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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    "Lest ye become as a child, ye shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven" -- Issa
    When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up my childish ways. 1 Corinthians 13:11
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up my childish ways. 1 Corinthians 13:11
    I forget, is Corinthians Old or New Testament? I was quoting Yeshua. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katweezel View Post
    These days, I just love The Teachings of Abraham. Absolutely inspiring. Very truthful. Simple. No old belief data. Cutting edge. Namaste
    Teachings of Abraham = "cutting edge"? Do tell. Namaskar. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    ,,,dissolved in divine love to merge with an an ocean of love and be uplifted into worlds beyond karma or become one with God.
    Only God can become One with God because there Is ONLY God. zg(od)

    It is Adi Da Samraj's imaginative triumph to have conveyed the illusions created by discrepant
    points of view and the emotionally liberating effect when they aesthetically unite . . .


    There Is Only Real God *
    By Avatar Adi Da Samraj

    ----

    The Apparently individual (or Separate) self Is Not Self-Existing.

    The Apparently individual (or Separate) self Is Not Immortal.

    The Apparently individual (or Separate) self Is Not a "spark" (or an
    Eternal fraction) Of Self-Radiant Divinity, and Somehow Complete (or
    Whole) In itself.

    Only Real God 1 —The Inherently egoless Divine Person—Is Self-
    Existing, Immortal, Eternal, Non-Separate, Indivisible, Complete,
    Whole, and Self-Radiant.

    The Apparently individual (or Separate) self Is Not inwardly (or in
    and of itself) Perfect, a "soul" (or A Perfect individual
    Consciousness), and Somehow Full Of Divine Qualities (Such As
    Inherent Happiness, Unconditional Love, Infinite Bliss, and Boundless
    Energy).

    Only Real God—The Inherently egoless Divine Person—Is Perfect
    Consciousness (Non-Separate, Indivisible, Full Of, or Characterized
    By, The Qualities Of Inherent Happiness, Unconditional Love, Infinite
    Bliss, and Boundless Energy).

    The Truth (That Sets The Heart Free) Is Not That the Apparently
    individual (or Separate) self (or ego-"l" 2 ) Is itself Immortal and
    Divine, or That some fraction or dimension of the Apparently
    individual (or Separate) self Is Immortal and Divine—but The
    Truth
    (That Sets The Heart Free) Is That There Is Only Real God (The Real,
    The Truth, or That Which Is Always Already The Case).

    The Apparently individual (or Separate) self arises conditionally,
    and Yet it Always Already Inheres In Real God.

    The Apparently individual (or Separate) self is the (Total, Complex)
    conditional body-mind (or Apparent psycho-physical personality).

    The (Total, Complex) Apparently individual (or Separate) self is
    arising in three Primary (and Coincident) forms—the gross (or the
    physical), the subtle (or the etheric, the mental, and the deep
    psychic), and the causal (or the Root-essence of the conditional
    self). 3

    The (Total, Complex) Apparently individual (or Separate) self is
    arising As An Apparent Modification (and Contraction) Of The Eternal
    Self-Radiance (or Inherent Spirit-"Brightness" 4 ) Of Real God and As
    An Apparent Contraction Of The Transcendental (or Self-Existing)
    Consciousness That Is Real God.

    The individual (or Separate) self (As Well As every other Apparent
    being and every other Apparent form or process Manifested Within The
    Cosmic Mandala 5 ) arises conditionally—but, Nevertheless, Always
    Already Inhering In Real God. Because Of This, no individual being or
    Apparent form is Ever Finally destroyed (or ended) In This Drama Of
    worlds. Every Apparent (or conditional) one and every Apparent (or
    conditional) thing is a process, a continuum of changes, that
    Persists Even Through and Beyond dissolution or death—Because
    Separation From The Transcendental (or Eternal), and Inherently
    Spiritual, and Inherently egoless, and Self-Evidently Divine
    Condition That Is Real God Is Not Possible.

    However, mere continuation Is Not Happiness Itself (or The Inherent
    Realization Of Love-Bliss). Merely To Persist As an Apparently
    Separate form or process, Unconsciously Inhering In The Eternal
    (Real) God, Is Only To Contemplate limitation. The self-limited
    personality, Confined To the Apparent display of causes and effects,
    Is Stress-Bound To Seek Fulfillment and Release, Either By Exclusive
    Involvement In The Illusions Of inwardness (As If the conditional
    self, Dissociated From body and mind, Were itself The Immortal Love-
    Bliss) Or By Extroverted and Apparently Inclusive Indulgence Of body
    and mind In The Illusions Of conditional experience and conditional
    knowledge (As If The Mandala Of The conditionally Manifested Cosmos
    Were, Itself, The Immortal Love-Bliss).

