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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    The big question mark is what sort of "artificially generated crisis" we can expect in January. My personal secret hope is that the G20 leaders will carry out the world's biggest ever inside job and create a fake Armageddon in order to prepare the people of the world psychologically for an entirely new age (not the 230-year old "New" world order).

    USA needs nuclear explosion to turn the world into dictatorship

    23.12.2008 Source: Pravda.Ru

    Is the United States going to put dictatorship into effect under the guise of the anti-terrorist struggle? What may trigger another major transformation in 2009? The answer is obvious: another 9/11 in the USA.

    Terrible and bloody events are in store for the world in the beginning of 2009. Most likely, the world will witness a reality show with a nuclear blast, which will be used as a reason for the US administration to change the world order again and leave the new Great Depression behind. There is every reason to believe that the Russian Federation may suffer as a result of this possible initiative too.

    MORE- http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...4-usa_change-0
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post

    USA needs nuclear explosion to turn the world into dictatorship

    23.12.2008 Source: Pravda.Ru

    Is the United States going to put dictatorship into effect under the guise of the anti-terrorist struggle? What may trigger another major transformation in 2009? The answer is obvious: another 9/11 in the USA.

    Terrible and bloody events are in store for the world in the beginning of 2009. Most likely, the world will witness a reality show with a nuclear blast, which will be used as a reason for the US administration to change the world order again and leave the new Great Depression behind. There is every reason to believe that the Russian Federation may suffer as a result of this possible initiative too.

    MORE- http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...4-usa_change-0
    Biden was talking off the top of his head. But something like an Israeli attack on Iran would surely put Obama to the test. Yes, and maybe another terrorist attack at home, which zg will surely tout as orchestrated by rogue elements within the US government, would likewise test him. But there is no need for a nuclear explosion, nor does the US wish to become dictator of the world. It did not even become dictator of the tiny country of Iraq, which it could have done and taken all its oil as a prize of war.
    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Biden was talking off the top of his head. But something like an Israeli attack on Iran would surely put Obama to the test. Yes, and maybe another terrorist attack at home, which zg will surely tout as orchestrated by rogue elements within the US government, would likewise test him. But there is no need for a nuclear explosion, nor does the US wish to become dictator of the world. It did not even become dictator of the tiny country of Iraq, which it could have done and taken all its oil as a prize of war.
    Actually, that is exactly what happened. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Actually, that is exactly what happened. zg
    Nup. It would be hard to make such a case, by any stretch of the imagination. But go ahead, try!
    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    I took the time to listen to an hour long discussion by Fulford that I found while perusing the Rense webpage. He is from far out quacksville, zg. This imaginary fight within the ranks of the Illuminati is pure fabrication. There must be money in it for a grown man to spew such ridiculous notions. As always, follow the money!!!!
    Fulford is the former bureau chief of Forbes Japan.
    He quit after higher-ups there killed a story on one of their big advertisers, an anti-virus software maker
    whom Fulford was locked and loaded on exposing for RELEASING computer viruses onto the Web.
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Fulford is the former bureau chief of Forbes Japan.
    He quit after higher-ups there killed a story on one of their big advertisers, an anti-virus software maker
    whom Fulford was locked and loaded on exposing for RELEASING computer viruses onto the Web.
    We're jumping around here from one thing to another. But on this issue, sounds good, but the devil's in the details. There may be a lot more to it than what you've said, and I'm not suggesting that you are lying, just not in on the entire story. I try not to jump to conclusions.
    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
    “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church,
    but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
    Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    We're jumping around here from one thing to another. But on this issue, sounds good, but the devil's in the details. There may be a lot more to it than what you've said, and I'm not suggesting that you are lying, just not in on the entire story. I try not to jump to conclusions.
    ... and he's a loon, but that's besides the point.
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    Default A Supranational Deep State

    "Conclusion: A Supranational Deep State

    "The complex milieu of Khashoggi, the BCCI, and the Safari Club can be characterized as a supranational deep state, whose organic links to the CIA may have helped consolidate it. It is clear however that decisions taken at this level by the Safari Club and BCCI were in no way guided by the political determinations of those elected to power in Washington. On the contrary, Prince Turki's candid remarks revealed that the Safari Club (with the alleged participation of two former CIA Directors, Bush and Helms) was expressly created to overcome restraints established by political decisions in Washington.

