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    I found a photo of the trinity. It seems to be a shot of a son, a father, some cherubs and ... um... Perhaps somebody here might be able to clarify exactly what The Trinity ah, concept is...?
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    The Trinity is a mystery of three persons in one God. Human understanding has a hard time making sense of the concept. God consists of the Father,the Son and the Holy Spirit depictied as dove. The Father is in heaven and sent his only begotten son to die on a cross for our sins so we may have eternal live. The Holy spirit was sent to give us comfort and guidance during our lives on earth. We are led by the Spirit in our lives to do what the Father's will is. We are to live our lives inspired by the Holy Spirit to follow Jesus and make our lives a mirror image of his. The concept is hard to understand three persons in one God because we are human and faith plays a big part of belivers life. Spirituality plays the biggest part of the believer because the Holy Spirit allows understanding to happen when the believer is faithful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackchipjim View Post
    The Trinity is a mystery of three persons in one God. Human understanding has a hard time making sense of the concept. God consists of the Father,the Son and the Holy Spirit depictied as dove. The Father is in heaven and sent his only begotten son to die on a cross for our sins so we may have eternal live. The Holy spirit was sent to give us comfort and guidance during our lives on earth. We are led by the Spirit in our lives to do what the Father's will is. We are to live our lives inspired by the Holy Spirit to follow Jesus and make our lives a mirror image of his. The concept is hard to understand three persons in one God because we are human and faith plays a big part of belivers life. Spirituality plays the biggest part of the believer because the Holy Spirit allows understanding to happen when the believer is faithful.
    Good answer, but I think Kat is being disingenuous. He knows full well what Christians believe and has a closed mind to the Christian faith, which I know from many conversations with him. But your statement does serve well to instruct those who are open to it in one of the difficult beliefs of Christianity. It is difficult because finite minds cannot grasp infinite concepts. It is because of the God-given gift of faith that we are able to see that Jesus is God and that his teaching about the trinity is therefore true, if not fully comprehensible on a finite level.
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    Saint Patrick taught my ancestors about the Trinity by having them pick shamrocks and stare at them. If it worked on uneducated ffifth century Irishmen, I'm guessing it should work today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadroch View Post
    Saint Patrick taught my ancestors about the Trinity by having them pick shamrocks and stare at them. If it worked on uneducated ffifth century Irishmen, I'm guessing it should work today.
    It didn't really explain it, but it gave a glimmer of the idea.
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    The Trinity, also called Trimurti -

    Brahma - Vishnu - Shiva

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    The Trinity, also called Trimurti -

    Brahma - Vishnu - Shiva
    What is there explanation of the three? Are they separate entities? What do they stand for--special attributes, etc? How many gods are there in their religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    It is difficult because finite minds cannot grasp infinite concepts. It is because of the God-given gift of faith that we are .
    We humans are also comprised of body, soul, and spirit. Maybe the trinity concept is really not that difficult to grasp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tribute View Post
    We humans are also comprised of body, soul, and spirit. Maybe the trinity concept is really not that difficult to grasp.
    But no single part of a human is the complete man. Each part of the Trinity is fully God on a stand alone basis, yet there is only one God. It's the difference between how things work in the infinite realm and how they work in the finite world.
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    The math is something like this:

    A = G
    B = G
    C = G
    A + B + C = G
    And there is only one G.
    I don't think it makes sense on a finite level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    What is there explanation of the three? Are they separate entities? What do they stand for--special attributes, etc? How many gods are there in their religion?
    They are seperate, yet they are ONE. Regardless of how many gods in Hinduism, Hindus acknowledge that All and Everything is ONE.

    The three -
    Brahma - Creator
    Vishnu - Sustainer
    Shiva - Destroyer
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    The math is something like this:

    A = G
    B = G
    C = G
    A + B + C = G
    And there is only one G.
    I don't think it makes sense on a finite level.
    And YOU = G because All is ONE. zg
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    Now, this book looks like an interesting read, by... a scientist. (Sold 1.5m copies already.)
    Preview:
    "A preeminent scientist – and the world's most prominent atheist – asserts the irrationality of belief in God and the grievous harm religion has inflicted on society, from the Crusades to 9/11.

    With rigor and wit, Richard Dawkins examines God in all his forms, from the sex-obsessed tyrant of the Old Testament to the more benign (but still illogical) Celestial Watchmaker favored by some Enlightenment thinkers. He eviscerates the major arguments for religion and demonstrates the supreme improbability of a supreme being. He shows how religion fuels war, foments bigotry, and abuses children, buttressing his points with historical and contemporary evidence. The God Delusion makes a compelling case that belief in God is not just wrong, but potentially deadly. It also offers exhilarating insight into the advantages of atheism to the individual and society, not the least of which is a clearer, truer appreciation of the universe's wonders than any faith could ever muster."
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    They are seperate, yet they are ONE. Regardless of how many gods in Hinduism, Hindus acknowledge that All and Everything is ONE.

    The three -
    Brahma - Creator
    Vishnu - Sustainer
    Shiva - Destroyer
    That's a different concept than the Christian one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    Now, this book looks like an interesting read, by... a scientist. (Sold 1.5m copies already.)
    Preview:
    "A preeminent scientist – and the world's most prominent atheist – asserts the irrationality of belief in God and the grievous harm religion has inflicted on society, from the Crusades to 9/11.

    With rigor and wit, Richard Dawkins examines God in all his forms, from the sex-obsessed tyrant of the Old Testament to the more benign (but still illogical) Celestial Watchmaker favored by some Enlightenment thinkers. He eviscerates the major arguments for religion and demonstrates the supreme improbability of a supreme being. He shows how religion fuels war, foments bigotry, and abuses children, buttressing his points with historical and contemporary evidence. The God Delusion makes a compelling case that belief in God is not just wrong, but potentially deadly. It also offers exhilarating insight into the advantages of atheism to the individual and society, not the least of which is a clearer, truer appreciation of the universe's wonders than any faith could ever muster."
    I saw him in a piece by Ben Stein. Unimpressive. Hardly coherent as I recall. Did you see it?
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