http://www.zenzoneforum.com/ Discuss economic issues. en Fri, 24 May 2013 19:25:15 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.zenzoneforum.com/images/misc/rss.png http://www.zenzoneforum.com/ http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25210-Keiser-Report-Down-is-New-Up-Up-is-New-Down-VIDEO?goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 06:20:33 GMT In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert examine how it’s impossible to determine whether the markets are soaring, as longstanding data patterns have broken down. They discuss feeding the ducks while they’re quacking, and how Bitcoin vigilantes are fighting the Fed. In the... In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert examine how it’s impossible to determine whether the markets are soaring, as longstanding data patterns have broken down. They discuss feeding the ducks while they’re quacking, and how Bitcoin vigilantes are fighting the Fed. In the second half, Max talks to Sandeep Jaitly of FeketeResearch.com about the imminent extinction of the price of gold as well as the permanent backwardation in both gold and silver markets.

]]> Economics zengrifter http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25210-Keiser-Report-Down-is-New-Up-Up-is-New-Down-VIDEO http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25144-Counterfeit-Euro-Coins-Problem?goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 12:56:24 GMT *WORLD NEWS TOMORROW* – BRUXELLES -During the last month the Belgian Federal police has confiscated several tons of counterfeit Euro Coins that were shipped from China via the Belgian territory into the European Union. There seems to been a huge increase since 2012 in the production and sales of... WORLD NEWS TOMORROW – BRUXELLES -During the last month the Belgian Federal police has confiscated several tons of counterfeit Euro Coins that were shipped from China via the Belgian territory into the European Union. There seems to been a huge increase since 2012 in the production and sales of counterfeited Euro Coins.


The counterfeit euro coins are smuggled into Belgium with description of old metal transports and it seems that there might have been several hundred tons of counterfeit euro coins already in the markets according to a radio interview confirmed by Ine Van Wymersch and that the Belgian federal police is investigating the matter at present.


Its is unclear as to how many tons of counterfeit Euro coins might have been smuggled into the Belgian territory. Seeing that Belgium is a very small country with a population of only 6 million , only a few tons of counterfeit Euro coins could hugely effect the true monetary value of Belgium.


It seems according to some sources that the Zaventern Airport has been used as a possible central point for these smugglers where several tons of counterfeit Euro coins were found. During 2011 the Deutsch Bundesbank were conned with a 6 million Euro exchange when they discovered that that 29 tons of euro coins were presented from China.


The question is why did the Euro zone only wake up now since it would be by nature common that counterfeit money gets produced and why did the federal authorities not pic this up when the Euro came into existence ? Considering that the European Union consist of 25 countries, its unimaginable of how many counterfeit Euro coins were shipped into the European Union since the year 2000.


Global security and threat expert Baron Baretzky said that this threat could be much larger than what is presently known and the smoking gun should have been picked up long time ago by Federal Police and Interpol. The question then remains , is there more to this than just counterfeit coins and is the threat perhaps greater than visible to our European financial institutions ?

SOURCE: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/19/252422/
Exclusive for World News Tomorrow by James Lee. ]]> Economics Katweezel http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25144-Counterfeit-Euro-Coins-Problem http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25109-Paul-Roberts-Gangster-America?goto=newpost Tue, 14 May 2013 12:10:45 GMT RealTime Paul Craig Roberts: Gangster State America

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by Paul Craig Roberts | May 13, 2013


There are many signs of gangster state America. One is the collusion between federal authorities and banksters in a criminal conspiracy to rig the markets for gold and silver.


My explanation that the sudden appearance of an unprecedented 400 ton short sale of gold on the COMEX in April was a manipulation designed to protect the dollar from the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing policy has found acceptance among gold investors and hedge fund managers.


The sale was a naked short. The seller had no gold to sell. COMEX reported having gold only equal to about half of the short sale in its vaults, and not all of that was available for delivery. No one but the Federal Reserve could have placed such an order, and the order came from one of the Fed’s bullion banks, one of the entities “too big to fail.”


