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    Looniest Of All 911 Conspiracy Theories

    By Gerard Holmgren
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    Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one, often several wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. 'The CIA killed Hendrix', 'The Pope had John Lennon murdered', 'Hitler was half Werewolf', 'Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone' etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it.

    So its hardly surprising that the events of September 11th, 2001 have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is - sadly - a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis.

    One of the wilder stories circulating about September 11th - and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs - is that it was carried out by nineteen fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they 'hate our freedoms.'

    Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell.

    Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.

    These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organising them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand down of the US air-force, the insider trading on airline stocks - linked to the CIA - the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about nineteen Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer four planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly two hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do.

    ...continued here - http://www.rense.com/general69/statee.htm
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    That one takes the cake! zg

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    That one takes the cake! zg
    LOLOL. Do you even bother to screen your own posts before posting them? This is, bar none, the most rediculous thing you have ever posted. IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by supercoolmancool View Post
    This is, bar none, the most rediculous thing you have ever posted. IMHO
    Why thank you, SCMC. That is definitley my favorite bizarre 9/11 conspiracy theory. It was originally posted for JoeP. zg

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    VINTAGE Zengrifter! Rivals Andy Warhol! Ebert and Aslan give this one two thumbs up!

    Conspiracy Theory:

    The attack on the World Trade Center (WTC) was carried out by nineteen fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they 'hate our freedoms.'

    Let's get some things straight first. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, not Osama bin Laden, is credited with masterminding the attack on the WTC. Hate our freedoms? I'm not sure about that--they apparently hated Western culture, but I don't have the specifics on their motivations, so I'd be happy to leave that conjecture off the statement of theory.

    Let's say, "The attack on the World Trade Center was masterminded by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and carried out by nineteen fanatical Arab hijackers."
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    Default Evidence #1

    Evidence #1:

    Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was arrested and confessed to masteminding the attack on the WTC. Read about it on CBS news at this URL: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in575790.shtml
    Last edited by aslan; April 13th, 2008 at 08:25 PM.
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    Default Evidence #2

    Evidence #2:

    The suspects were identified within 72 hours because few made any attempt to disguise their names on flight and credit card records. Read all about it in Wikapedia at this URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organiz...,_2001_attacks

    The Wikapedia report also gives links in cases where it appears that stolen identities had been used by some of the terrorists, thereby resulting in some correction to the original list of identities of the 19 hijackers. The fact that in some cases identities had been stolen flies in the face of those who say the whole thing was orchestrated by the US government. Being able to quickly discover the identities of the hijackers appeared a little too easy, but now we see that, like most things, it is a lot more complicated than first blush. It now has more the ring of truth.
    Last edited by aslan; April 13th, 2008 at 08:26 PM.
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    Default Evidence #3

    Evidence #3:

    There were eyewitness reports from the hijacked airplanes.

    American Airlines Flight 11

    Two flight attendants called the American Airlines reservation desk during the hijacking. Betty Ong reported that "the four hijackers had come from first-class seats: 2A, 2B, 9A, and 9B."[1] Flight attendant Amy Sweeney called a flight services manager at Logan Airport and described them as Middle Eastern. She gave the staff the seat numbers and they pulled up the ticket and credit card info of the hijackers, identifying Mohamed Atta al-Sayed. `

    Mohamed Atta was heard speaking over the air traffic control system, broadcasting messages he intended for the passengers.
    “We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you'll be okay. We are returning to the airport, nobody move. Everything will be okay. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.

    Nobody move please. We are going back to the airport, don't try to make any stupid moves.

    United Airlines Flight 175

    A United mechanic was called by a flight attendant who stated the crew had been murdered and the plane hijacked.

    American Airlines Flight 77

    Two hijackers, Hani Hanjour and Majed Moqed were identified by clerks as having bought single, first-class tickets for Flight 77 from Advance Travel Service in Totowa, NJ with $1,842.25 in cash.[1] Renee May, a flight attendant on Flight 77, used a cell phone to call her mother in Las Vegas. She said her flight was being hijacked by six individuals who had moved them to the rear of the plane.[5] Passenger Barbara Olson called her husband, Ted Olson, the solicitor general of the United States, stating the flight had been hijacked and the hijackers had knives and box cutters.[6] Two of the passengers had been on the FBI's terrorist-alert list: Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi.

    Forensic remains of the five hijackers were found at the Pentagon, along with remains of the victims.

    United Airlines Flight 93

    Jeremy Glick stated that the hijackers were Arabic-looking, wearing red headbands, carrying knives.

    Hijacker Ziad Jarrah also mistakenly broadcast messages intended for passengers over the air traffic control system:
    “ Keep remaining sitting. We have a bomb on board.

    Uh, this is the captain. Would like you all to remain seated. There is a bomb aboard and are going back to the airport, and to have our demands [unintelligible]. Please remain quiet.


