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    "God Particle" Found? "Historic Milestone" From Higgs Boson Hunters

    Newfound particle may be at the core of existence.


    In an artist's conception, a Higgs boson erupts from a collision of protons.

    Illustration by Moonrunner Design Ltd., National Geographic


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    Published July 4, 2012
    "I think we have it. You agree?"
    Speaking to a packed audience Wednesday morning in Geneva, CERN director general Rolf Heuer confirmed that two separate teams working at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) are more than 99 percent certain they've discovered the Higgs boson, aka the God particleor at the least a brand-new particle exactly where they expected the Higgs to be.
    The long-sought particlemay complete the standard model of physics by explaining why objects in our universe have massand in so doing, why galaxies, planets, and even humans have any right to exist.
    (See Large Hadron Collider pictures.)


    "We have a discovery," Heuer said at the seminar. "We have observed a new particle consistent with a Higgs boson."
    At the meeting were four theorists who helped develop the Higgs theory in the 1960s, including Peter Higgs himself, who could be seen wiping away tears as the announcement was made.
    Although preliminary, the results show a so-called five-sigma of significance, which means that there is only a one in a million chance that the Higgs-like signal the teams observed is a statistical fluke.
    "It's a tremendous and exciting time," said physicist Michael Tuts, who works with the ATLAS (A Toroidal LHC Apparatus) Experiment, one of the two Higgs-seeking LHC projects.


    The Columbia University physicist had organized a wee-hours gathering of physicists and students in the U.S. to watch the announcement, which took place at 9 a.m., Geneva time.
    "This is the payoff. This is what you do it for."
    The two LHC teams searching for the Higgs—the other being the CMS (Compact Muon Solenoid) project—did so independently. Neither one knew what the other would present this morning.


    "It was interesting that the competing experiment essentially had the same result," said physicist Ryszard Stroynowski, an ATLAS team member based at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. "It provides additional confirmation."
    CERN head Heuer called today's announcement a "historic milestone" but cautioned that much work lies ahead as physicists attempt to confirm the newfound particle's identity and further probe its properties.


    For example, though the teams are certain the new particle has the proper mass for the predicted Higgs boson, they still need to determine whether it behaves as the God particle is thought to behave—and therefore what its role in the creation and maintenance of the universe is.
    "I think we can all be proud ... but it's a beginning," Heuer said.


    Higgs Boson Results ExceededExpectations
    The five-sigma results from both the ATLAS and CMS experiments exceeded the expectations of many physicists, including David Evans, leader of the U.K. team that works on the LHC-based ALICE (A Large Ion Collider Experiment) Collaboration.
    Evans had predicted Tuesday the teams would announce a four-sigma result—just short of the rigorous standard traditionally required for a new-particle observation to officially count as a true discovery and not a fluke.


    "It's even better than I expected," said Evans, of the University of Birmingham in the U.K. "I think we can say the Higgs is here. It exists."
    Evans attributed the stronger-than-expected results to "a mixture of the LHC doing a fantastic job" and "ATLAS and CMS doing a fantastic job of improving their analysis since December," when the two teams announced a two-sigma observation of signs of a Higgs-like particle.
    "So even with the same data, they can get more significance."


    ATLAS spokesperson Fabiola Gianotti also had high praise for the LHC, a multibillion-dollar machine that had suffered numerous mishaps and setbacks in its early days. (Related: "Electrical Glitch Delays Large Hadron Collider.")
    "The LHC and experiments have been doing miracles. I think we are working beyond design," the Italian particle physicist added.
    ALICE's Evans said he was extremely pleased by the Higgs results but admitted feeling just a bit disappointed that the results weren't more surprising.


    "Secretly I would have loved it to be something slightly different than the standard model predictions, because that would indicate that there's something more out there."
    On God-Particle Hunt, It's "Easy to Fool Yourself"
    Wednesday's announcement builds on results from last December, when the ATLAS and CMS teams said their data suggested that the Higgs boson has a mass of about 125 gigaelectron volts (GeV)—about 125 times the mass of a proton, a positively charged particle in an atom's nucleus.
    (See "Hints of Higgs Boson Seen at LHC—Proof by Next Summer?")