    The Immortal (and Self-Evidently Divine) Love-Bliss Is Realized
    Neither By Exclusive Identification With the inward self-position Nor
    By Apparently Inclusive Immersion In the conditional (or phenomenal)
    realms. To Realize The Self-Evidently Divine Self-Condition (and
    Source-Condition) That Is Love-Bliss Is Necessarily A Matter Of
    Transcending the (Entirely self-imposed, or self-Presumed) limits On
    Love-Bliss (Itself), To The Degree (Most Ultimately) Of Inherent, and
    Inherently Most Perfect, and Inherently egoless (and Inherently Most
    Perfectly egoless) Identification With Love-Bliss (Itself).

    Therefore, The Only-By-Me Revealed and Given Way Of The Heart (or Way
    Of Adidam) Is Never A Matter Of Identification With the subjective or
    the objective limitations of the conditional self-position (or ego-
    "l"). In The Right, True, Full, and Fully Devotional Practice Of The
    Only-By-Me Revealed and Given Way Of The Heart (or Way Of Adidam),
    Both The subjective and The objective Illusions Created By the self-
    Contraction Are Transcended—and This Through The Process Of Real
    (and
    Most Fundamental) self-Understanding, Which (By Means Of My
    Avatarically 7 Self-Transmitted Divine Grace) Becomes Ecstasy (or ego-
    Transcendence) In Real God (or ego-Transcending Communion With The
    One In Whom the conditional self and the conditional worlds Are
    arising, or Appearing To arise, As Apparent Modifications Of Itself),
    and Which (Most Ultimately, By Means Of My Avatarically Self-
    Transmitted Divine Grace) Realizes Divine Enstasy (or Awakening To
    Inherent, and Inherently Most Perfect, Identification With My Self-
    Evidently Divine, or Perfectly Subjective, Self-Condition, In Which
    every conditional, or phenomenal, appearance, including the body-mind-
    self, Always Already Inheres).

    Real God Is Not The Creator.
    Real God Is The Liberator.
    Real God Is Not The Way In.
    Real God Is The Way Out.
    The Way Of Real God
    Is Not The Way Of
    self-Seeking,
    self-Increase, and
    self-Success.
    The Way Of Real God
    Is The Way Of self-Sacrifice
    (or ego-Transcendence).

    Therefore, The Only-By-Me Revealed and Given Way Of The Heart (or Way
    Of Adidam) Is The Great Process Of Devotional self-Sacrifice In Real
    God (By Means Of ego-Surrendering, ego-Forgetting, and, Always More
    and More, ego-Transcending Feeling-Contemplation 8 Of My Real-God-
    Revealing Avatarically Born Bodily Human Divine Form, My Avatarically
    Self-Revealed Spiritual, and Always Divinely Blessing, Divine
    Presence, and My Avatarically Self-Revealed, and Very, and
    Transcendental, and Perfectly Subjective, and Inherently Spiritual,
    and Inherently egoless, and Inherently Perfect, and Self-Evidently
    Divine State). And, By Means Of This Great Process, the Total psycho-
    physical self Of My Devotee Is Surrendered To The Progressive Ordeal
    Of (Most Ultimately, Inherent, and Inherently Most Perfect) Divine
    Self-Realization.

    The Only-By-Me Revealed and Given Way Of The Heart (or Way Of Adidam)
    Is The Great Process Of Transcending the objective (or conditionally
    externalized) point of view and the conditionally subjective (or
    conditionally internalized) point of view, By Means Of My
    Avatarically Self-Transmitted Divine Grace, Through Progressively ego-
    Surrendering, ego-Forgetting, and ego-Transcending Feeling-
    Contemplation Of (and Feeling-ldentification With) My Real-God-
    Revealing Avatarically-Born Bodily (Human) Divine Form, My
    Avatarically Self-Revealed Spiritual (and Always Divinely Blessing)
    Divine Presence, and My Avatarically Self-Revealed (and Very, and
    Transcendental, and Perfectly Subjective, and Inherently Spiritual,
    and Inherently egoless, and Inherently Perfect, and Self-Evidently
    Divine) State—Such That, Most Ultimately (By Means Of My
    Avatarically
    Self-Transmitted Divine Grace), the (Apparent) conditional body-mind
    and the (Apparent) conditional world Are "Viewed" From (and Divinely
    Self-Recognized In and As) The (Inherently Perfect) Divine Subject-
    Position (or The Self-Existing and Self-Radiant Self-State, or Self-
    Condition, Of Self-Evidently Divine Being, Itself). And The Only-By-
    Me Revealed and Given Way Of The Heart (or Way Of Adidam) Necessarily
    Proceeds By Stages Of Revelation, Corresponding To The First Six
    Stages Of Life 9 (While Perhaps, By Means Of My Avatarically Self-
    Transmitted Divine Grace, Effectively Bypassing Some), Until The
    Realization and The Demonstration Of The Only-By-Me Revealed and
    Given Seventh Stage Of Life.

