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    US Senator Wyden: Fukushima Fuel Pool Is a National Security Issue for AMERICA

    Posted on May 6, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog



    Fukushima Fuel Pools Are an American National Security Issue

    After visiting Fukushima, Senator Ron Wyden warned that the situation was worse than reported … and urged Japan to accept international help to stabilize dangerous spent fuel pools.

    An international coalition of nuclear scientists and non-profit groups are calling on the U.N. to coordinate a multi-national effort to stabilize the fuel pools. And see this.

    Fuel pool number 4 is, indeed, the top short-term threat facing humanity.

    Anti-nuclear physician Dr. Helen Caldicott says that if fuel pool 4 collapses, she will evacuate her family from Boston and move them to the Southern Hemisphere. This is an especially dramatic statement given that the West Coast is much more directly in the path of Fukushima radiation than the East Coast.

    And nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen recently said (at 25:00):

    There’s more cesium in that [Unit 4] fuel pool than in all 800 nuclear bombs exploded above ground…

    MORE- http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...r-america.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    For decades, our greatest human minds tinkered around with the nuclear option. Even Albert Einstein. But even the smartest were stupid enough to build nuclear reactors on earthquake fault lines and near the ocean; sitting ducks for the (sooner or later) expected quakes and tsunamis. From the rest of humanity, THANKS A FRIGGIN LOT YO STOOPID MOFUS. Science gone mad, and now it's killing us. Japan is history. No more Toyotas.

    We all thought it would be The HBomb. But no, it's creeping nuclear radiation poison particles in our air, water and food that will be killing us. China is hoping prevailing westerly winds will blow the deadly toxins toward... you know where...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
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    Yeah, well the earth's atmosphere does (eventually) circulate overall; but YOU are right in the firing line of the prevailing winds. If you'd like to move somewhere to give you more time in the event of yet another catastrophe hitting #4 well at Fukushima, I know of a nice little sheep farm not far from me that could suit you. It's in the Southern hemisphere, which might give you two or three extra years, if you pray to Allah. Nearest casino is only 480km away, and the town does have a catholic church. Do you know anything (besides eating lamb) about how to farm sheep?
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    From: "NaturalNews"
    Fukushima is orders of magniture more immediate in terms of its threat to our continued way of life in the Northern hemisphere.


    The mass cover-up of the Fukushima situation is being called Plume-Gate, and today's feature story explains Plume-Gate in more detail:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/035847_pl...radiation.html
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    (NaturalNews) Hundreds of Alaska Airlines flight attendants have filed a formal complaint about uniforms they suspect might be causing their skin to rash and develop lesions, and their hair to fall out. But based on the timing of the symptoms and their relation to similar symptoms in local marine life and polar bear populations, it appears as though radiation from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster may also be a potential culprit.


    Learn more:http://www.naturalnews.com/035884_fl...#ixzz1v5uextyi
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    After writing my essay “Radioactive Hell on Earth”—actually I wanted to change that title to “Fukushima on Steroids”—I see Christina Consolo’s essay “Fukushima is Falling Apart”: Are you ready—it is becoming clear that we, our children and our entire civilization is hanging by a thread. It is a very sorry thing to report that we have literally shot ourselves in the foot with a big nuclear shotgun full of radioactive particles of the worst conceivable kind.

    It has taken a year but finally “a U.S. Senator finally got off his ass and went to Japan to see what is going on over there. What he saw was horrific. Reactor No. 4 building is on the verge of collapsing. Seismicity standards rate the building at a zero, meaning even a small earthquake could send it into a heap of rubble. And sitting at the top of the building, in a pool that is cracked, leaking, and precarious even without an earthquake, are 1,565 fuel rods.” If an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire that could wipe out most of the northern hemisphere; certainly it would be a massive civilization-breaking event.

    After an onsite tour of what remains of the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear facilities, U.S. Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, sent a letter to Japanese Ambassador Ichiro Fujisaki saying, “The scope of damage to the plants and to the surrounding area was far beyond what I expected. The precarious status of the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear units and the risk presented by the enormous inventory of radioactive materials and spent fuel in the event of further earthquake threats should be of concern to all and a focus of greater international support and assistance.”

    Fukushima Daiichi Reactor building 4 and exposed fuel pool
    Image source: Asahi Shimbun

    1,565 fuel rods translates into 460 tons of nuclear fuel stored in pool in a barely intact building on its third and fourth floors. If the storage pool breaks and runs dry, the nuclear fuel inside will overheat and explode. The worst-case scenario drawn up by the government includes not only the collapse of the No. 4 reactor pool, but also the disintegration of spent-fuel rods from all the plant’s other reactors. The wall of the south side is falling apart at reactor No. 4 and Dr. Helen Caldicott said she would evacuate her family from Boston if it did.