    Jarrah is also heard on the cockpit voice recorder. Forensic remains of all four hijackers were found at the crash site.

    The above facts were taken verbatim from Wikapedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organiz...,_2001_attacks
    Last edited by aslan; April 13th, 2008 at 08:26 PM.
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    Default Evidence #4

    Evidence #4:

    Some of the hijackers were identified by DNA evidence at the crash sites.

    In addition to identification of victims, the remains of all the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77 were found at the Pentagon and their DNA forensically identified.[6] The remains of all the hijackers of United Airlines Flight 93 were found at the crash site near Shanksville and their DNA was forensically identified.[6] Remains of three of the hijackers were found and identified through DNA testing at the Ground Zero.

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Hijackers
    Last edited by aslan; April 13th, 2008 at 08:27 PM.
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    Default Evidence #5

    Evidence #5:

    Confusion about the identity of certain of th hijackers has been satisfactorily cleared up.

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Hijackers

    [Excerpted]
    In the aftermath of the attacks, there was confusion about names on the list issued by the FBI, as well as lists obtained by the Boston Globe and other media outlets.

    Waleed al-Shehri

    There was confusion regarding one name on the list -- Waleed Alshehri. In a case of mistaken identity, a different Waleed Alshehri (other than the real hijacker) was initially identified. This Waleed Alshehri came to Daytona Beach, Florida in 1996, took aviation lessons at Embry-Riddle Aeronautics University,[4] and was employed as a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines. He was living in Morocco at the time of the 9/11 attacks.

    Abdul al-Omari

    There was also confusion regarding Abdul al-Omari. Someone with a similar name in south Florida, Abdulrahman S. Alomari, took flight lessons at Flight Safety International. He was identified early and confused with the hijacker.[11] Abdulaziz Alomari, a 28-year old in Riyadh, said his passport was stolen while he lived in Denver in 1995, and thought his identity was stolen by one of the hijackers.
    Saeed al-Ghamdi

    Said Hussein al-Ghamdi, a Saudi pilot living in Tunis, was also mistaken, with CNN broadcasting his picture instead of that of Flight 93 hijacker, Saeed al-Ghamdi.
    Marwan al-Shehhi

    The list obtained by the Boston Globe on September 12 included the name Marwan Alshehri. (name really is Marwan al-Shehhi) [12]
    Why the confusion?

    * One source of confusion is the fact that hijackers often varied the spelling of their names when renting rooms, banking, and other activities. For example, Hani Hanjour, whose full name is "Hani Saleh Hanjour", also used "Hani Hanjoor", "Hani Saleh", "Hany Saleh", and "Hami Hanjoor".[13]

    * Also, some of the names, particularly "al-Ghamdi" and "al-Shehri" are extremely common names in Saudi Arabia, as Smith is common in the United States.[14]

    Arab News explained how names and photographs of Saudi pilots trained in the U.S. were published and mistaken for the hijackers.

    “In the rush to reveal information, these were published without due authentication. According to a US source, the FBI committed some errors in its inquiries at the beginning of the investigation. First, it asked about pilots or trainees at airlines whose names resembled those of the hijackers. This was on the presumption that the hijackers should be pilots or experts in aviation. This led to the confusion about the names of pilots Saeed Al-Ghamdi who turned up in Tunis, Abdul Rahman Al-Amri who was in Jeddah and Waleed A. Al-Shehri, who showed up in Rabat. These three men have been cleared of any association with the alleged hijackers.
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    Default Evidence #6

    Evidence #6:

    There is video evidence both by some of the hijackers and bin Laden. These include "last Will and Testaments" and bin Laden naming some of the conspirators.

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Hijackers
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    Default Evidence #7

    Evidence #7:

    The hijackers names appear on the flight manifests for all four flights.

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Hijackers
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    Default Evidence #8

    Evidence #8:

    A key piece of evidence that ties the hijackers to Al Qaeda were money transfers before the attacks, from the hijackers to a Bin Laden associate in the United Arab Emirates. Sheikh Saeed, also known as Mustafa Mohamed Ahmad, was a financial manager for Bin Laden when he was in Sudan, and remained a trusted associate.

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Hijacke
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    Default Evidence #9

    Evidence #9:

    Islamic militants celebrate the actions of the 19 hijackers on 9/11.

    A group that calls itself al Muhajiroun and claims to be the eyes and ears of militant Islam, held a 9/11 commemoration in London in which it honored not those who were murdered, but those who killed them. The speaker at the rally said: "They revived the obligation of jihad worldwide. 19 Brave warriors, mujahedeen who made the ultimate sacrifice."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in572811.shtml
    Last edited by aslan; April 13th, 2008 at 08:29 PM.
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    And then on top of all that fine 'evidence' that you present, the jetliners
    each brought a tower down. Three towers total, actually. Yes? zg
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