    "For the first time there was a case where we expected to [rule out] the Higgs, and we weren't able to do so," said Tim Barklow, an experimental physicist with the ATLAS Experiment who's based at Stanford University's SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory.
    A two-sigma finding translates to about a 95 percent chance that results are not due to a statistical fluke.


    While that might seem impressive, it falls short of the stringent five-sigma level that high-energy physicists traditionally require for an official discovery. Five sigma means there's a less than one in a million probability that a finding is due to chance.
    "We make these rules and impose them on ourselves because, when you are exploring on the frontier, it is easy to fool yourself," said Michael Peskin, a theoretical physicist also at SLAC.
    (Related: "'God Particle' May Be Five Distinct Particles, New Evidence Shows.")


    Higgs Holds It All Together?
    The Higgs boson is one of the final puzzle pieces required for a complete understanding of the standard model of physics—the so-far successful theory that explains how fundamental particles interact with the elementary forces of nature.
    The so-called God particle was proposed in the 1960s by Peter Higgs to explain why some particles, such as quarks—building blocks of protons, among other things—and electrons have mass, while others, such as the light-carrying photon particle, do not.


    Higgs's idea was that the universe is bathed in an invisible field similar to a magnetic field. Every particle feels this field—now known as the Higgs field—but to varying degrees.
    If a particle can move through this field with little or no interaction, there will be no drag, and that particle will have little or no mass. Alternatively, if a particle interacts significantly with the Higgs field, it will have a higher mass.
    The idea of the Higgs field requires the acceptance of a related particle: the Higgs boson.
    According to the standard model, if the Higgs field didn't exist, the universe would be a very different place, said SLAC's Peskin, who isn't involved in the LHC experiments.


    "It would be very difficult to form atoms," Peskin said. "So our orderly world, where matter is made of atoms, and electrons form chemical bonds—we wouldn't have that if we did not have the Higgs field."
    In other words: no galaxies, no stars, no planets, no life on Earth.


    "Nature Is Really Nasty" to Higgs Boson Seekers
    Buried beneath the French-Swiss border, the Large Hadron Collider is essentially a 17-mile-long (27-kilometer-long) oval tunnel. Inside, counter-rotating beams of protons are boosted to nearly the speed of light using an electric field before being magnetically steered into collisions.
    Exotic fundamental particles—some of which likely haven't existed since the early moments after the big bang—are created in the high-energy crashes. But the odd particles hang around for only fractions of a second before decaying into other particles.
    (Also see "Strange Particle Created; May Rewrite How Matter's Made.")


    Theory predicts that the Higgs boson's existence is too fleeting to be recorded by LHC instruments, but physicists think they can confirm its creation if they can spot the particles it decays into. (Explore a Higgs boson interactive.)
    Now that the Higgs boson—or something like it—has been confirmed to indeed have a mass of around 125 to 126 GeV, scientists have a better idea why the God particle has avoided detection for so long.


    This mass is just high enough to be out of reach of earlier, lower-energy particle accelerators, such as the LHC's predecessor, the Large Electron-Positron Collider, which could probe to only about 115 GeV.
    At the same time 125 GeV is not so massive that it produces decay products so unusual that their detection would be clear proof of the Higgs's existence.


    In reality the Higgs appears to transform into relatively commonplace decay products such as quarks, which are produced by the millions at the LHC.
    "It just so happens that nature is really nasty to us, and the range that we've narrowed [the Higgs] down to is the range that makes it most difficult to find," ALICE's Evans said.


    Despite the challenges, ATLAS's Gianotti said, it's fortunate that the Higgs has the mass that it does.
    "It's very nice for the standard-model Higgs boson to be at that mass," she said. "Because at that mass we can measure it at the LHC in a huge number of final states. So, thanks Nature."


    Going for the Gold
    While the search for the Higgs was a primary motivation for the construction of the LHC, activity at the world's largest atom smasher won't stop if the Higgs boson is confirmed.
    For one thing, the two teams will be busy preparing the data they presented today for submission to scientific journals for publication.
    There are also lingering questions that will require years of follow-up work, such as what the God particle's "decay channels" are—that is, what particles the Higgs transforms into as it sheds energy.