    The Heart (Itself) Was Never "Created"—Nor Is There Ever
    any "creature" There. Therefore, The Way That Practices and (At Last)
    Most Perfectly Realizes and Is The Heart (Itself) Is The
    (Necessarily) Esoteric Way That Transcends The Illusions Of "Creator"
    and "Creation"—By Transcending the ego-"I".

    The One and Only By-Me-Revealed and By-Me-Given Way Of The Heart (or
    Way Of Adidam) Is The Esoteric True Way (or True World-Religion) That
    (In The Truly Counter-egoic, and More and More Profoundly ego-
    Transcending, Manner) Practices and Realizes and (At Last, Most
    Perfectly) Is The Heart Itself Therefore, Even From Its Beginnings,
    The Only-By-Me Revealed and Given Way Of The Heart (or Way Of Adidam)
    Is Entirely Free Of ego-Based, ego-Serving, ego-Affirming, ego-
    Developing, and merely conventionally (or exoterically) religious
    (or "subject-object"-Based) views and presumptions.

    The Divine Heart Is One and Only. Therefore, The One and Only By-Me-
    Revealed and By-Me-Given Esoteric Way Of The Heart (or Way Of Adidam)
    Is, Even From Its Beginnings, The Always and Immediately ego-
    Transcending Way Of One—and Not The Way Of "self' and "Other" (or
    Of
    Any "Two" At All).



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    Notes

    * Avatar Adi Da uses a unique convention of capitalization here (and
    in some of His other Writings as well), capitalizing almost every
    word. This form of capitalization is (in and of itself) a Teaching
    device, by which Avatar Adi Da Communicates to the reader that
    everything that exists arises as a modification of the Divine
    Reality, and it is only our own commitment to the point of view of
    the ego that prevents us from living on the basis of this Truth.

    1. The term "Real God" indicates the True Source of all conditions,
    the True and Spiritual Divine Person, rather than any egoic (and,
    thus, false, or limited) presumptions about God.

    2. The ego-"I" is the fundamental activity of self-contraction, or
    the presumption of separate and separative existence.

    3. Avatar Adi Da uses the word "gross" to mean "made up of material
    (or physical) elements". The gross (or physical) dimension is
    therefore associated with the physical body, and also with experience
    in the waking state.

    The subtle is the dimension of energy and mind, associated with
    experience in the dreaming state. The word "subtle" indicates that
    this dimension is refined—in relation to the "gross" physical
    dimension.

    The etheric is the dimension of life-energy, which functions through
    the human nervous system. Our bodies are surrounded and infused by
    this personal life-energy, which we feel as the play of emotions and
    life-force in the body.

    The causal dimension is senior to and pervades both the gross and the
    subtle dimensions. It is the root of attention, or the essence of the
    separate and separative ego-"I". The causal dimension is associated
    with the right side of the heart, specifically with the sinoatrial
    node, or "pacemaker" (the psycho-physical source of the heartbeat).
    Its corresponding state of consciousness is the formless awareness of
    deep sleep.

    4. By the word "Bright" (and its variations, such as "Brightness"),
    Avatar Adi Da refers to the eternally, infinitely, and inherently
    Self-Radiant Divine, Indivisible and Indestructible Light Itself.

    5. The Sanskrit word mandala (literally, circle) is commonly used in
    the esoteric Spiritual traditions to describe the hierarchical levels
    of cosmic existence "Mandala" also denotes an artistic rendering of
    interior visions of the cosmos. Avatar Adi Da uses the
    phrase "Mandala of the Cosmos" (or "Cosmic Mandala") as a reference
    to the totality of the conditional cosmos.

    6. Avatar Adi Da uses the phrase "Most Ultimate(ly) or "Most Perfect
    (ly)" in the sense of "Absolutely Ultimate(ly)" or "Absolutely Perfect
    (ly)", indicating a reference to the Divinely Enlightened stage of
    life.

