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    The Rise of Christianity

    Nascent Christianity was one of several apocalyptic Jewish sects active during the Second Temple period.

    By Lawrence H. Schiffman


    The following article is reprinted with permission from From Text to Tradition:
    A History of Second Temple and Rabbinic Judaism (Ktav).


    Apocalypse Now

    Christianity was firmly anchored in the heritage of Second Temple sectarianism. Various documents from the corpus of materials discovered in the Qumran caves tell us of the extreme apocalypticism of some groups of Jews in this period. These groups hoped for the immediate revelation of a messiah who would redeem them from their misfortunes and tribulations. [The Qumran caves, located near the Dead Sea, housed scrolls containing writings of the Dead Sea sect, an apocalyptic sect active during Second Temple times, as well as substantial fragments of Jewish literature from the period.]

    As time went on, and political and economic conditions worsened, they became more and more convinced that the messianic delivery would be accompanied by a cataclysm. The forces of evil, usually identified both with Israelite transgressors and with the non-Jewish powers that dominated the Jewish people, would then be totally destroyed. This view took its cue from the prophetic idea of the Day of the Lord. The destruction would be accompanied by a utopian messianism wherein an ideal society would come into existence with the restoration of the Davidic monarchy.

    Christians Identified Jesus as the Davidic Messiah

    When Christianity came to the fore in the first century C.E., its adherents saw themselves as living in the period of the fulfillment of these visions. They identified Jesus as the Davidic messiah who would usher in the eventual destruction of all evil.

    Any study of the career of Jesus and the rise of the Christian church must acknowledge that Palestine in this period gave rise to occasional messianic and prophetic figures. Among these was John the Baptist, who, according to the New Testament, was the teacher and inspiration of Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDutton View Post

    Any study of the career of Jesus and the rise of the Christian church must acknowledge that Palestine in this period gave rise to occasional messianic and prophetic figures. Among these was John the Baptist, who, according to the New Testament, was the teacher and inspiration of Jesus.
    Oh, really. Now where did they find this? Inquiring minds want to know! Book, Chapter, Verse, if you don't mind.

    My BS detector keeps going off. Please, a little peace!
    Wrong will be right, when Aslan comes in sight
    At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more,
    When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death,
    And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.


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    (Cut & pasted from the article above):
    The Crucifixion and its Consequences


    ...'In any case, Jesus's teachings apparently raised the ire of some of the Hellenized Jews in the leadership of the high priesthood, as well as of the Romans, who decreed his crucifixion.'...

    This (above) is patently false. We've seen how a certain Bishop has said Jesus and God were/are the same 'person'. The good Bishop believes it was them damn dirty Jews who were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. Now we have a Jew claiming it was them damn dirty Romans that did it. Here's what I reckon: GOD DID IT. After all, God and Jesus were the same dude. God wanted himself murdered good and proper, in his Jesus-look-alike-form so that he could instigate the greatest con job of all time: Followers for ever more would be convinced that God died on the cross for all your sins. There... Was that convincing enough for ye of so little faith? Sorry, I really cannot do any better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    It does not sound like Jesus came for you, Katweezel.

    Jesus hearing this, saith to them: They that are well have no need of a physician, but they that are sick. For I came not to call the just, but sinners. Mark 2:17
    Wrong will be right, when Aslan comes in sight
    At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more,
    When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death,
    And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    It does not sound like Jesus came for you, Katweezel.

    Jesus hearing this, saith to them: They that are well have no need of a physician, but they that are sick. For I came not to call the just, but sinners. Mark 2:17
    This is actually how the whole christianity was built.

    The church was exterminating the just, while endorsing the sinners.

    All those who were cheating, stealing, killing are now proud members of christianity.
    When you have eliminated all the impossible, whatever remains, however implausible, must be the logic truth...

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    The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
    Wrong will be right, when Aslan comes in sight
    At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more,
    When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death,
    And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
    Dear Az, He's been dead for 2000 years. But if he was still alive, I'm sure Jesus would love me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    Dear Az, He's been dead for 2000 years. But if he was still alive, I'm sure Jesus would love me.

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    Of course He would love you. He even loves the poor souls who have damned themselves to hell.

    For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins. Matthew 26:28

    If all are saved, why do anything? Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die! No, I don't think that is the gospel message. I would not presume on God's mercy, if I were you.
    Wrong will be right, when Aslan comes in sight
    At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more,
    When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death,
    And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.


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