    The answer to that question will allow physicists to determine whether the particle they have discovered is the one predicted from theory or something more exotic, Columbia University's Tuts said.
    "Does it really smell and taste like a Higgs? Is it being produced at the rate that a standard model Higgs would predict? That's the work that's going to go on over the course of this year at least," he added.


    Something the public often forgets, too, is that ATLAS and CMS make up only two of the LHC's four major experiments, Evans said. The other two—the LHCb Collaboration and Evan's own ALICE—are investigating other physics arcana, such as why the universe contains so little antimatter.
    (See "Antimatter Atoms Trapped for First Time—'A Big Deal.'")


    "If you want to compare it to the Olympics, finding the Higgs would be like winning just one gold medal," Evans said.
    "I'm sure most countries would like to win more than one gold medal. And I think CERN is going to deliver a lot more gold medals over the years."




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    THE world's leading physicists are facing months and years of painstaking work to unlock the mind-blowing potential of the "God particle" after a breakthrough discovery.

    Scientists at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced yesterday they had discovered a new sub-atomic particle consistent with the elusive Higgs boson, a theoretical particle that is key to the scientific understanding of all matter.
    The find was hailed across the globe, with renowned British physicist Stephen Hawking calling for the man who lent his name to the particle, Peter Higgs, to be given the Nobel Prize.
    After the initial excitement, however, scientists are embarking on a long journey to confirm the particle is indeed the Higgs boson -- and if so, exactly what form it takes.
    Archive: The Higgs explained, with pop references
    "It's clear there's a great deal more to be done experimentally, even after they announce a discovery," Steven Weinberg, a professor of physics at the University of Texas at Austin, told The Guardian.
    The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) in Switzerland, where the experiments took place, is due to close down at the end of the year for repairs so researchers are racing to collect as much information as possible.



    Jubilant scientists respond to the Higgs boson announcement at the Geneva seminar yesterday. Pictures: AP
    Source: The Daily Telegraph




    "Seeing something new is really the beginning of this long journey to understand what on Earth it is that you have seen," Tara Shears, who works on the LHCb detector at Cern, said. "It's like turning up to a railway station to pick someone up who you've never met before. You arrive at the station, the train comes in, and there's someone standing on the platform. You're guessing it's them, but you're not going to know until you walk up and check who they are."
    Scientists have already cautioned that the discovery may not answer all the questions they have about pressing mysteries in nature.
    "I find it a very depressing prospect, the possibility that this may be the last great discovery for many decades," Prof. Weinberg added.
    Nonetheless, the scientific world was in agreement that the discovery was of major importance.
    "If the decay and other interactions of this particle are as we expect, it will be strong evidence for the so-called standard model of particle physics, the theory that explains all our experiments so far," Mr. Hawking said.



    Physicist Stephen Hawking looks at an animated clipping of himself from popular television serial The Simpsons / File
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    The former Cambridge University professor also joked that the discovery had actually cost him $100 in a bet.
    In an interview with the BBC on Wednesday, Mr. Hawking, who has motor neurone disease, said: "This is an important result and should earn Peter Higgs the Nobel Prize.
    "But it is a pity in a way because the great advances in physics have come from experiments that gave results we didn't expect. For this reason I had a bet with Gordon Kane of Michigan University that the Higgs particle wouldn't be found. It seems I have just lost $100."
    CERN said yesterday that the discovery was a milestone in the understanding of nature, although physicists stressed the results presented at a joint conference in Melbourne and Geneva were preliminary.
    They were unsure if the particle was the long sought-after Higgs boson, or God particle, or something more "exotic".
    "The next step will be to determine the precise nature of the particle and its significance for our understanding of the universe," a CERN statement said.



    British physicist Peter Higgs arrives for the opening of a seminar to deliver the latest update in the 50-year bid to explain a riddle of fundamental matter in the search for a particle called the Higgs boson at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Meyrin, near Geneva. Picture: AFP
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    CERN director general Rolf Heuer said it was a milestone.
    "We have reached a milestone in our understanding of nature," he said. "The discovery of a particle consistent with the Higgs boson opens the way to more detailed studies, requiring larger statistics, which will pin down the new particle's properties, and is likely to shed light on other mysteries of our universe."
    CERN said positive identification of the new particle's characteristics would take considerable time and data.
    Physicists have been trying for 30 years to find evidence that the theoretical subatomic particle exists, leading to the CERN experiments using the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider particle accelerator, 100 metres underground near Geneva.
    A summary of experiments conducted by one of the two teams at the Large Hadron Collider said further analysis of the particle was needed.