    7. The term "Avataric" or "Avatarically" indicates that Avatar Adi
    Da's human Incarnation is not merely the life of an ordinary man, but
    the utterly Divine "Descent" of Real God in human Form.

    8. Avatar Adi Da's term for the essential devotional and meditative
    practice that all practitioners of the Way of Adidam engage at all
    times in relationship to Him. Feeling-Contemplation of Adi Da Samraj
    is Awakened by His Grace—through Darshan (or feeling-sighting) of
    His
    Divine Form, Presence, and State. It is then to be practiced under
    all conditions, and as the basis and epitome of all other practices
    in the Way of Adidam.

    9. The entire Spiritual Process culminating in Divine Enlightenment
    has been exactly "mapped" by Avatar Adi Da, Who Describes It in terms
    of seven stages of life. In the total (or full and complete) practice
    of the Way of Adidam, the seven stages of life are, from first to
    last, a Process in Consciousness, Revealing (ultimately) that you are
    Consciousness, and not merely the body-mind.

    The first three (or foundation) stages of life constitute the
    ordinary course of human adaptation—bodily, emotional, and mental
    growth. The fourth and fifth (or advanced) stages of life are
    charactenzed by the Awakening to Spirit, or the Spiritualizing of the
    body-mind.

    In the sixth and seventh (or ultimate) stages of life Consciousness
    Itself is directly Realized, beyond identification with the body-
    mind. In the sixth stage of life, the Realizer Identifies with
    Consciousness (in profound states of meditation) by excluding all
    awareness of phenomena. Avatar Adi Da has Revealed that this was the
    highest form of Realization known in the religious and Spiritual
    traditions previous to His Appearance. But this Realization is
    incomplete. Even the necessity to turn away from the world in order
    to fully Enjoy Consciousness represents a contraction, a refusal of
    Reality in its totality. The seventh stage of life (or the
    Realization of "Open Eyes"), which is Revealed and Given only by
    Avatar Adi Da, transcends this last limit. No exclusion is necessary,
    because the world is Realized to be a mere modification of
    Consciousness, not separate (or "different") from Consciousness at
    all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Only God can become One with God because there Is ONLY God. zg(od)
    Not true. I am not "one" with you on this. Becoming one with someone does not necessarily imply identity, merely agreement. To be "at one" or to "atone" means the same, to be in agreement with another, often used with respect to the reconciliation of humans with God. I am one with God when I am in total agreement with Him. Your statement is not one with God's truth, it is at "odds" with God and His Truth.

    There is only One God. However, there is also quite a bit more than God. You yourself are an example of something that is not God. Neither are you one with God. If I were God, which I am not, I would temporaily turn you into a toad, to prove my point. However, this example is not available to me. Perhaps the one true God will deem it in His mercy to demonstrate this truth. I am sure He loves you more wildly than you can imagine. You ought to show a little creaturely defernce to Him. He is your best friend, bar none, yet you persist in ignoring His separate existence as if you yourself were the "end all" of creation. Pride comes before the fall. Come down, now, before you hurt yourself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    There is only One God. However, there is also quite a bit more than God. You yourself are an example of something that is not God. Neither are you one with God. If I were God, which I am not, I would temporaily turn you into a toad, to prove my point. However, this example is not available to me. Perhaps the one true God will deem it in His mercy to demonstrate this truth. I am sure He loves you more wildly than you can imagine. You ought to show a little creaturely defernce to Him. He is your best friend, bar none, yet you persist in ignoring His separate existence as if you yourself were the "end all" of creation. Pride comes before the fall. Come down, now, before you hurt yourself!
    You are locked into a belief-system born of chronic contraction and rested in a mythologized illusion of separateness wherein
    you pine for the fantasy of a future eternal life as an eternal 'other' in a future 'other' place. None of that is Truth or Reality.

    Issa said: "The Kingdom fo God is Within." (ie, NOT SEPARATE FROM YOURSELF) zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    You are locked into a belief-system born of chronic contraction and rested in a mythologized illusion of separateness wherein
    you pine for the fantasy of a future eternal life as an eternal 'other' in a future 'other' place. None of that is Truth or Reality.

