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    Who Sent Obama?

    Nov. 27, 2008
    FROM: oldickeastman@q.com




    Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no records -- no paper trail -- none -- this is no accident. It is being done on purpose with Media help - but to serve whom & why??

    MISSING-HIDDEN DOCUMENTS:
    • Original, vault copy of Certificate of Live Birth in the USA -- Not Released (1 version hidden in Hawaii, Original found in Kenya)
    • Certificate of Live Birth -- Released – Proven Counterfeit (www.ObamaFiles.com)
    • Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
    • Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
    • Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
    • Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released
    • Punahou School records -- Not released
    • Selective Service Registration -- Released – Proven Counterfeit
    • Occidental College records -- Not released
    • Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
    • Columbia College records -- Not released
    • Columbia thesis -- Not released
    • Harvard College records -- Not released
    • Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, Not Signed)
    • Baptism certificate -- None
    • Medical records -- Not released
    • Illinois State Senate records -- None (Locked up to prohibit public view)
    • Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost (All other Illinois state senators' records are intact)
    • Law practice client list -- Not released
    • University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None

    WHY DON'T WE SEE ONE WORD OF THIS IN ANY OF THE MEDIA?

    Love him or hate him, we all remember how the press went to great lengths to find out every move that President Bush made … finally unable to come up with anything factual, so they created it! When their accusations were proven empty, they refused to retract one word of the fraud they perpetrated on the American people.

    Dan Rather lost his job over fraudulent documents, because common people like you & me reached out and ripped CBS to pieces. They couldn't stand the loss of sponsors OR viewers!

    The same Media went to great lengths to scandalize & destroy Sarah Palin. She maintains a 91% approval rating among voters from all parties, thanks to the Internet and investigative journalists who don't work for the mainstream media.

    NOW ------- The Supreme Court has scheduled a Conference for Dec 5th about Obama's U. S. Citizenship. STILL, not a word about any of this from the Media. If it were not for the Internet and talk radio, American citizens would become the servants of a dishonest & conspiratorial Media.

    THINK ABOUT IT. IT DIDN'T USED TO BE THIS WAY! How much longer are we going to sit on our hands & say not a word?

    AND DON'T THINK THE MEDIA SIMPLY DOESN'T KNOW - THEY ARE GETTING POUNDED WITH EMAILS ABOUT IT!!!

    Obama could not get a simple security clearance with the information the government has on him ---- NOBODY COULD!

    NOW he is privy to every top secret America has!

    What is going on??? WHERE ARE THE GOOD PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY - ARE YOU OUT THERE???

    WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY????

    xxx
    Last edited by zengrifter; November 30th, 2008 at 12:53 AM.
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    THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2008

    Obama Tells Disappointed Supporters: "I Am the Change."

    Oh, brother...

    Barack Obama told his disappointed supporters who voted for him on the promise of change only to find him appoint old Clintonites and Bush cabinet members not to be upset-- "I am the change."
    McClatchy reported:

    President-elect Barack Obama essentially said Wednesday that he is the change, striving to assure Americans that he'll shake up Washington despite filling his administration with old hands from the Clinton administration and the capital's corridors of power.

    "Understand where the vision for change comes from, first and foremost," Obama said. "It comes from me. That's my job, is to provide a vision in terms of where we are going, and to make sure, then, that my team is implementing."

    Halleluiah.
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    The truth is, Obama was born in an NBC studio some 47 years ago in Montauk, NY, among other experiements of the day. He was raised by a group of NBC and NY Times insiders who pampered and brainwashed him with every goodie imaginable. He is now ready to lead our nation on to great things with the help of the media and his Presidential programming. Nothing can go wrong. Keep saying that. Nothing can go wrong. Nothing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Nothing can go wrong. Keep saying that. Nothing can go wrong. Nothing....
    Too late - already has! zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post

    Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no records -- no paper trail -- none -- this is no accident. It is being done on purpose with Media help - but to serve whom & why??