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    That smirk of satisfaction when your 40-year-old "rejected" theory was just proven.

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    Forgive me for being skeptical. So if I understand it a team of physicists dream up the Higgs Boson fifty years ago. They try desperately to find it or prove its existence but can't. They build the predecessor to the CERN collider to find it but can't. They spend a boatload of money to build a better collider because after trying their best they can't find this mythical particle (theoretical). Now they have found something. It decays to fast to tell what it is but this unknown mythical particle has a magically known decay process. They can't tell whether the never observed particle is created or not but see what the theoretical decay products of the theoretical particle in a collider specifically designed and funded to find this particle. How certain are they that the observer is not seeing what he wants to see. That is a classic stumbling block of science. It tends to see what it is looking for when searching for something. How many times have they announced they found the missing link only to have each one proven that it can't possibly be an ancestor to man within about a decade. I will wait to join in the excitement until they have something more solid to hang their hat on than this very, very weak evidence. They always way oversell these types of findings. This is where reputations are made that make a career even though they are later disproved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shred View Post
    Forgive me for being skeptical. So if I understand it a team of physicists dream up the Higgs Boson fifty years ago. They try desperately to find it or prove its existence but can't. They build the predecessor to the CERN collider to find it but can't. They spend a boatload of money to build a better collider because after trying their best they can't find this mythical particle (theoretical). Now they have found something. It decays to fast to tell what it is but this unknown mythical particle has a magically known decay process.

    They can't tell whether the never observed particle is created or not but see what the theoretical decay products of the theoretical particle in a collider specifically designed and funded to find this particle. How certain are they that the observer is not seeing what he wants to see. That is a classic stumbling block of science. It tends to see what it is looking for when searching for something. How many times have they announced they found the missing link only to have each one proven that it can't possibly be an ancestor to man within about a decade. I will wait to join in the excitement until they have something more solid to hang their hat on than this very, very weak evidence. They always way oversell these types of findings. This is where reputations are made that make a career even though they are later disproved.
    Admit it. You'd like to see this Higgs Field thing fail because if it proves true, it relegates Creationism to the laughing stock pile of bulldust that it always was. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    Admit it. You'd like to see this Higgs Field thing fail because if it proves true, it relegates Creationism to the laughing stock pile of bulldust that it always was. Right?

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    Actually I was excited because it shows the mechanism God used for creation. Then the excitement faded when I read their story of what they observed. They usually non religious community of scientists were no doubt thinking along these lines when they named it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    Admit it. You'd like to see this Higgs Field thing fail because if it proves true, it relegates Creationism to the laughing stock pile of bulldust that it always was. Right?

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    I'm really not even sure what this doctrine of creationism is that you speak of. We do not have any such doctrine in the Catholic Church. We do believe that God created the universe, but we place no constraints on how He did so or how long it took. So, it may have happened in 6 literal days, or it may have taken 6 eons, es macht nichts. God may have used an evolutionary process for some or all of creation, He may have created all in a "big bang" and let it evolve from there, or he may have done it very quickly-- let science figure it all out, I wasn't there.

    One thing for sure is that God particle or not, God did create the universe. I suspect, as is the usual case, the God particle will leave the origin of the universe just as shrouded in mystery as before. I don't mean the process or processes, but the origin itself. As for God, His existence is self evident. Unfortunately, science is in the business of studying trees, and for this reason many scientists cannot see the forest. Step back, Einstein! There's more out there than meets the scientific eye!
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    Gee, I hope the God particle is not itself comprised of millions of smaller pieces, maybe even a few black holes. Name:  smiley-shocked012.gif
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    I miss the good old days when life was simpler and the smallest part of the universe was the atom (and its composite parts-- lol). Who-da thought?
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    Default God: Great Job On Finding My Particle!

    God, the author of The Last Testament: A Memoir, took some time off from helping Tim Tebow and Jeremy Lin to thank the scientists for finding that missing particle—who would’ve thought to look in the particle collider!

