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    Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe

    By Richard Falk
    UN Human Rights Envoy
    Professor Emeritus Of International Law
    and Policy At Princeton University


    RENSE | 1-2-9

    For eighteen months the entire 1.5 million people of Gaza experienced a punishing blockade imposed by Israel, and a variety of traumatizing challenges to the normalcy of daily life. A flicker of hope emerged some six months ago when an Egyptian arranged truce produced an effective ceasefire that cut Israeli casualties to zero despite the cross-border periodic firing of homemade rockets that fell harmlessly on nearby Israeli territory, and undoubtedly caused anxiety in the border town of Sderot. During the ceasefire the Hamas leadership in Gaza repeatedly offered to extend the truce, even proposing a ten-year period and claimed a receptivity to a political solution based on acceptance of Israel's 1967 borders. Israel ignored these diplomatic initiatives, and failed to carry out its side of the ceasefire agreement that involved some easing of the blockade that had been restricting the entry to Gaza of food, medicine, and fuel to a trickle.



    Israel also refused exit permits to students with foreign fellowship awards and to Gazan journalists and respected NGO representatives. At the same time, it made it increasingly difficult for journalists to enter, and I was myself expelled from Israel a couple of weeks ago when I tried to enter to carry out my UN job of monitoring respect for human rights in occupied Palestine, that is, in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as Gaza. Clearly, prior to the current crisis, Israel used its authority to prevent credible observers from giving accurate and truthful accounts of the dire humanitarian situation that had been already documented as producing severe declines in the physical condition and mental health of the Gazan population, especially noting malnutrition among children and the absence of treatment facilities for those suffering from a variety of diseases. The Israeli attacks were directed against a society already in grave condition after a blockade maintained during the prior 18 months.

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    Total horseshit. This is all Hamas' fault. They were firing rockets into towns for pete's sake. That's an act of war, and Israel should be commended for their restraint.

    What would happen if Mexico started firing missiles over our border into Texas?

    I would have given everyone 48 hours to evacuate, bombed the region to the ground, bulldozed, and built a golf course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    Total horseshit. This is all Hamas' fault. They were firing rockets into towns for pete's sake. That's an act of war, and Israel should be commended for their restraint.
    Why would you knee jerk believe the programmed media over a Princeton professor emeritus? Are you BRAINWASHED? zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Why would you knee jerk believe the programmed media over a Princeton professor emeritus? Are you BRAINWASHED? zg
    Zengrifter, you should really read the prophetic sections of the Bible. It's pretty obvious that it's -EV to **** with Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    Zengrifter, you should really read the prophetic sections of the Bible. It's pretty obvious that it's -EV to **** with Israel.
    Ahh but the secular state is not "Israel" per'se - the secular state is an
    "abomination" in the words of a great many ultra orthodox Jews who rightly
    point out that "Israel can only become a legal nation upon the return of Maschia."

    These same Jews mourn the anniversary of the secular state.

    In the meantime the secular Israel has been a travesty of apartheid and
    violent racial suppression, and ultimately genocide against the rightful co-
    occupants.

    O' Israel, how thou art fallen! zg
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    uruknet.info
    اوروكنت.إنفو

    Do we live on the same planet?

    William Bowles



    Bombs fall as an explosion is seen after an Israeli
    air strike in the northern Gaza Strip January 1, 2009.


    Jan 2, 2009

    Apparently not, well not if you listen/watch the BBC or read the corporate press, not that creating a world that doesn’t actually exist is anything new, it’s just that the actions of Fascist Israel has stretched our credulity to its limits, thus the media have been forced to stretch their lies to the limit.

    You have to ask yourselves how the hell do they get away with it?

    The answer is simple: it’s racism, pure and simple. Palestinians are less than human, thus eliminating them is as easy as eliminating vermin, and the actions of Fascist Israel are backed up with their words; Palestinians are "vermin", "cockroaches", "Palestine is finished" and so it goes.

    If anybody harboured any illusions about the settler state of Israel, surely now those illusions must shattered as surely as the shattered bodies of Palestinian children are.

    The question is, what can we do about it when we have a complicit government and a complicit media ganging up on our consciousness?

    The BBC for example, ably assisted the Israeli Fascists when it gave Tzipi Livni, Israel’s foreign minister airtime (courtesy the British taxpayer) by broadcasting an interview on 1 January, 2009 in which she said (several times) there is "no humanitarian crisis" in the Gaza Strip. No alternative view was presented to the listener.

    At the bottom of the propaganda blitz there sits one simple lie: Hamas rockets, and who broke the cease-fire, and surely, without those 'Grads’ they would have had to be invented. Now you can argue that Hamas is playing right into the hands of the Israeli Fascists by being David to Israel’s Fascist Goliath by shooting off its feeble rockets but I ask you, in the same situation what would you do? In any case, it would have made no difference, any more than it has over the past sixty years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Ahh but the secular state is not "Israel" per'se - the secular state is an
    "abomination" in the words of a great many ultra orthodox Jews who rightly
    point out that "Israel can only become a legal nation upon the return of Maschia."

    These same Jews mourn the anniversary of the secular state.

    In the meantime the secular Israel has been a travesty of apartheid and
    violent racial suppression, and ultimately genocide against the rightful co-
    occupants.

    O' Israel, how thou art fallen! zg
    I'm completely baffled as to how anyone would think this. Israel has repeatedly been attacked, without warning or provocation, and has responded almost exclusively against military targets while their opponents target civilians.

    Oh, and I don't know if you got the news, but the Messiah already came.