    MISSING-HIDDEN DOCUMENTS:
    • Original, vault copy of Certificate of Live Birth in the USA -- Not Released (1 version hidden in Hawaii, Original found in Kenya)
    • Certificate of Live Birth -- Released – Proven Counterfeit (www.ObamaFiles.com)
    • Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
    • Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
    • Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
    • Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released
    • Punahou School records -- Not released
    • Selective Service Registration -- Released – Proven Counterfeit
    • Occidental College records -- Not released
    • Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
    • Columbia College records -- Not released
    • Columbia thesis -- Not released
    • Harvard College records -- Not released
    • Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, Not Signed)
    • Baptism certificate -- None
    • Medical records -- Not released
    • Illinois State Senate records -- None (Locked up to prohibit public view)
    • Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost (All other Illinois state senators' records are intact)
    • Law practice client list -- Not released
    • University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None

    xxx

    is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    is this true?
    What do you think? Here's the birth cert explanation:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

    Too much more on snopes to read.

    These kinds of things are what people make them become. Did man ever walk on the moon? Was Kennedy murdered as part of a conspiracy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeD View Post
    What do you think? Here's the birth cert explanation:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

    Too much more on snopes to read.

    These kinds of things are what people make them become. Did man ever walk on the moon? Was Kennedy murdered as part of a conspiracy?
    Snopes is a cover-up tool. See phoney birth cert below. zg

    Last edited by zengrifter; December 2nd, 2008 at 02:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    is this true?
    If you hear it here, it is not to be lightly dismissed. zg
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
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    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeD View Post
    Was Kennedy murdered as part of a conspiracy?
    Well, was he? Or did that "single magic bullet' from a single lone
    gunman do it? And if so, why weren't the files released after 40-yrs? zg
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
    .....................The Zengrifter Interview (PDF) |
    The Zengrifter / James Grosjean Reputation Debate
    -----------------------------------------
    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
    "Is everything a conspiracy? No, just the important stuff." ZG

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    Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head - Again

    By Liza Porteus Viana
    Dec 1st 2008 2:44PM

    Filed Under:eBarack Obama, 2008 President, Obama Administration

    The election may be over, but not the controversy.

    Just when you thought the flap over the genuineness of Barack Obama's birth certificate was all said and done, in comes the We The People Foundation.

    The group purchases a full-page ad in The Chicago Tribune - the newspaper of the president-elect's hometown - today and Wednesday, called "Open Letter to Mr. Obama." It's described by the foundation as a "formal Petition for a Redress (Remedy) for the alleged violation of the 'natural born citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States of America."

    Click here to view the ad.

    "Mr. Obama is respectfully requested to direct the Hawaiian officials to provide access to his original birth certificate on December 5-7 by our team of forensic scientists, and to provide additional documentary evidence establishing his citizenship status prior to our Washington, D.C. press conference on December 8," the foundation says. PolitiFact has said it has no reason to doubt the authenticity of the document.
    Among other complaints, the foundation charges:

    -that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet an "unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited, computer-generated birth form created in 2007"
    -the Hawaii Dept of Health won't confirm Obama's assertion that you were born in Hawaii (the director of Hawaii's Department of Health on Oct. 31 personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.)
    -there are legal affidavits stating Obama was actually born in Kenya
    -Obama's grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya.
    -In 1965, Obama's mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and her son had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.

    MORE- http://news.aol.com/political-machin...624x1200942024
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    -----------------------------------------
    “Truth, like gold, is obtained not by growth, but by washing away all that is not gold.” — Leo Tolstoy........
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    Obama Fomenting A Constitutional Crisis:
    Constitutional Lawyer Discusses Ramifications Of Controversy

    By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
    12/01/2008

    Controversy continues to surround President-elect Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, and a case involving his birth certificate waits for its day before the U.S. Supreme Court. A constitutional lawyer said were it to be discovered that Mr. Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, it would have grave consequences for the nation.