    Issa said: "The Kingdom fo God is Within." (ie, NOT SEPARATE FROM YOURSELF) zg
    You have part of it right (your last sentence). All the rest is your own illusion and fantasy. Your denial of a separate God is neither based on experience nor revelation. It is made out of whole cloth. If I really were God, as you seem to think everyone is, I would turn you into a toad to bring you to your senses. Alas! I am merely Aslan, a decendant of Adam so to speak. A mere creature, though not in awe of your contradictory teaching. As God, you sure went to a lot of trouble to hide it from yourself. Lighten up, zg, and enjoy the freedom of being a creature, wildly beloved by the one true God, who is separate and above your wildest imagining. You will never know Him fully, but will grow in His Love for eternity if you so choose. He cannot be known fully--the finite does not comprehend the infinite and never will. But you can commune with Him and the relationship can grow without end. It's a whole lot better prospect than the one you offer--a God that trails off into oblivion. Yekkk! A GOd that is me---double yekkk!!!! What a hateful universe you paint when you stop and think about it--stuck with me alone for all eternity!! Isn't that the definition of hell? Me and me alone? I am God and God is Me----shudder!!!!!!!! If I am to be consciousness for all eternity, I want to be conscious of something other than me--or you, for that matter. I rather like being a creature, totally dependent on my God. In fact, I have a need to recognize my creatureliness that cannot be satisfied by any other relationship, thought, imagining or condition. It is who I am. Not surrendering to who you are is a prescription for sorrow and misery. You are not God, zg, and saying so doesn't make it so. You are the emperor with no clothes.... They have eyes, but do not see.

    Tower of stone
    Demolition to begin
    Quickly
    Without warning
    Perhaps
    Dust and fragments
    To become a thing
    New and pleasing
    To the Eye
    Hope
    Else
    Truly a sad and mournful waste
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    If I am to be consciousness for all eternity, I want to be conscious of something other than me--or you, for that matter. I rather like being a creature, totally dependent on my God.
    Classic! Your dependence on an eternally SEPARATE God is only that -
    a dependence - not unlike a drug dependence - a chronic fixation of attention.
    Your misidentification with your own (illusionary) mind. zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Classic! Your dependence on an eternally SEPARATE God is only that -
    a dependence - not unlike a drug dependence - a chronic fixation of attention.
    Your misidentification with your own (illusionary) mind. zg
    Let the demolition begin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Let the demolition begin.
    Yes - the demolition of the illusionary separate egoic self! zg
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Yes - the demolition of the illusionary separate egoic self! zg
    Whatever you think you are, the process has begun.
    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Whatever you think you are, the process has begun.
    Yes, a long time ago, before my first acid trip even!
    But also it has begun for YOU, thanks in part to moi and the ZEN ZONE. zg

    The only-by-Me Revealed and Given "Radical" (or Always "At-the-Root") Reality-Way of Adidam Ruchiradam Is the Perfectly Subjective Zero-Point Way of Infinite Fullness and Perfect Freedom.

    The only-by-Me Revealed and Given "Radical" (or Always "At-the-Root") Reality-Way of Adidam Ruchiradam Is the Searchless Divine Avataric Way--the Intrinsically egoless Seventh Way of always whole-bodily-demonstrated devotion to Me As I Divinely Avatarically Appear and As I Always Already Am.

    I Am The Not-"Other"--now and forever here At all-and-All.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Yes, a long time ago, before my first acid trip even!
    But also it has begun for YOU, thanks in part to moi and the ZEN ZONE. zg

    The only-by-Me Revealed and Given "Radical" (or Always "At-the-Root") Reality-Way of Adidam Ruchiradam Is the Perfectly Subjective Zero-Point Way of Infinite Fullness and Perfect Freedom.

    The only-by-Me Revealed and Given "Radical" (or Always "At-the-Root") Reality-Way of Adidam Ruchiradam Is the Searchless Divine Avataric Way--the Intrinsically egoless Seventh Way of always whole-bodily-demonstrated devotion to Me As I Divinely Avatarically Appear and As I Always Already Am.

    I Am The Not-"Other"--now and forever here At all-and-All.
    Non realmente, il mio amico. It has challenged, clarified and strengthened me in my former beliefs.
    Aslan 11/1/90 - 6/15/10 Stormy 1/22/95 -8/23/10
    “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church,
    but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
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    Non realmente, il mio amico. It has challenged, clarified and strengthened me in my former beliefs.
    Yes, the EGO is like that - it recoils from infinity and its dissolution.

    But even from your last comment it is clear that the damn has cracked...

    ...and soon someone will yell ... T I M B E R ! ! zg
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    Teachings of Abraham = "cutting edge"? Do tell. Namaskar. zg
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