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    Default Sorry Zen, but Israel is entirely in its right to fight back

    Operation Cast Lead is a just campaign. Just, because in the summer of 2005 Israel destroyed all the Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip and withdrew unilaterally to the international border. Just, because from 2006 to 2008 the Palestinian entity in the Strip did not take advantage of the occupation's end to build itself and its future and instead repeatedly attacked Israel within the Green Line.

    Just, because for three solid years the State of Israel bit its lips and acted with restraint. Just, because no country in the world can accept for an extended period of time a situation in which its citizens are forsaken and its sovereignty violated. Just, because there is no chance for peace in the Middle East if the Jewish state is viewed as easy prey bleeding in the water and attracting sharks.

    Operation Cast Lead is a tragic campaign. Tragic, because it is causing the deaths of hundreds and injuring thousands. Tragic, because it is causing physical and emotional injury to innocent Palestinians, including women and children. Tragic, because like every war it creates intolerable human hardship and heartbreaking suffering.

    But the tragedy of Operation Cast Lead is unavoidable. It derives directly from the fact that the Palestinians did not take proper advantage of the historic opportunity given to them in 2005. It derives from the fact that when the Palestinians achieved self-government for the first time in their history, they misused it. It derives from the fact that the Palestinian need to destroy Israel is still stronger than their need to build Palestine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Operation Cast Lead is a just campaign. Just, because in the summer of 2005 Israel destroyed all the Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip and withdrew unilaterally to the international border. Just, because from 2006 to 2008 the Palestinian entity in the Strip did not take advantage of the occupation's end to build itself and its future and instead repeatedly attacked Israel within the Green Line.

    Just, because for three solid years the State of Israel bit its lips and acted with restraint. Just, because no country in the world can accept for an extended period of time a situation in which its citizens are forsaken and its sovereignty violated. Just, because there is no chance for peace in the Middle East if the Jewish state is viewed as easy prey bleeding in the water and attracting sharks.

    Operation Cast Lead is a tragic campaign. Tragic, because it is causing the deaths of hundreds and injuring thousands. Tragic, because it is causing physical and emotional injury to innocent Palestinians, including women and children. Tragic, because like every war it creates intolerable human hardship and heartbreaking suffering.

    But the tragedy of Operation Cast Lead is unavoidable. It derives directly from the fact that the Palestinians did not take proper advantage of the historic opportunity given to them in 2005. It derives from the fact that when the Palestinians achieved self-government for the first time in their history, they misused it. It derives from the fact that the Palestinian need to destroy Israel is still stronger than their need to build Palestine.
    If that be the case than Israel should decimate the Gaza inhabitants, until the land is soaked in blood. Just not with U.S. help in any way. Time to end the agony.

    War is the devils playground.

    Israel has no business there in the first place, they lost it thousands of years ago. But the Arabs are so stupid to have so easily given it up...they lose, and now must die.

    I do remember them happy and dancing in the streets after 911, let them die.
    Especially the Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creeping panther View Post
    If that be the case than Israel should decimate the Gaza inhabitants, until the land is soaked in blood. Just not with U.S. help in any way. Time to end the agony.

    War is the devils playground.

    Israel has no business there in the first place, they lost it thousands of years ago. But the Arabs are so stupid to have so easily given it up...they lose, and now must die.

    I do remember them happy and dancing in the streets after 911, let them die.
    Especially the Muslims.

    CP
    No, Israel never lost the land. God gave the land away because of Israel's sinfulness. But he promised to give it back later.

    There's no way Israel could have won all of these wars without divine intervention. They've often been outnumbered 10 to 1, but usually route their opponents.

    Like I said above, messing with Israel is -EV

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    Quote Originally Posted by creeping panther View Post
    I do remember them happy and dancing in the streets after 911, let them die.
    Yes, the dancing Israelis. Israel Mossad appears complicit in its participation in 9/11. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    No, Israel never lost the land. God gave the land away because of Israel's sinfulness. But he promised to give it back later.

    There's no way Israel could have won all of these wars without divine intervention. They've often been outnumbered 10 to 1, but usually route their opponents.

    Like I said above, messing with Israel is -EV
    Thank you Reverend John Hagee! zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Ahh but the secular state is not "Israel" per'se - the secular state is an
    "abomination" in the words of a great many ultra orthodox Jews who rightly
    point out that "Israel can only become a legal nation upon the return of Maschia."

    These same Jews mourn the anniversary of the secular state.
    If that's the case Zengrifter, why do most of the ultra orthodox Jews in the world live in Israel? hmmmmm.

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    Gaza committed no crime against Israel. To be sure, the opposite is quite true. The bulk of the Gaza victims, who are being annihilated with the Zionist war machine, happen to be refugees and their children and grandchildren uprooted from their towns and villages across the borders inside Israel?

    In 1948, Israel uprooted them in wave after wave of genocidal ethnic cleansing, and ever since has been trying to liquidate them by bombing their homes, killing their children, bulldozing their farms and lately by trying to starve them to death. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    No, Israel never lost the land. God gave the land away because of Israel's sinfulness. But he promised to give it back later.

    There's no way Israel could have won all of these wars without divine intervention. They've often been outnumbered 10 to 1, but usually route their opponents.

    Like I said above, messing with Israel is -EV
    That's true- look at all the people in the Bible who made war against the Jews: Babylonians, Hittites, Roman Empire, Anakites, many others.

    Any of them still around?

    I'm not convinced divine intervention is the reason Israel wins wars. More like Western intervention, but that's OK. Hamas torments those Arabs in Gaza, fires missiles, then hides and lets civilians take the return fire. Bunch of cowards who deserve to be massacred, and any Gazan Arab who supports or defends them should suffer the same fate. The smart Arabs will help eliminate Hamas and then live in peace with their neighbors.

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