Bill Kaye of the Greater Asian Hedge Fund in Hong Kong and Dave Kranzler of Golden Returns Capital have filled in the details of how the manipulation worked. Being sophisticated investors of many years of experience, both Kaye and Kranzler understand that the financial press runs with the authorized story planted to serve the agenda that has been put into play.


Institutional investors who have bullion in their portfolio do not want the expense associated with storing it securely. Instead, they buy into Exchange Traded Funds (ETF) and hold their bullion in the form of a paper claim. The largest, the SPDR Gold Trust or GLD, trades on the New York Stock Exchange.

The trustee and custodian is a bankster, and only other banksters are able to turn investments into delivery of physical bullion. Only shares in the amount of 100,000 can be redeemed in gold.


The price of bullion is not set in the physical market where individuals take delivery of bullion purchases. It is set in the paper futures market where short selling can drive down the price even if the demand for physical possession is rising.

More at: http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/wordpress/ ]]> Economics Katweezel http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25109-Paul-Roberts-Gangster-America http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25007-True-Economics?goto=newpost Sun, 05 May 2013 00:57:26 GMT True Economics


People are more and more inclined, nowadays, to give priority to the economic dimension and it seems, at first sight, that they are right to do so. It is obvious that if you haven't got enough money to pay for food and lodging things can be very complicated. But, in reality, the economy is not everything, for it depends on factors of a higher order. You might say that the economic aspect is the dead aspect: it cannot move or do anything by itself; it decide to move it from here to there and, depending on whether the decision is inspired by wisdom or by folly, the results will be totally different. When the head that decides on a move is ill, it is the economy itself that is wrecked. And then you have discontent, strikes and revolutions.


It is a pity that human beings have let themselves become so deeply immersed in matter that they forget that it is not matter that is the most important but the factors that influence it. Suppose that you have an immense amount of money and weapons and you feel very strong and secure. The only trouble is that you are also very stupid and, when someone who is more intelligent than you comes along, he can wipe you out, because he has an element at his command that is superior to everything you have. Yes, intelligence often triumphs over material means.

Every occurence on the physical plane depends on phenomena that occur on a much higher plane, on the plane of thoughts and sentiments. I remember talking, one day, to somebody who held a very high position in the political sphere in France, and he said that capital was the moving power behind society. But i replied, 'No. Just think for a moment: what moves capital from one place to another? Ideas. It is ideas that take precedence; it is ideas that control and displace capital, that fashion the world.' But human beings look no further than outward appearances.


They see only the material aspects: capital, the lack or the abundance of raw materials, etc. They fail to see that all that is controlled and organized by human intelligence and will, which are spiritual elements.

They seem to think that these are two seperate worlds. As long as men fail to see the invisible element that influences and acts on the material dimension, whether for good or for evil, they will never understand reality. The truth is that nothing of an economic, technical or industrial nature can function all by itself.


When you want to describe the human body, you use a series of plates illustrating its different system: the skeleton, the circulatory system, the muscles, the nervous system, etc. None of these plates represents the whole human being, only one aspect of the whole, and people do not realize that there are yet other systems still unknown to established science. For example, no one ever mentions the auric system with its currents of light and colour, and yet it is the auric system that controls the nervous system, just as the nervous system controls the circulatory, respiratory and other systems. Science has not yet studied every dimension of human beings.


Let's take an example from the field of medicine. One of the major landmarks in medical science was the discovery of the endocrine glands which secrete hormones. Nowadays, in fact, people believe that virtually everything depends on these glands, but this is not the case, for the fact that these glands sometimes secrete too much or too little means that they themselves are subject to other factors. Just as the endocrine glands influence the overall health of the organism, they in turn are influenced by other, subtler factors originating in a person's thoughts, emotions, soul or spirit. The day will come when medical science will study this question. It will also study the question of how the sun afflects these glands.


By attaching prime importance to the economic dimension (raw materials, capital, commercial outlets, imports and exports and so on), human beings demonstrate that they have confined their attention to the three most material systems: the skeleton, the muscles and the blood. They have not got as far as the nervous system yet - not to mention the auric system! It is understandable that, when they focus all their energies on economic growth and on getting rich, it is to the detriment of certain rules, laws and virtues which correspond to the higher systems.

