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    Is God real, or is he imaginary? Is God real, or is he imaginary? It is one of the most important questions you can ask yourself.
    If God is real and if God inspired the Bible, then we should worship God as the Bible demands. We should certainly post the Ten Commandments in our courthouses and shopping centers, put "In God We Trust" on the money and pray in our schools. We should focus our society on God and his infallible Word because our everlasting souls hang in the balance.



    On the other hand, if God is imaginary, then religion is a complete illusion. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are pointless. Belief in God is nothing but a silly superstition, and this superstition leads a significant portion of the population to be delusional.
    But how can we decide, conclusively, whether God is real or imaginary?



    Since we are intelligent human beings living in the 21st century, we should take the time to look at some data. That is what we are doing when we ask, "Why won't God heal amputees?"
    If you are an intelligent human being, and if you want to understand the true nature of God, you owe it to yourself to ask, "Why won't God heal amputees?" Start your exploration here:

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    If you amputate the lower rib of a human it will grow back. It is the only bone that will regenerate when removed. What was it that God used from Adam to make Eve. I guess the atheists believe in tremendous coincidence or that the ancient people had advanced medical understanding of bone removal from the many surgeries they did. Oh yeah, I forgot they were just sand something or others according to the bigots. I guess these types need to divorce themselves from reality to believe their hate filled views of intolerance.

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    The good brother Katweeseal knows God, but he persists in the pretense of unbeliever, to teach a point, I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shred View Post
    If you amputate the lower rib of a human it will grow back. It is the only bone that will regenerate when removed. What was it that God used from Adam to make Eve. I guess the atheists believe in tremendous coincidence or that the ancient people had advanced medical understanding of bone removal from the many surgeries they did. Oh yeah, I forgot they were just sand something or others according to the bigots. I guess these types need to divorce themselves from reality to believe their hate filled views of intolerance.
    You neatly dodged the point. The Bible says that if you pray your prayers will be answered by the Christian God. I think even Jesus says so. So if prayers are offered for an amputee's limb to grow back, why does God never deliver? Forget about ribs. The topic is amputees. Don't play any more Dodgeball, OK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post
    The good brother Katweeseal knows God, but he persists in the pretense of unbeliever, to teach a point, I suspect.
    Thank you Dr Dutton. Jesus loves you. Jesus has always loved you and Jesus will always love you. You just need to remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    The Bible says that if you pray your prayers will be answered by the Christian God.
    O'grasshopper, if you ask and receive not an answer, is that not the answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    O'grasshopper, if you ask and receive not an answer, is that not the answer?
    No is not the answer sought. The amputee has been suggested into black magic by some Christian dogooders that Jesus and God have promised that if you pray - ask and you shall receive - and the mountain will be moved and the grain of mustard will be eaten or something. So off they go praying like crazy to the Christian god for new arms or legs or another testicle, and nothing happens. So how the hell is that an answer? God doesn't deliver on his clear promise and he doesn't even say sorry. What kind of a god is that? Give me Jupiter, Zeus, Thor or Apollo any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    No is not the answer sought. The amputee has been suggested into black magic by some Christian dogooders that Jesus and God have promised that if you pray - ask and you shall receive - and the mountain will be moved and the grain of mustard will be eaten or something. So off they go praying like crazy to the Christian god for new arms or legs or another testicle, and nothing happens. So how the hell is that an answer? God doesn't deliver on his clear promise and he doesn't even say sorry. What kind of a god is that? Give me Jupiter, Zeus, Thor or Apollo any day.
    It DOES work, but only if you REALLY REALLY believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    You neatly dodged the point. The Bible says that if you pray your prayers will be answered by the Christian God. I think even Jesus says so. So if prayers are offered for an amputee's limb to grow back, why does God never deliver? Forget about ribs. The topic is amputees. Don't play any more Dodgeball, OK?
    You want a simple answer, but a simple answer cannot be given. You think the condition of mankind is a simple matter, but it is not.

    Suffering and death entered into the world through the sins of men and angels. One might say, "Isn't that a severe penalty for some simple sin?"

    Mankind was created for perfect communion with God, their Creator. With perfect communion with God there is no suffering or death. However, the slightest separation from God ushers in suffering and death. It is not just that God is a just God or a God Who punishes evildoers, it is the very nature of things. Perfect communion gives perfect bliss. The slightest separation gives suffering and death. It's a law, it is cause and effect, it is no different than any of the many observable laws of the universe. It would be easy if all we had to do was re-commune with God, only that is not the way it works. Once separated, always separated, unless... unless perfect justice can be satisfied. That is why we need a redeemer; that is why the universe needs a redeemer. We can't do it, because we are forever tainted. But thanks to God a way was made for all to be restored. The way was by the perfect sacrifice of His Son, Jesus, dying on the cross so that we could be restored to our former communion with God. God substituted Himself to take on the penalty for our sins where we were unable to do so on our own.