    Consolo says, “If this pool collapses, as Senator Wyden is now saying too, we would face a mass extinction event from the release of radiation in those rods. This may be the most important thing you ever pay attention to for the sake of your family, friends, your neighbors, every one you know and meet, all of humanity.”

    “Preliminary reports of soil contamination are starting to come in from the USGS, who has seemed reluctant to share this information. Los Angeles, California, Portland, Oregon and Boulder, Colorado so far have the highest radioactive particle contamination out of the entire U.S. Iodine, cesium, strontium, plutonium, uranium, and a host of other fission products have been coming directly from Japan to the west coast for thirteen months. Reports in the past week indicate the pollen in southern California is radioactive now too, and it is flying around, and if you live there and go outside, you are breathing it in. And so are your children,” continued Consolo.



    Spent reactor fuel cannot be simply lifted into the air by a crane as if it were routine cargo. In order to prevent severe radiation exposures, fires and possible explosions, it must be transferred at all times in water and heavily shielded structures into dry casks. As this has never been done before, the removal of the spent fuel from the pools at the damaged Fukushima-Dai-Ichi reactors will require a major and time-consuming reconstruction effort and will involve charting in unknown waters. Reports indicate that things are so hopeless at the plant that workers are not even working on weekends and certainly governments around the world have not gotten together in a desperate Manhattan Project[1] (in reverse) to save humanity.

    Arnold Gundersen, a former nuclear power industry executive, is claiming that the Fukushima nuclear disaster is already 10 times worse than the 1986 Chernobyl meltdown in the former Soviet Union. If that is true it’s already taps for a whole lot of men, women and children in the northern hemisphere with the absolute promise that the radiation will continue relentlessly through the coming years. It is sounding like nuclear hell coming to earth to teach us something about our arrogance, massive stupidity and pathetic weakness.

    While our government would love us all to believe that the nuclear problems in Japan are under control, nothing could be farther from the truth. Engineers for Tokyo Electric Power Co. (Tepco) say readings of airborne radiation inside reactor No. 2 showed almost 73 sieverts per hour this week. To put that into perspective, exposure to that amount of radiation would kill a normal person within minutes. These levels are some of the highest readings since the beginning of the disaster and there is no one telling us that this nuclear contamination will lessen.

    MOX Plutonium Fuel

    The mixed oxide fuel (MOX) reactor[2], which burns with plutonium/uranium, is more deadly than those burning on uranium-enriched fuel, according to nuclear experts. The half-life of plutonium-239 in MOX is 24,000 years and just a few milligrams of P-239 escaping in a smoke plume will contaminate soil for tens of thousands of years. A single milligram (mg) of MOX is as deadly as 2,000,000 mg of normal enriched uranium meaning that one mg of MOX is basically two million times more powerful than one mg of uranium. If even a small amount of this potent substance escapes from the plant in a smoke plume, the particles will travel with the wind and contaminate soil for tens of thousands of years.

    Ray Guilmette of the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements said that plutonium “is thousands of times more radioactive than uranium,” if absorbed into the body.

    Donald Olander, professor emeritus of nuclear engineering at the University of California, Berkeley, said that because plutonium decays quickly, it produces radiation that can kill cells in the body more quickly. But the plutonium itself would pose a severe threat only if it was involved in a violent reaction that turned it into dust particles that could be inhaled. No one knows the exact number but plenty of the fuel rods at risk are MOX, thus containing deadly plutonium. If that blows up then we might end up wishing we had had a nuclear war instead.

    Limited Nuclear Exchange

    If you want to know what this means from mainstream sources, tune into what International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW) and its U.S. affiliate,Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR) are saying would happen from just a limited nuclear war—forget about a full-scale meltdown of thousands of dirty nuclear fuel rods.

    More than a billion people around the world would face starvation following a limited regional nuclear weapons exchange (such as a clash between India and Pakistan) that would cause major worldwide climate disruption, driving down food production in China, the U.S. and other nations, according to a major new report released by Dr. Ira Helfand, the author of Nuclear Famine: A Billion People at Risk. Helfand said, “The needless and preventable deaths of one billion people over a decade would be a disaster unprecedented in human history. It would not cause the extinction of the human race, but it would bring an end to modern civilization as we know it.”

    The Dalai Lama summaries the situation saying, “We have degenerated into an insane society, unconsciously committing mass suicide by ecocide. Unrestrained corporate capitalism coercively and insidiously exploits vulnerable people and myopically plunders, depletes and corrupts finite planetary resources that sustain life. Billions of people suffer needless poverty, starvation and avoidable disease, while obscenely privileged corporate, political and religious plutocrats greedily acquire power and excessive material wealth far beyond any conceivable needs.”

    Special Note: These subjects are covered in my Nuclear Toxicity Syndrome book as well as the second edition of my Iodine book (both published in 2011), which dive deeply into the issue and threat of radioactive iodine. Having lots of sulfur on hand as well as sodium bicarbonate, iodine, clay and magnesium is a good start for a radiation survival home pharmacy.