This is why political leaders, who are principally concerned with the economy, are leading the whole of humanity to a state of decadence. If you are determined to be stronger and richer than your neighbour you will be obliged to do things which are not always perfectly honest. It is inevitable.

Whilst opulence is on the increase, therefore, respect for the divine laws is diminishing, and it is this that will lead to disaster for humanity. I know that people cannot accept what I am saying because they cannot see it. They are blind to the fact that to succeed on the economic level one is obliged continually to commit dishonest, criminal acts. It is the same in politics and espionage: anything goes! The excuse is that it is for the sake of one's country. Yes, but what about the other countries? When men are led to destroy moral principles it is always because their economic interests are at stake, and when you give these interests priority, all your noblest qualities are wiped out and replaced by egoism, violence and deceit and the complete absence of scruples. The economic dimension of life is certainly indispensable, I have no argument with that; but it must be kept under control and made to obey other necessities; other, higher powers. Otherwise man's highest aspirations will be trampled underfoot for the sake of a few egoists who want to be rich.


It is time men began to think about this and to understand clearly that it is the Divine World that must be given priority, and that everything else must be at its service. The fact is that human beings have mistaken the means for the end. They know that there is always a goal to be aimed at, and that there are various means for reaching that goal. What they don't see is that they are using all the most glorious faculties and talents that Heaven has given them as means in the pursuit of a terribly mundane, inglorious goal. They are ready to use their noblest qualities in order to gratify their basest appetites! They even expect the Lord Himself to aid and abet their licentousness and their folly. And are they aware of all this? Not a bit of it! They never take the time to wonder what they are like or what they are looking for. No, it takes a spiritual Master to come and question them: 'Wait, my friend: look where you're going! Straight to Hell! And the means you are using? The Lord and His Angels, science, art and religion... Yes, you are using all these things to help you along the road to Hell!'


Material, economic life is the only thing that counts for most people and they are so ignorant and underdeveloped on the higher planes, that they are constantly anxious and ill without understanding the reason. Then, of course, they put the blame on others - the neighbours, society, the government and the Lord Himself. They don't understand that their problems come from a lack in themselves, that they haven't got the ability to see things clearly nor the strength and goodwill to remedy the situation. Oh, no; it is always other people who are to blame for not having given them this or that. The truth is that, even if they were given what they demand, nothing much would change because, when someone is too stupid and inwardly limited, he is incapable of taking advantage of what is given: instead of getting better, he gets worse.


Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov ]]> Economics Solve et Coagula http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/25007-True-Economics http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/24929-Bitcoin-hits-the-streets-of-Berlin-VIDEO?goto=newpost Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:09:59 GMT In Kreuzberg, Berlin, virtual currency Bitcoin has expanded off the internet to become a favoured medium of exchange in real shops and bars.
Joerg Platzer, the owner of bar Room 77 is helping to establish what he believes to be the world's first Bitcoin local economy.

]]> Economics DDutton http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/24929-Bitcoin-hits-the-streets-of-Berlin-VIDEO http://www.zenzoneforum.com/threads/24927-COMEX-Hurtling-Towards-Default?goto=newpost Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:26:45 GMT *COMEX Hurtling Towards Default People Will Be “Settled” With Dollars, No More Metal Will Be Delivered!* Comex Physical Drain Accelerates—With Over $7.8B In Gold Disappearing From All Depositories As the headline battle between paper sellers and physical buyers of gold escalates, something... COMEX Hurtling Towards Default
People Will Be “Settled” With Dollars, No More Metal Will Be Delivered!

Comex Physical Drain Accelerates—With Over $7.8B In Gold Disappearing From All Depositories

As the headline battle between paper sellers and physical buyers of gold escalates, something eerily strange is continuing behind the scenes.

As first reported here on April 9th, Comex gold inventories have been plummeting, demonstrating the highest levels of physical removal ever during a single quarter in Q1, 2013.

Most shocking however, is that Comex warehouse inventories are accelerating their downward plunge, with dropping inventories now spreading to the world’s largest fund depositories.

Read more at http://bullmarketthinking.com/comex-...-depositories/

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