    According to the Constitution, a president must be a natural born citizen of the U.S. Mr. Obama's critics have failed to force him legally to produce his original birth certificate, and Mr. Obama has resisted any attempt to make him do so. Currently, only Hawaii Department of Health officials have access to Mr. Obama's original records.

    Some of Mr. Obama's critics have said he was born in Kenya and have claimed he is a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia, or even a British subject.

    Edwin Vieira, a constitutional lawyer who has practiced for 30 years and holds four degrees from Harvard, said if it were to be discovered Mr. Obama were not eligible for the presidency, it would cause many problems. They would be compounded if his ineligibility were discovered after he had been in office for a period of time.

    MORE- http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=20210273
    "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on."
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2008

    Obama Tells Disappointed Supporters: "I Am the Change."

    Oh, brother...

    Barack Obama told his disappointed supporters who voted for him on the promise of change only to find him appoint old Clintonites and Bush cabinet members not to be upset-- "I am the change."
    McClatchy reported:

    President-elect Barack Obama essentially said Wednesday that he is the change, striving to assure Americans that he'll shake up Washington despite filling his administration with old hands from the Clinton administration and the capital's corridors of power.

    "Understand where the vision for change comes from, first and foremost," Obama said. "It comes from me. That's my job, is to provide a vision in terms of where we are going, and to make sure, then, that my team is implementing."

    Halleluiah.
    Obama says, "Trust me! I'm from the guv'ment. I'm here ta he'p you!"

    Hmmmm! Where have I heard that before?

    President Bush said he ran on the theme of change in 2000. In fact, he said, he's run every campaign he's ever run, on change, except in 2004 when he ran as the incumbent. Hahaha The American electorate is so astute. Well, al least we didn't elect a donkey. Although if we did, he'd probably be halfway through office before we'd get a fair hearing in a court of law. The good old US. You gotta love it!
    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
    “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church,
    but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
    Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

    “It takes a very long time to become young.” Pablo Picasso

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head - Again

    By Liza Porteus Viana
    Dec 1st 2008 2:44PM

    Filed Under:eBarack Obama, 2008 President, Obama Administration

    The election may be over, but not the controversy.

    Just when you thought the flap over the genuineness of Barack Obama's birth certificate was all said and done, in comes the We The People Foundation.

    The group purchases a full-page ad in The Chicago Tribune - the newspaper of the president-elect's hometown - today and Wednesday, called "Open Letter to Mr. Obama." It's described by the foundation as a "formal Petition for a Redress (Remedy) for the alleged violation of the 'natural born citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States of America."

    Click here to view the ad.

    "Mr. Obama is respectfully requested to direct the Hawaiian officials to provide access to his original birth certificate on December 5-7 by our team of forensic scientists, and to provide additional documentary evidence establishing his citizenship status prior to our Washington, D.C. press conference on December 8," the foundation says. PolitiFact has said it has no reason to doubt the authenticity of the document.
    Among other complaints, the foundation charges:

    -that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet an "unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited, computer-generated birth form created in 2007"
    -the Hawaii Dept of Health won't confirm Obama's assertion that you were born in Hawaii (the director of Hawaii's Department of Health on Oct. 31 personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.)
    -there are legal affidavits stating Obama was actually born in Kenya
    -Obama's grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya.
    -In 1965, Obama's mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and her son had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.

    MORE- http://news.aol.com/political-machin...624x1200942024

    from print ad-

    Certified copies of your reissued and sealed birth certificates in the
    names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack
    Dunham and Barry Dunham.
    are these supposed to be ficticious names used by mr obama?

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    Certification of live birth is not a birth certificate. Listen to this-


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH7r...7/barrydunham/
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    “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church,
    but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    from print ad-


    are these supposed to be ficticious names used by mr obama?
    http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_9442...ein_Obama.html

    http://swampbubbles.com/20081104/ele...arry-soetoro-a

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1033451AAOyvOF
    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
    “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church,
    but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
    Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

    “It takes a very long time to become young.” Pablo Picasso

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