    So why doesn't God heal the amputee? He will, when the time is right. Only God is in a position to know the perfect time because only God knows the past, the present and the future.

    Suffering and death have value. It was by suffering and death that Jesus reopened the gates of heaven closed by Adam's sin. Christians accept suffering and death as from the hands of a loving Father, and they unite their sufferings with those of Jesus, Who died for them. It's not wrong to pray for healing, or relief from suffering, but when God does not remove them, the Christian accepts them and offers them up to God. In this way they share in the sufferings of Jesus on their behalf. Christians also try to relieve the suffering of others. This is considered a corporeal work of mercy and was taught by Jesus and His Church. In this way, Christians allow God to work through them in bringing healing and relief to others. So, we can see that God works both directly and indirectly through the good works of others.

    God answers every prayer. He wants everyone to be healed and complete. IF a person is not healed immediately, he will be healed in God's perfect timing , either here or in the next life. The present life is but the blink of an eye by comparison to eternity. Christians trust in God's Perfect Wisdom and Perfect Love. They wonder, but they do not question God's timing, love or mercy. They know He hears them. Men judge with very limited knowledge of all the factors involved in any specific case. They sometimes think that if they were God they would simply heal everyone, no questions asked. If only it were that simple. God knows the effect of any action He might take on everyone concerned. He alone knows what is best. Men are sometimes stupid in their appraisals of the Almighty and All Merciful God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    You want a simple answer, but a simple answer cannot be given. You think the condition of mankind is a simple matter, but it is not.

    Suffering and death entered into the world through the sins of men and angels. One might say, "Isn't that a severe penalty for some simple sin?"

    Mankind was created for perfect communion with God, their Creator. With perfect communion with God there is no suffering or death. However, the slightest separation from God ushers in suffering and death. It is not just that God is a just God or a God Who punishes evildoers, it is the very nature of things. Perfect communion gives perfect bliss. The slightest separation gives suffering and death. It's a law, it is cause and effect, it is no different than any of the many observable laws of the universe. It would be easy if all we had to do was re-commune with God, only that is not the way it works. Once separated, always separated, unless... unless perfect justice can be satisfied. That is why we need a redeemer; that is why the universe needs a redeemer. We can't do it, because we are forever tainted. But thanks to God a way was made for all to be restored. The way was by the perfect sacrifice of His Son, Jesus, dying on the cross so that we could be restored to our former communion with God. God substituted Himself to take on the penalty for our sins where we were unable to do so on our own.

    So why doesn't God heal the amputee? He will, when the time is right. Only God is in a position to know the perfect time because only God knows the past, the present and the future.

    Suffering and death have value. It was by suffering and death that Jesus reopened the gates of heaven closed by Adam's sin. Christians accept suffering and death as from the hands of a loving Father, and they unite their sufferings with those of Jesus, Who died for them. It's not wrong to pray for healing, or relief from suffering, but when God does not remove them, the Christian accepts them and offers them up to God. In this way they share in the sufferings of Jesus on their behalf. Christians also try to relieve the suffering of others. This is considered a corporeal work of mercy and was taught by Jesus and His Church. In this way, Christians allow God to work through them in bringing healing and relief to others. So, we can see that God works both directly and indirectly through the good works of others.

    God answers every prayer. He wants everyone to be healed and complete. IF a person is not healed immediately, he will be healed in God's perfect timing , either here or in the next life. The present life is but the blink of an eye by comparison to eternity. Christians trust in God's Perfect Wisdom and Perfect Love. They wonder, but they do not question God's timing, love or mercy. They know He hears them. Men judge with very limited knowledge of all the factors involved in any specific case. They sometimes think that if they were God they would simply heal everyone, no questions asked. If only it were that simple. God knows the effect of any action He might take on everyone concerned. He alone knows what is best. Men are sometimes stupid in their appraisals of the Almighty and All Merciful God.
    Hmmmmm. The principle of substitution for you sins does not sit well with me, any more than something else that Yahweh loves in the OT: sacrifice. The tribal sacrificial goat should have sufficed. So getting back to prayer, if I pray for a pink cadillac, why cannot god deliver me a pink caddy as I prayed? OR A NEW ARM OR LEG?

    After all, he promised! This shows clearly that God/Jesus is a a a a liar... and a deceiver.
    • "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." (Matthew 21:22)


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