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    Default Debunking the illusion that jfk's head moved forward

    This silly argument has been used by government loyalists for decades but finally it can be shown to be an illusion. His head appears to move forward slightly between 312-313 but what really happens is jfk's bottom skull half gapes open providing this illusion. What these crazies failed to show is someone besides jfk, shot from the rear that goes forward slightly, stops, and violently goes backward. It's impossible on its face but debunking any jfk myth is good because there are so many and this one is used by both conspiracy kooks and WC supporters.

    If you look at the top rear of his head and hair, it stays in the same position with the white line. The bottom half of his skull gapes open from front impact causing this illusion that I figured out only two days ago. After two years things keep coming to me and this one is important for both debunking goverment crazies and disinfo idiots who promote two shots to the head.

    This capture shows perfectly the rear skull gaped open with the top and bottom on the same vertical level.

    Notice that jfk's nose never moves but his head appears to move forward because of the rear starting to break.

    What happened is jfk's forehead absorbed the impact making his head kind of straighten before slamming backward. This can be seen in nix also.

    Watch his right front kind of contract from impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi View Post
    The only silly argument is that a gaping wound can create the illusion that his head moved forward.
    Sorry but one has nothing to do with the other in fact your posted images clearly showed that his head did move forward slightly before the wound appeared.
    As with the rest of your empty and false claims this one fails
    The only silly argument is that a gaping wound can create the illusion that any head could move slightly in one direction before reversing violently in the opposite direction.

    Sorry, but one has everything thing to do with the other and in fact the images clearly show that his head did not move forward slightly before the wound appeared.

    As with the rest of your empty and false claims of government support this one fails, as have all the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobster View Post
    no matter how many times i look at it, there's still a gap there from him moving his head. you helped illustrate this movement by drawing the lines on, so thankyou
    Of course there's gap in the middle where the exit wound was but the top rear never moves forward of the white line. The exit wound's clearly on the right rear at the moment of front impact.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi View Post
    The images clearly show that his head did move forward before going back and to the left.
    Everyone looking at YOUR post sees that his head moves forward of the white line which you placed in the picture. Sorry but you are proven wrong it did move forward consistent with a shot from behind.
    Like all of your claims you simply deny reality to make up an imaginary scenario
    Everyone looking at the gif sees that the top rear never moves forward. Sorry, but this myth is debunked and his head did not move forward with the fantasy shot from behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggabum View Post
    I like 7's posts.
    The thing is, I dont see how 7's theory is any less plausable than the Grassy Knoll Theory, and there's far more subscribe to that.
    Admittedly, I dont see or agree with everything that 7 puts forward, but the fact that I do see some of his evidence is enough to make me think he may be on to something. He has obviously researched this a lot and must know that what he was putting forward challenged the established theories and he would be laughed at by some people, who in my opinion, seem to accept other theories that have far less supporting evidence.
    As for the head moving forward...there are a few possibilities that 7 may or may not have considered. Firstly He could be right and its an optical illusion caused by the gape. There is also the possibility that, as we know, Zapruder stated that the film that was returned to him was different to the film he gave up, so there is a possibility that the forward movement is faked...or my thoughts are that assuming 7 is right and Greer pulled the trigger, he may have took his foot of the gas slightly as he turned to fire and this, causing the car to slow, caused those in the car to lurch forward slightly, I back this up by looking at the gifs and noticing that all exept Mrs K seem to move forward slightly in sync with JFK.
    There is only one possibility, the correct one. The rear of his skull gaped causing this illusion that didn't support a shot from the rear anyway. It was a moot point. The only way I could be wrong about his head NOT moving forward is if it could be proven that jfk did not have an exit wound on the right rear. He clearly did and slow motion has confirmed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
    Everyone looking at the gif sees that the top rear never moves forward. Sorry, but this myth is debunked and his head did not move forward with the fantasy shot from behind.
    What you are seeing is blood shooting out a small entrance hole in the top back of his head. This hole is present in the autopsy photos and is most definitely not an exit wound. It is what is expected to be seen in this photo given the autopsy evidence. There is no gaping hole in the back of his head in the autopsy photos. There is a large flap of skin that hangs down when he is on his back that gives this illusion from that position but the the flap is from the side of his head above and behind his ear. The people who say they saw a gaping hole in the back of his head are clearly basing it on this illusion having only viewed him lying on his back most likely from a distance. Notice photos 1, 8, 10 and 14 in the link to the autopsy photos. Photo 1 shows the small bullet hole in the back of the skull. Photos 8 and 14 show the angle that caused the illusion. The flap is visible above the ear in photos 1 and 10 and is clearly on the side of the head.

    http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/history/news-jfk-autopsies-and-conspiries-photos?image=1

    Try looking at the evidence and interpreting were it leads rather than having a crazy theory and seeing how I can twist the evidence to fit it. Kennedy's head very clearly comes forward in the enlargement. The James Files confession explains everything about as neatly as anything I have seen. A split second after impact in the rear a mercury bullet hits Kennedy in the temple from the side. It fits all the evidence including wound types and placement, blood and bone splatter as well as the eye witness testimony of where the shots came from and the audio witness of people and the police tape that the two shots at the time of the head shot could not have been fired by the same gun particularly a bolt action weapon. At the time of the second image in the quote the head has moved forward from the rear impact and twisted to the left from the mercury bullet leaving the nose in the same position 2 dimensionally from the angle of the filming party. This confirms the two shot theory that is in the Files confession. It is the only way the head can move forward and the nose seem to remain in the same position from the angle of the video. Files story once again fits the evidence perfectly.
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    I do have to go to the next level, that's true. But I have learned most everything during my time posting which started in 1-10. I just found the rear gaping at impact a few months ago. So, that shows how much time it took for things to come to me. It was slow motion from gifsoup that revealed the rear gape.


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    Default Stop altering the video evidence. There is a master copy of the stills to compare to.

    [QUOTE=7forever;185780]I do have to go to the next level, that's true. But I have learned most everything during my time posting which started in 1-10. I just found the rear gaping at impact a few months ago. So, that shows how much time it took for things to come to me. It was slow motion from gifsoup that revealed the rear gape.
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    Why do you keep putting the video up when it still contains frames added by someone in their photoshop. We know there is frame 312, no blood, bullet not there yet and frame 313 with the big blood cloud. There are no other frames with a blood cloud except 313. You have at least one extra frame in your slomo. Is that the frame with the alleged rear gape? I don't see it in the Zapruder still frames. This is the link to all the still frames in the video. Look at 312, 313 and 314. only 313 has a blood cloud. That is 1 frame. Notice how clearly you can see Jackie's eye in 412 and 314. The added frame by 7forever hides her eye in the above loop. It doesn't exist in the Zapruder film.


    http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

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    Default Jfk was shot from the front

    The experts are debunked by nix and muchmore which both show him being shot from the front. The experts lied and made up bullshit to support the government. Nothing more happened coming from government apologists. No experts are needed to prove he was shot from the front. If someone could find a man going backward from a rear shot then things would change but that isn't possible. Experts in trials say things all the time and are debunked and rejected all the time. The films dismiss this silliness and it was never taken seriously by any honest person at any time since the assassination.


    Going forward from a rear shot.

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    Default The jackie shot jfk joke is proper silliness

    It does a great job of showing the right rear gaping open...NICE.




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