    "A former Turkish president and prime minister once commented that the Turkish deep state was the real state, and the public state was only a 'spare state,' not the real one. A better understanding of the American deep state is necessary, if we are to prevent it from assuming permanently the same role."

    Read the full article at: http://www.japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/4090

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodo View Post
    "Conclusion: A Supranational Deep State

    "The complex milieu of Khashoggi, the BCCI, and the Safari Club can be characterized as a supranational deep state, whose organic links to the CIA may have helped consolidate it. It is clear however that decisions taken at this level by the Safari Club and BCCI were in no way guided by the political determinations of those elected to power in Washington. On the contrary, Prince Turki's candid remarks revealed that the Safari Club (with the alleged participation of two former CIA Directors, Bush and Helms) was expressly created to overcome restraints established by political decisions in Washington.

    "A former Turkish president and prime minister once commented that the Turkish deep state was the real state, and the public state was only a 'spare state,' not the real one. A better understanding of the American deep state is necessary, if we are to prevent it from assuming permanently the same role."

    Read the full article at: http://www.japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/4090
    Nov 22 1963 was the worst day in American history. On this day the CIA and their Mob hit men achieved a coup d'etat and these Rogue Elements have controlled America ever since. Poppy Bush was there that day, in Dealey Plaza, but despite pictures showing him and his 17-y-o son Dubya in Dealey Plaza that day, both Bush criminals deny being there.

    Poppy Bush controlled the CIA for decades. He is America's worst-ever arch criminal. All his sons are carrying on the fine Bush tradition...

    Jimmy Carter knew what was going on and tried to clean out the DC rat's nest.

    The mass murder of the passengers and crew of EgyptAir 990, occurred on Halloween, October 31st, 1999. For 20 years, this date has been an important one in the war between the two factions of the American Intelligence Agencies.
    On October 31, 1979, President Jimmy Carter fired 700 CIA operatives and agents. This is referred to as the Halloween Massacre.
    Some of these operatives and agents, such as George Bush, did not take kindly to being fired. They began to conspire to defeat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 election.

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    Default The Bush Family: Designed to Destroy America

    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    When George Scherff (known to us as George Bush Senior), the new Fuhrer, took over the US in the 1980's, plans to resurrect the Third Reich and carry out Hitler's plan for genocide on an unprecedented scale began to be implemented. These plans are well known to those of us who have escaped the mind-slavery of the illuminati rulers. The Nazis wanted to reduce the world population to as low as 500 million people and enslave the majority of the survivors in order to ensure a "middle class lifestyle in harmony with nature" for the mostly "Aryan" survivors. The plans included artificially created diseases, starvation and a fake Armageddon known as Project Bluebeam. This, the new leading clique promises, has been cancelled.
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    This baloney takes on a life of its own. Have no fear, the Grays and Reptilians will save us.
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    I didn't post this rare high-altitude glimpse into the real nature of history and current events for you two doubting Thomases,it's for discerning intellects, like myself and Brutus and Katzweel.



    Deathbed confessionsphotos support claims that George H. Scherf(f), Jr., was the 41st U.S. president
    According to Otto Skorzeny, pictured is the Scherff family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother" Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man. At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherff, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip . Skorzeny was Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles. These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK ULTRA SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherff, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant.”

    What you are about to read is another step beyond research pioneered in the early 90s by author/historian Webster Tarpley based largely on deathbed “clues” provided by former Hitler bodyguard Otto Skorzeny and his box of photographs


    More: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...pol_bush19.htm




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    Ahh, the Katzo is digging deep into the verbotten zone now!
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