", including the similar oxygen isotope ratios between the Moon and the Earth, and the angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system. The capture theory has difficulty with the former, while the fission theory cannot explain the angular momentum. You might also try contacting the folks at the Lunar and Planetary Institute to see if they have strong opinions (and why!) about any particular theory. The LPI web site will be found by any Search Engine. Regards, Laura Whitlock and Koji Mukai for the Ask an Astrophysicist Team Questions on this topic are no longer responded to by the "Ask an Astrophysicist" service. See http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...stronomer.html for help on other astronomy Q&A services. Satellites and Data If words seem to be missing from the articles, please read this. Imagine the Universe! is a service of the High Energy Astrophysics Science Archive Research Center (HEASARC), Dr. Alan Smale (Director), within the Astrophysics Science Division (ASD) at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. The Imagine Team Acting Project Leader: Dr. Barbara Mattson Project Leader (on leave): Dr. Jim Lochner Curator: Meredith Gibb Responsible NASA Official: Phil Newman All material on this site has been created and updated between 1997-2012. Last Updated: Thursday, 01-Dec-2005 13:58:39 EST Useful plugins Privacy Policy and Important Notices Do you have a question, problem or comment about this web site? Please let us know. External links contain material that we found to be relevant. However they're not maintained by us and the content may have changed. If you find any external links that contain inappropriate material, please let us know!

[Katweezel]

Well I'll be... No mention of the moon being hollow.

[shred]

Don't they know it's made of swiss cheese.

Have you heard the two moon theory. It is believed we had two moons and one was destroyed in a collision between the two if I remember right. It is too fuzzy a memory to give many details. That probably means I was pretty skeptical about it. I am not good at posting links, it is kind of hit or miss, but if I find it I will try to give enough info to lead others to it if I fail to successfully post a link.