    Dr. Mark Allan Sircus, Ac., OMD, DM (P)
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    [1] The Manhattan Project was a research and development program, led by the United States with participation from the United Kingdom and Canada that produced the first atomic bomb during World War II with intent to end the war.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project

    [2] http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...lear-plant.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    From: "NaturalNews"
    Fukushima is orders of magniture more immediate in terms of its threat to our continued way of life in the Northern hemisphere.


    The mass cover-up of the Fukushima situation is being called Plume-Gate, and today's feature story explains Plume-Gate in more detail:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/035847_pl...radiation.html
    I read the article and personally I think it is a crock to imagine the same potential here in the states. For one thing, they have been upgrading American nuclear reactors to prevent just this kind of disaster. There is "some" risk, I admit, but nothing on the scale Fukushima IMO. Also, I doubt that the entire northern hemisphere is in any serious danger from Fukushima. It would be impossible for the US and other countries to completely cover up this danger from all the scientists in the world with their ability to measure atmospheric contaminants independent of any governmental oversight. As in any conspiracy theory, this one is blown way out of proportion, although I do believe that the Japanese government has done its best to minimize the extent of the disaster. There is a grain of truth here, but a grain is not a wheat field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    Hanging by a Thread by Dr. Mark Allan Sircus, Ac., OMD,




    After writing my essay “Radioactive Hell on Earth”—actually I wanted to change that title to “Fukushima on Steroids”—I see Christina Consolo’s essay “Fukushima is Falling Apart”: Are you ready—it is becoming clear that we, our children and our entire civilization is hanging by a thread. It is a very sorry thing to report that we have literally shot ourselves in the foot with a big nuclear shotgun full of radioactive particles of the worst conceivable kind.
    ........................................

    [2] www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/03/15/mox-the-toxic-fuel-inside-japans-fukushima-daiichi-nuclear-plant.htm
    Where are all the qualified scientists to raise the alarm by corroborating these theories? Wow! The government sure is good at putting the cap on free expression. Listen, this disaster is really bad, I agree, but the potential for wiping out civilization sounds like overblown hype to create panic... and journalistic dollars. I put this in the category of Al Gore and his prognostications of impending doom from global warming. Give me a break! You case is not proven. You, a completely uninformed and technically uneducated individual wants me to believe one or two way-out reports alleging to be the inside skinny. You'll have to do far better than that.
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    Although I did notice a rabbit with 6 legs and three heads in my backyard last week, but that was probably just a freak of nature. Don't worry; be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    ...they have been upgrading American nuclear reactors to prevent just this kind of disaster. There is "some" risk, I admit, but nothing on the scale Fukushima IMO. Also, I doubt that the entire northern hemisphere is in any serious danger from Fukushima. It would be impossible for the US and other countries to completely cover up this danger from all the scientists in the world with their ability to measure atmospheric contaminants independent of any governmental oversight. As in any conspiracy theory, this one is blown way out of proportion, although I do believe that the Japanese government has done its best to minimize the extent of the disaster. There is a grain of truth here, but a grain is not a wheat field.
    From a single grain grew the wheatfield. BTW, I live next to San Onofre and its the same run-down 1965 GE Mark V reactors
    as Fukushima, and also near North America's biggest fault AND on the Ocean. Its been shut down for a while now. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    From a single grain grew the wheatfield. BTW, I live next to San Onofre and its the same run-down 1965 GE Mark V reactors
    as Fukushima, and also near North America's biggest fault AND on the Ocean. Its been shut down for a while now. zg
    Are you planning to move anytime soon, or are you content that it is safe enough to remain where you are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    From a single grain grew the wheatfield. BTW, I live next to San Onofre and its the same run-down 1965 GE Mark V reactors
    as Fukushima, and also near North America's biggest fault AND on the Ocean. Its been shut down for a while now. zg
    Cute. But so long as we are talking about a single grain, it remains a single grain and not a wheat field. Until such time that the single grain begins to spread, we are still only talking about a single grain. A single grain is not a wheat field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Cute. But so long as we are talking about a single grain, it remains a single grain and not a wheat field. Until such time that the single grain begins to spread, we are still only talking about a single grain. A single grain is not a wheat field.
    The single grain (reactor) has more nuclear material then 1000 warheads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    The single grain (reactor) has more nuclear material then 1000 warheads.
    And none of it is capable of resulting in a nuclear fission or fusion explosion. Yes, it can cause widespread death from it's radioactive properties, given the right scenario, but no, it cannot cause the devastation of a single nuclear explosion. A nuclear explosion has both tremendous explosive power and radioactive poisoning power. The materials in a nuclear reactor have only the potential for sub-atomic explosion and radioactive poisoning. I'm not trying to minimize the danger of nuclear reactors out of control, just trying to put it in perspective. If you live next to one and it has a meltdown and release of large quantities of radioactive steam and debris into the atmosphere, you can kiss your ### goodbye.
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