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    First off, they’re all My particles, OK? I made every last one of them, from the hunky handsome proton to the waifish, Starbucks-named neutrino. So when you attach My name only to the Higgs boson you insult the decillions of quarks, leptons, gluons, and all the other “little particles” without whose hard work and collaborative spirit the universe would cease to exist, at least with the same brio.

    Secondly, congratulations! You did a heck of a job. First and foremost, kudos to Professor Higgs himself, the man who decades ago predicted the existence of a mass-bestowing particle. As you may know he is an avowed atheist, so I thought it was rather kind of Me to let him revel in his earthly success before sending him off to spend eternity as the anguished m in a fiery E=mc2 conversion sequence.

    In truth I’m not that surprised you guys found it—sorry, “guys and girls.” Old Testament habits die hard! Humanity has always had a talent for having dogged faith in, then interpreting squiggly lines on paper as proving the existence of, entities that are impossible to see. (No one appreciates that more than Me.)

    What does surprise me is how much attention the whole thing got. I never thought I’d see the day when “CERN” trended on Twitter. It must have been extremely gratifying for the research team to see the name of their laboratory make the same prestigious list as #NorwayLovesBieber and #replace70ssongtitleswithpoop. To be honest I can’t remember the last time a physics breakthrough got this kind of international media attention. Kidding! Of course I do; I’m God. It was August 6, 1945, and it killed.

    But the larger point is: I’m still God. Your discovery doesn’t threaten Me. Unlike the CERN researchers I do not “sweat the small stuff”. I see the big picture, which is that no matter how much insight and control you gain over matter, you will never control time. You can’t see what’s coming; only I can. That’s why I win.

    Besides, even when it comes to the material world you haven’t even begun to scratch the surface of the absolutely crazy shit I threw into quantum physics. For example, in about five years or so you’re going to smash together a quark and an antiquark and discover a new particle that actually folds out into a bed.

    It’s called a futon.

    Zing! Like I said, never saw it coming.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-particle.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    God, the author of The Last Testament: A Memoir, took some time off from helping Tim Tebow and Jeremy Lin to thank the scientists for finding that missing particle—who would’ve thought to look in the particle collider!

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    First off, they’re all My particles, OK? I made every last one of them, from the hunky handsome proton to the waifish, Starbucks-named neutrino. So when you attach My name only to the Higgs boson you insult the decillions of quarks, leptons, gluons, and all the other “little particles” without whose hard work and collaborative spirit the universe would cease to exist, at least with the same brio.

    Secondly, congratulations! You did a heck of a job. First and foremost, kudos to Professor Higgs himself, the man who decades ago predicted the existence of a mass-bestowing particle. As you may know he is an avowed atheist, so I thought it was rather kind of Me to let him revel in his earthly success before sending him off to spend eternity as the anguished m in a fiery E=mc2 conversion sequence.

    In truth I’m not that surprised you guys found it—sorry, “guys and girls.” Old Testament habits die hard! Humanity has always had a talent for having dogged faith in, then interpreting squiggly lines on paper as proving the existence of, entities that are impossible to see. (No one appreciates that more than Me.)

    What does surprise me is how much attention the whole thing got. I never thought I’d see the day when “CERN” trended on Twitter. It must have been extremely gratifying for the research team to see the name of their laboratory make the same prestigious list as #NorwayLovesBieber and #replace70ssongtitleswithpoop. To be honest I can’t remember the last time a physics breakthrough got this kind of international media attention. Kidding! Of course I do; I’m God. It was August 6, 1945, and it killed.

    But the larger point is: I’m still God. Your discovery doesn’t threaten Me. Unlike the CERN researchers I do not “sweat the small stuff”. I see the big picture, which is that no matter how much insight and control you gain over matter, you will never control time. You can’t see what’s coming; only I can. That’s why I win.

    Besides, even when it comes to the material world you haven’t even begun to scratch the surface of the absolutely crazy shit I threw into quantum physics. For example, in about five years or so you’re going to smash together a quark and an antiquark and discover a new particle that actually folds out into a bed.

    It’s called a futon.

    Zing! Like I said, never saw it coming.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-particle.html
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    As you see him so you shall become.
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    At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more,
    When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death,
    And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.


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